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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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Ok here is the deal i went and picked up a 02 gsxr 750 with a 04 750 motor. I was told it needed a cam chain tensioner well come to find out it is something inside the head or engine. The guy i bought it from gave me a bill of sale saying only thing wrong is cam chain tensioner and thats all no motor problems or anything bike never was ridden went right to the shop. I guess my question is what can i do about this ??? i have the bill of sale signed and everything my father said i could take him to civil court about this is it true ??

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you can try....but you would be wasting your time and money......might as well chuck it up as a loss if the guy wont make it right and just fix it.

its your word against his. he'll say you rode it or whatever and you can deny it. its a pissin match so unless your hung like a donkey its a waste of time

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post #3 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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even since he signed the bill of sale saying no motor problems for sure man this makes it hard on all the honest people out here trying to sale good stuff

00 camaro ls1 texas speed 5.3 heads fully worked
longtubes slp lid 373 gears just a small cam built a4 trans with cooler lowered zr1 3.15 nittos
JUST A LITTLE SLOW LS1 CAR
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post #4 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:20 PM
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it is true you can. unless he didn't sign the bill of sale. like rusty said then it would be your word vs. his. so then it wouldn't be worth it.how do you know something in the head or motor?
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post #5 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
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if everyone want's to fuck with him and ask him why is he saleing the engine he didn't put in the bike he sold i would love it since he screwed me over with no damn lube number is 469 789 4047

00 camaro ls1 texas speed 5.3 heads fully worked
longtubes slp lid 373 gears just a small cam built a4 trans with cooler lowered zr1 3.15 nittos
JUST A LITTLE SLOW LS1 CAR
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post #6 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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It's in the shop now and they are dropping the engine tomorrow to tear down the head and the motor for sure to know what it is sad part is i asked the guy if it is a motor do you mind paying 500 to help pay for a used motor installed and he said no sorry can't i just wanted to reach threw the phone and smack the shit out of him lol

00 camaro ls1 texas speed 5.3 heads fully worked
longtubes slp lid 373 gears just a small cam built a4 trans with cooler lowered zr1 3.15 nittos
JUST A LITTLE SLOW LS1 CAR
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post #7 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:24 PM
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what does the bike sound like? i might can help you out. no point in getting all bent out of shape. its sad but thats the world we live in. you can always try and resale it.
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get on ebay and look for a used motor for it. i found one for my 1999 r6 one time for 450 motor and freight. ran better then the one i took out. and it was a 2000 motor
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yeah true but i would loose my ass man bad. Bike has like a knock noise to it i took the plastics off of it and my guys listened to it from the bottom of the engine to the top also we only heard the noise at the top right side of the engine everything else seemed good no noise at bottom or middle of engine

00 camaro ls1 texas speed 5.3 heads fully worked
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oh man you also have no idea how pissed i was but i have stayed pretty calm about it all never got upset and yelled or anything at the guy just asked for him to help

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i bet it isnt that bad.
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Wait, you heard a knock before you bought it?
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post #13 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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yes and i called the shop he took it to to have it diaged and the tech said it was a cam chain tensioner he promised not unless the guy rode it after he diaged it

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longtubes slp lid 373 gears just a small cam built a4 trans with cooler lowered zr1 3.15 nittos
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Man i sure hope it isn't that bad

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ebay best way to go for parts. just let them look at it and then determine if you want them to fix it or not.
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oh yeah i am and i am keeping my fingers crossed on what it is lol thanks for eveyones input on this

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pm me what it was. i bet it is simple. i am intreged though
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damn dude, lemme guess. you bought that black stretched one on DFW craigslist???? either way bummer. just drop in the dough to make it right and ride it is your best bet as stated above, just worry about getting it in your name first. good luck

Zack at Nortex has had a gazillion gixxers apart and may even have the engine parts layin around his shop you need. i would get it to him for a honest opinion and repair. 469-479-1919 tell em damon sent ya.

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why wouldn't i be able to get it in my name ???

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do you have the title with a transfer sheet to get it signed into your name or just a bill of sale??

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transfer sheet and title

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longtubes slp lid 373 gears just a small cam built a4 trans with cooler lowered zr1 3.15 nittos
JUST A LITTLE SLOW LS1 CAR
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thanks glasshouse i will give him a ring i will cut my ties with it and just fix it and ride it man thanks for your input

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I'm not 100% sure what's going on here. A little punctuation goes a long way. It's the difference between “helping your Uncle Jack, off his horse.” and “helping your uncle jack off his horse.”

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if everyone want's to fuck with him and ask him why is he saleing the engine he didn't put in the bike he sold i would love it since he screwed me over with no damn lube number is 469 789 4047
From what I've read it sounds like you bought a half-assed old project from someone else and didn't know what you were getting into. The only person that screwed you IS YOU. When a bike needs a cam-chain tensioner it makes some god-awful noises. Why wouldn't you get that checked out by a mechanic you trust prior to purchase?


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yeah true but i would loose my ass man bad. Bike has like a knock noise to it i took the plastics off of it and my guys listened to it from the bottom of the engine to the top also we only heard the noise at the top right side of the engine everything else seemed good no noise at bottom or middle of engine
That's where the noise from cam-chain tensioners come from. How do you know the shop it's at right now isn't screwing you? Instead of selling you a $75 APE tensioner they could be charging you for an unnecessary $750 cyl head "repair."

The seller told you there was a problem up front, you likely heard the problem, and his mechanic told you there was a problem. Now you expect the seller who sold you an old project bike with problems he told you about to help you fix it???

I'm no lawyer, but I wouldn't expect much from a private seller offering no warranty for a bike with problems he told you about up front. Look at it from his perspective. A mechanic told him it needed XYZ, he told you it needed XYZ, you acknowledged it had problem XYZ, you both signed a piece of paper saying so, and you bought the bike. Why would he have any responsibility to help you fix the bike?


Either way, buy the tensioner, install it (outside of removing the fairings the tensioner is two-bolts IIRC) and see what that gets you. It's a helluvalot cheaper to do that than it is to pay a shop to drop the motor, check it out, and re-install it.

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