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Figured id try and make a little money off this tonite since ill be watching. Here are the lines at my book-tell me who you like if you see someone you think has a really good chance of winning.

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Ultimate Fighting Championship 54 - August 20, 2005
8/20/2005 8:00 PM Randy Couture vs Mike Van Arsdale
201 Randy Couture -300
202 Mike Van Arsdale +250

8/20/2005 8:00 PM James Irvin vs Terry Martin
203 James Irvin -125
204 Terry Martin +105

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Chuck Liddell vs Jeremy Horn
205 Chuck Liddell -200
206 Jeremy Horn +175

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Matt Lindland vs Joe Deorkson
207 Matt Lindland -250
208 Joe Deorkson +210

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Diego Sanchez vs Brian Gassaway
209 Diego Sanchez -500
210 Brian Gassaway +400

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Frank Trigg vs Georges St Pierre
213 Frank Trigg +130
214 Georges St Pierre -150
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no Tim Sylvia vs. Tra Teligman?
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no Tim Sylvia vs. Tra Teligman?

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Why not? They're fighting tonight.
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Why not? They're fighting tonight.

Those are just the lines my book is putting up, I dont knowwhy.
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i would take st pierre and gumby but that's just me.
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horn is a good money bet...

Trigg may not be too bad of a bet either
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Why not? They're fighting tonight.
some places had lines up for the fight but most of them took them down. Tra didnt get his physicals done until Thursday. There were rumors going around that he might not fight. But he did pass everything and the fight is still on.

I didnt do so good the last time I bet. I put my money on the underdogs and I found out why they were the underdogs. lol

if i were to bet on one I would take Doerkson. Hes got some pretty good submission skills.
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some places had lines up for the fight but most of them took them down. Tra didnt get his physicals done until Thursday. There were rumors going around that he might not fight. But he did pass everything and the fight is still on.
Yeah, I called phil wednesday and reminded him that Tra needed it.. lol
Not sure what relevance it has, but Tra's been sleeping in a o2 tent so his red cell count was a little high.. i wonder if that's why they made him get checked out again.
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I have no idea what all those numbers mean, but my bet between Couture and the other guy would go to Randy couture.
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I'd change the numbers up a bit in favor of lindland taking Doerksen. Plus trig is pretty messy compared to Pierre, so I'd probably edit those numbers more in favor of the Frenchy.
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Figured id try and make a little money off this tonite since ill be watching. Here are the lines at my book-tell me who you like if you see someone you think has a really good chance of winning.

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Ultimate Fighting Championship 54 - August 20, 2005
8/20/2005 8:00 PM Randy Couture vs Mike Van Arsdale
201 Randy Couture -300
202 Mike Van Arsdale +250

8/20/2005 8:00 PM James Irvin vs Terry Martin
203 James Irvin -125
204 Terry Martin +105

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Chuck Liddell vs Jeremy Horn
205 Chuck Liddell -200
206 Jeremy Horn +175

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Matt Lindland vs Joe Deorkson
207 Matt Lindland -250
208 Joe Deorkson +210

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Diego Sanchez vs Brian Gassaway
209 Diego Sanchez -500
210 Brian Gassaway +400

8/20/2005 8:00 PM Frank Trigg vs Georges St Pierre
213 Frank Trigg +130
214 Georges St Pierre -150

My picks :

1. Arsdale
2. Irvin
3.Horn
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5. Sanchez
6.St. Pierre

I'll check back later to check my predictions.

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I just got off work, worked 9 to 2 and 6 to 11, I'm tired! I think we might still come over but I don't know. Too bad the fights are prolly over now.

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Anyone find out who won the Diego fight, or the Liddel fight? Or is it yet to come?
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Anyone find out who won the Diego fight, or the Liddel fight? Or is it yet to come?

Diego, and Chuck won there fights.

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Diego, and Chuck won there fights.

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Fuk yeah.. Thats all I care about. I couldn't get my satellite pay per view. My dogs chewed my damn phone line in half
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one of you smart mother fuckas need to post up the horn-liddell fight.

