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Take a swag on coupe times!

Here's my "best" time slip history. From when I first got the car to now.

Stock, slipping clutch and street tires. 9.3 @ 80mph 2.24 60ft.

Stock, new clutch and 275 drag radials 8.9 @ 80mph 2.0 60ft

Electric fans, pulleys, and 225 street tires 9.01 @ 77. Super hot humid day.

Ive since added 3.73s and aluminum drive shaft. And put some 245/50s out back.

I went to the track last week on bald 225s. I ran a 9.6 at 77 spinning across the stripe in 3rd. .

What should my car run with good traction?

8.7? Slower or faster?

13.6? Idk never ran in 1/4 but thinking of going friday.

Car runs good! But it's still slow.

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9.01 @ 77 = 14.14 @ 95.48

With traction, 13.90's if you know how to drive.

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Here's my "best" time slip history. From when I first got the car to now.

Stock, slipping clutch and street tires. 9.3 @ 80mph 2.24 60ft.

Stock, new clutch and 275 drag radials 8.9 @ 80mph 2.0 60ft

Electric fans, pulleys, and 225 street tires 9.01 @ 77. Super hot humid day.

Ive since added 3.73s and aluminum drive shaft. And put some 245/50s out back.

I went to the track last week on bald 225s. I ran a 9.6 at 77 spinning across the stripe in 3rd. .

What should my car run with good traction?

8.7? Slower or faster?

13.6? Idk never ran in 1/4 but thinking of going friday.

Car runs good! But it's still slow.
That car couldnt spin across the strip if you started on top of it, much less 3rd gear.

Why do you worry about what it runs so much when you can't get the thing fixed properly in the first place? It seems like every week you hae a new thread in the garage about something else that's fucked up on it.
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That car couldnt spin across the strip if you started on top of it, much less 3rd gear.

Why do you worry about what it runs so much when you can't get the thing fixed properly in the first place? It seems like every week you hae a new thread in the garage about something else that's fucked up on it.
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I don't car if it runs 10.5's in the 1/8 , at least your trying and having fun . BUT , you should get the bugs worked out before you even think about track times . As for your traction , you can't run thru the water box on crap radials and exspect any traction . Spin them over after you drive around the water and leave of idle . Thats the best you can hope for until you get a sticky tire .

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I don't car if it runs 10.5's in the 1/8 , at least your trying and having fun . BUT , you should get the bugs worked out before you even think about track times . As for your traction , you can't run thru the water box on crap radials and exspect any traction . Spin them over after you drive around the water and leave of idle . Thats the best you can hope for until you get a sticky tire .
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You just need drag radials.... And you wouldn't even need any suspension yet. I would probably just do some subframes and drag radials for now.
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Maybe it was raining or something?

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That car couldnt spin across the strip if you started on top of it, much less 3rd gear.

Why do you worry about what it runs so much when you can't get the thing fixed properly in the first place? It seems like every week you hae a new thread in the garage about something else that's fucked up on it.
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It was spinning.

What problems do I need to adress now? I fixed everything.

No more vibration after new driveshaft.

I don't drive through the water box WTF??

Oh and btw. It was cold out. I was feathering the throttle and getting completely out of it and goof back in. Still spinning.

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9.01 @ 77 = 14.14 @ 95.48

With traction, 13.90's if you know how to drive.
That 9.01 was with 2.73s

I now have 3.73

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It was spinning.

Oh and btw. It was cold out. I was feathering the throttle and getting completely out of it and goof back in. Still spinning.
In third?
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I promise it wasn't spinning "across the stripe in 3rd" like you say - that thing couldn't drag a sick whore out of bed, much less spin @ 70MPH.

Also, WTF are you doing dicking around at a dragstrip - that thing goes 150+, you should be working with the guiness book of world records and trying to get the fastest bucket of bolts record!
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In third?
Get going at 30 or so and put in fifth and floor it. Make sure it was not your clutch slipping. Yes, I know it is fairly new. Just double check. I understand you spinning on the low end, but at the top of the track seems unlikely with your power level unless there was fluid on the track.

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I promise it wasn't spinning "across the stripe in 3rd" like you say - that thing couldn't drag a sick whore out of bed, much less spin @ 70MPH.

Also, WTF are you doing dicking around at a dragstrip - that thing goes 150+, you should be working with the guiness book of world records and trying to get the fastest bucket of bolts record!
It was spinning in third, what else can I say?

On those 225s if I were to floor it at 3500ish rpm in third it would break loose.

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ive got h/c/i on mine and the only way i can spin in 3rd would be to put it in neutral, tow it up to about 190mph place trans into 3rd and step off the clutch.

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It was spinning in third, what else can I say?

On those 225s if I were to floor it at 3500ish rpm in third it would break loose.
A 230 RWHP car does NOT spin at 70MPH, Not unless it's going through some sort of BP oil spill.

EDIT - you need to make up your mind if you are saying it was spinning going through the lights or at 3500RPM in 3rd. You can only do one or the other - and regardless of which one you chose to tell stories about, it wasn't spinning.
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Get going at 30 or so and put in fifth and floor it. Make sure it was not your clutch slipping. Yes, I know it is fairly new. Just double check. I understand you spinning on the low end, but at the top of the track seems unlikely with your power level unless there was fluid on the track.
Was cold and dewy, plus bald tires on a Friday night.

Clutch is good I was in it last night and it held well.

