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Thumbs down Say It Ain't So, Raffy...

who woulda thought ?

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NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Rafael Palmeiro, who last month became the fourth member of baseball's 3,000-hit, 500-home run club, tested positive for steroids, SI.com's Tom Verducci has confirmed.

The penalty for a first offense under baseball's drug-testing plan is a 10-day suspension.

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Well, next he's going to go to jail . . . he just made a case for perjury I think.

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wow jose was right he said rafy was on the roids

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Well, we don't know what the substance was, but its definately not looking good. I would be more concerned about lying to a grand jury at this point if it is indeed roids...just goes to show you

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Well, we don't know what the substance was, but its definately not looking good. I would be more concerned about lying to a grand jury at this point if it is indeed roids...just goes to show you
he could always use the argument that he was not juicing at the time of the hearing. i do not think what he said back then has any bearing on him juicing now. this really sucks. this very well may be the backbreaker on him getting into the HOF. i hope somehow, someway it was a false positive. we'll see...
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he could always use the argument that he was not juicing at the time of the hearing. i do not think what he said back then has any bearing on him juicing now. this really sucks. this very well may be the backbreaker on him getting into the HOF. i hope somehow, someway it was a false positive. we'll see...
True, I thought the same thing, but lets be honest here, why would you start now after knowing the consequences of your actions though? I guess all i'm saying is that in the eyes of the public and the HOF, there is now doubt in everyone's minds regardless and who knows, he may not get inducted now to the HOF. It's just plain sad ...I don't guess they will make public what substance this was will they?

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It's enough to make me want to buy Canseco's book! Maybe he isn't bullshittin' us after all. Raffy doesn't even fit the profile for a 'roid user, but who does?

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I don't guess they will make public what substance this was will they?
i am not sure. but if he contests this and doctors and labs get involved, he will want the public to know what he got popped for, as long as it isn't steroids...
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This is an exerpt from the following link ...

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In remarks prepared for a conference call Monday, Palmeiro said he had accepted his punishment and could not explain how the steroids got into his body.

``I have never intentionally used steroids. Never. Ever. Period,'' he said. ``Ultimately, although I never intentionally put a banned substance into my body, the independent arbitrator ruled that I had to be suspended under the terms of the program.''

I think its pretty obvious he is backpedalling now.

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This is an exerpt from the following link ...

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In remarks prepared for a conference call Monday, Palmeiro said he had accepted his punishment and could not explain how the steroids got into his body.

``I have never intentionally used steroids. Never. Ever. Period,'' he said. ``Ultimately, although I never intentionally put a banned substance into my body, the independent arbitrator ruled that I had to be suspended under the terms of the program.''

I think its pretty obvious he is backpedalling now.
yep. dammit. this sucks. he was by far the baseball player i admired and respected most. now that is gone...
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Palmeiro? A 10 day ban for a "first" offense is a croc. That is nothing but a slap on the wrist. Nice job in testifying to the Grand Jury.

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anybody find humor in the fact that the first big name that gets popped just happens to be on a terrible team? think they would be calling him out if they were contenders? anyone have pictures of his "Bill Clinton" hand when he was lying to Congress?
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anybody find humor in the fact that the first big name that gets popped just happens to be on a terrible team? think they would be calling him out if they were contenders? anyone have pictures of his "Bill Clinton" hand when he was lying to Congress?
You apparently don't watch baseball.
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like i've said before, and i'll say it again...

99.99% of Professional Athletes have used, or are using some sort of performance enhancing drugs. They have to.
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like i've said before, and i'll say it again...

99.99% of Professional Athletes have used, or are using some sort of performance enhancing drugs. They have to.
I believe that!
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for those of you that are old enough to remember, the '89-93 Rangers were PUMPED! Pudge, Sierra, Gonzalez, Julio Franco, Sammy Sosa (briefly), and now Raffy. Canseco was there, too. You really gotta wonder.

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You apparently don't watch baseball.

I don't see them making much progress on the 8.5 games in the East, or the 8 in the wild card.
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I don't see them making much progress on the 8.5 games in the East, or the 8 in the wild card.
I still wouldn't call them a terrible team.
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It was more exciting when they were juiced up anyway.

It is disheartening when a 'good' guy like raffy does it. Doesn't fit the profile or the stature of a roids user.

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It was more exciting when they were juiced up anyway.

It is disheartening when a 'good' guy like raffy does it. Doesn't fit the profile or the stature of a roids user.

So people that use steroids are complete assholes, and can't be good hearted, sociable, liked by people, or even nice?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

that's funny right there
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So people that use steroids are complete assholes, and can't be good hearted, sociable, liked by people, or even nice?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Pretty much No, not at all, but he serious doesn't have the physical stature of a roids user. I can name a ton of guys that are straight up assholes that have never hit the needle. He just seems pretty even-tempered.

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who woulda thought ?

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NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Rafael Palmeiro, who last month became the fourth member of baseball's 3,000-hit, 500-home run club, tested positive for steroids, SI.com's Tom Verducci has confirmed.

The penalty for a first offense under baseball's drug-testing plan is a 10-day suspension.

Dissapointed, but come on, what the heck is that 10 day suspension? If I got caught using an illegal substance, I'd be in the slammer.

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I still wouldn't call them a terrible team.

only terrible with regard to talent:result ratio
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The best part is that he says he didn't knowingly take steriods, but the drug that he tested positive for was Winstrol which has to be injected...kinda hard to say you didn't know this was being injected into your system Perhaps you can take it in pill form? Anyhow, its not like the cream etc.

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The best part is that he says he didn't knowingly take steriods, but the drug that he tested positive for was Winstrol which has to be injected...kinda hard to say you didn't know this was being injected into your system Perhaps you can take it in pill form? Anyhow, its not like the cream etc.
Actually winstrol can be injected or taken orally.

He could have just been given a bunch of "suplements" to take, and not known what they are. YEAH RIGHT... Or he told someone, just dont' tell me they are steroids, and I will actually not know they are...

Either way, he had to have either injested the pills, or injected intramuscularly... Winstrol didn't magically enter his system
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Dissapointed, but come on, what the heck is that 10 day suspension? If I got caught using an illegal substance, I'd be in the slammer.

Not true. It is not illegal to test positive for a controled substance. It's only illegal to be caught in possession or to distribute it.

Unless of course you are on probation, etc...
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