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one of you smart mother fuckas need to post up the horn-liddell fight.
oh hell yeah, let's have it!!

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its 140 mb. if anyone can host it, ill send it to them. i can post some of the other fights though
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its 140 mb. if anyone can host it, ill send it to them. i can post some of the other fights though
wish I had hosting!
if anyone can host it, please do!

I wanted to see this fight.

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wish I had hosting!
if anyone can host it, please do!

I wanted to see this fight.
It wasn't worth watching really. The last knockout of the night however was pretty damn funny.

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here is frank trigg vs georges st pierre

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It wasn't worth watching really. The last knockout of the night however was pretty damn funny.
any ground fighting or more dancing around?
what made it a boring fight?

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bout damn time....how many times has trigg given up his back to hughs in his last two fights and now st pierre?
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here is frank trigg vs georges st pierre

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I don't know, but that link didn't do anything. I clicked "upload" but then the page blinked, and didn't do anything. I guess you have to sign up for that particular service to use it?
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scroll down a little. then click FREE, it will take you to the download screen.
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scroll down a little. then click FREE, it will take you to the download screen.
thanks again for hosting the lil watching party jon and matt!
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anytime there's a ufc/mma fight that isn't on basic cable, i'm more than willing to chip in to watch.
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It wasn't worth watching really. The last knockout of the night however was pretty damn funny.
Was that the knee kick
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http://www.fightreport.net/gifs/liddell_horn_2.gif

here is one from the liddell-horn fight
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Yea, Tra def. should have stepped away and let the bell ring, not stepped into that kick!

My mom called and said she couldn't tell if he was moving or not and wanted to know what they showed on TV. Tra's wife was in the backround screaming.

LOL. That fool needs to train a lil harder for his next one.
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was anyone able to host the vid of liddell-horn?

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That was the worst fight of the night.

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Either Chucky was afraid to go to the ground or he was trying to embarrass Horn. He knocked Horn down in round 1 and 2 and let Horn get back up. The last knockdown in round 3 Horn gave up. He was knocked down, Chuck was going to let him get back up and Horn told BJM that he couldn't fight anymore. It was just dull compared to the other cards. It was nothing more than a boxing match.

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Either Chucky was afraid to go to the ground or he was trying to embarrass Horn. He knocked Horn down in round 1 and 2 and let Horn get back up. The last knockdown in round 3 Horn gave up. He was knocked down, Chuck was going to let him get back up and Horn told BJM that he couldn't fight anymore. It was just dull compared to the other cards.
That sucks. I was excited about that matchup. Can anyone post the Diego fight?
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Either Chucky was afraid to go to the ground or he was trying to embarrass Horn. He knocked Horn down in round 1 and 2 and let Horn get back up. The last knockdown in round 3 Horn gave up. He was knocked down, Chuck was going to let him get back up and Horn told BJM that he couldn't fight anymore. It was just dull compared to the other cards. It was nothing more than a boxing match.
Chuck was afraid to go to the ground with Horn. Chuck's not stupid.
Horn told John McCarthy that he couldn't see. And McCarthy stopped the fight.
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Chuck was afraid to go to the ground with Horn. Chuck's not stupid.
I'm not sure that's the case. At least the first knockdown Chucky knocked Horn for a loop. Chuck could've given Horn a flurry of punches and elbows to the face and finished it up as he has done in the past... or at least administered much more damage. Horn had nothing when he was knocked to the ground. Look how long it took Horn to get to his feet after Chuck let him up.

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No doubt Chuck was afraid to go to the ground with Horn. The last thing he wanted was to get caught on the ground trying to ground and pound, and end up in Horn's world.

Horn complained of double vision after the third round, and after taking a few more shots to the eyes, he stopped the fight himself, as to not get permanently injured. He's a true fighter, and I'm sure he would have loved nothing more than to go another round and a half. But he obviously thought the vision was a serious enough problem.

Chuck gave him everything he could, and still couldn't knock him out. Don't get me wrong, he stunned him a few times, but if you watch the fight again, you'll notice that anytime Horn went to the ground, he covers with one hand, and tries to pull Chuck's leg in for a sweep of some sort. He was always working on the ground, trying to make Chuck come to his world.

It was a great fight and I can't wait to see the rematch. Since they are now 1 and 1
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That was the worst fight of the night.

I'll never understand the casual fight fan....

If they end up on the ground in a submission fight, it's fucking boring. If they stand up the whole time, and fight it out, it's boring. And if it's over in 20 seconds, you feel robbed.

In other words if someone doesn't get knocked out or pounded into the mat, in the second or third round, it's a worthless fight.

Horn-Lidell and Arsdale-Couture were two of the best fights in a long time. Excellently matched fighters, going the distance.
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I'll never understand the casual fight fan....

If they end up on the ground in a submission fight, it's fucking boring. If they stand up the whole time, and fight it out, it's boring. And if it's over in 20 seconds, you feel robbed.

In other words if someone doesn't get knocked out or pounded into the mat, in the second or third round, it's a worthless fight.

Horn-Lidell and Arsdale-Couture were two of the best fights in a long time. Excellently matched fighters, going the distance.

Very well put!

Horn is a true bad ass, what most the people dont know is that he fights at 185. He stepped up to fight Chuck, I'm sure after this fight he will drop back down and do very well. Not to take anything away from Chuck, he is the man right now but I think Rampage will be in the UFC soon and that is when things will change.
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I'll never understand the casual fight fan....

If they end up on the ground in a submission fight, it's fucking boring. If they stand up the whole time, and fight it out, it's boring. And if it's over in 20 seconds, you feel robbed.

In other words if someone doesn't get knocked out or pounded into the mat, in the second or third round, it's a worthless fight.

Horn-Lidell and Arsdale-Couture were two of the best fights in a long time. Excellently matched fighters, going the distance.
I couldn't agree more on both of your statements. The entire event was a good show.
I can't wait for Horn to get his rematch with Liddell. Also, I can't wait for Randy to get his opportunity to seize the title again.
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That sucks. I was excited about that matchup. Can anyone post the Diego fight?
Or any of the others?
i'll post diego and randy's fights in a little bit
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I agree that Chuck had no plans of intentionally going to the ground with Horn. Why would he?

But it also seemed obvious to me that he was putting a serious whipping on Horn, and could have easily finished him several times. A few more punches once he was dazed and down would have ended the fight. In fact, the first time Horn really went down and Chuck did follow up a little, it sure did look to me like Horn was tapping. But Chuck backed off and let him up, and he kept doing that. I think he really wanted that one knee-buckling KO, and he couldn't quite get it. I'll hand it to Horn for taking the beating he did and still walking away at the end. I think a rematch will have similar results, if Chuck doesn't succeed in landing a finisher like he was looking for this time.

Oh, and the Silvia fight was a massacre. That dude looks extremely dominant standing up.
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I'll never understand the casual fight fan....

If they end up on the ground in a submission fight, it's fucking boring. If they stand up the whole time, and fight it out, it's boring. And if it's over in 20 seconds, you feel robbed.

In other words if someone doesn't get knocked out or pounded into the mat, in the second or third round, it's a worthless fight.

Horn-Lidell and Arsdale-Couture were two of the best fights in a long time. Excellently matched fighters, going the distance.

I'll never understand those who deem themselves UFC experts by trying to justify their observations with blitherings of absolute nonsense...
Going the distance? Did you actually watch the fight? Did you miss the part where Chuck got off of Horn, backed away and motioned for Horn to get back up after he knocked him for a loop in the first round? How many times have you ever seen that in a fight especially when defending the title? You can't be that stupid.
Chuck could've ended that fight in the first round. I guess in your absolute UFC expertise the entire croud who was booing the match were also "casual fight fans.."
The fact of the matter is that was the worst fight of the night and was nothing more than a boxing match with absolutely no technicality whatsoever. All fights other than the main event were far better displays.
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