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Was cold and dewy, plus bald tires on a Friday night.

Clutch is good I was in it last night and it held well.
Well since it was on a friday night, they had to spin in 3rd.
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A 230 RWHP car does NOT spin at 70MPH, Not unless it's going through some sort of BP oil spill.
I'm telling you those tires are shitty.

It doesnt do it with the newer tires I have on it now

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Was cold and dewy, plus bald tires on a Friday night.

Clutch is good I was in it last night and it held well.
Did you have your jumper cables in the trunk?
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Well since it was on a friday night, they had to spin in 3rd.
Very little track prep plus dirty street cars on the track.

Make sense now?

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It was spinning in third, what else can I say?

On those 225s if I were to floor it at 3500ish rpm in third it would break loose.
Please video this.
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Did you have your jumper cables in the trunk?
Car cover and a bag of ice.

It was the ice.

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Please video this.
I don't have those tires anymore. But I'll see what the 245s do.

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From as low as 2500 in second it will go sideways in second with 245/60

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I don't think it will in 3rd anymore. Tires are taller then before.

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I don't think it will in 3rd anymore. Tires are taller then before.
How much taller?
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How much taller?
225/50 to a 245/50

1-2inches?

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1-2inches?
~0.5"
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Oh, I was just guessing.

They look quite a bit taller, maybe it's because they have tread!

Those old tires were shitty. I couldn't catch grip to save my ass. Forget powershifting 2-3. Would not work. These newer tires are feeling pretty good so far. Havent got to get on it yet with all the rain.

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I ran a 8.4 on some 245s and no spinning in 3rd. Forgot what brand tires they are though.

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225/50 to a 245/50

1-2inches?
That is the same height tire. The 225/245 is the width
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was your car doing a one wheel peel thats about the only way your car would spin all the way down the track

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dont bother going to the track until you buy good tires like m/t e/t streets bias ply or radial. perferably the 1st. subframes and upper and lower control arms and you will have way more fun and cut way better times. just my thoughts

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Here's my "best" time slip history. From when I first got the car to now.

Stock, slipping clutch and street tires. 9.3 @ 80mph 2.24 60ft.

Stock, new clutch and 275 drag radials 8.9 @ 80mph 2.0 60ft

Electric fans, pulleys, and 225 street tires 9.01 @ 77. Super hot humid day.

Ive since added 3.73s and aluminum drive shaft. And put some 245/50s out back.

I went to the track last week on bald 225s. I ran a 9.6 at 77 spinning across the stripe in 3rd. .

What should my car run with good traction?

8.7? Slower or faster?

13.6? Idk never ran in 1/4 but thinking of going friday.

Car runs good! But it's still slow.

seems like your best time was on drag radials

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You just need drag radials.... And you wouldn't even need any suspension yet. I would probably just do some subframes and drag radials for now.
And dont listen to this dude......if you want to get out the hole then invest in suspension ALSO.

And if that car is breaking loose in 2nd at 2500 with GOOD tires then yes.......your transmission is on "barrowed" time (I LOL'd at that) Quit dumping the clutch and it wont do that

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seems like your best time was on drag radials



And dont listen to this dude......if you want to get out the hole then invest in suspension ALSO.

And if that car is breaking loose in 2nd at 2500 with GOOD tires then yes.......your transmission is on "barrowed" time (I LOL'd at that) Quit dumping the clutch and it wont do that
His transmission is fine, just don't power shift third too hard.

Remove the front sway bar, throw some drag radials on it and be done.

The only suspension I would even remotely suggest is a pair of good lower control arms
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That is the same height tire. The 225/245 is the width
You're right on the width, but wrong on the height being the same.

Example: 225/50-16.....The first number is the width in millimeters. So 225 mm. The second number is the aspect ratio of the width. That means the sidewall is 50% of the 225 millimeters. Then obviously the last number is the wheel diameter.

So, a 225/50-16" tire is roughly 24.85" in diameter, while the 245/50-16" is roughly 25.64". The sidewall size is about .4" taller on the 245 versus the 225. Also, the circumference is roughly 2.5" more on the 245 versus the 225.

Just a little FYI for you, since you were trying to make Mike look like a dumbass.

Mike, my car, at the summer cruise when I met you, ran [email protected], with 10* of timing, on 17" street radial tires with who knows how much air in them, and ALL of the junk in the back of the car. I would imagine your car has to weigh a couple hundred pounds less than mine, but my car has more done to it as far as engine, heads, cam, intake, etc. My car has 3.55's though, versus your 3.73's.

I didn't make enough passes that night to find the sweet spot off the line. I think the best 60ft time I got out of it was 2.16 or so. It would either bog, BAD, or spin, BAD.

Don't know if any of that helps, but I just thought I would post my experience to give you something to compare to. And to point out that Mr. Smartass above wasn't as smart as he thought he was.

-Aaron

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post #46 of 48 (permalink) Old 11-06-2010, 11:19 AM
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If you dumbasses think a "stock" 5.0 won't hook with just a MT drag radial then you you need to go to the track more and quit reading the Internet so much... On a budget, which the guy definately seems to be on, the best place to spend money first is on tires.

Crash, thanks for the lesson on tires I thought that was just the height, but that does make sense.
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as far as the spinning in third, I still don't believe it. My car with the stick and 3.73's put 655 to the ground It would hold the tires in 3rd to about 75 or 80mph before it would blow the radials out on the street if they were cold. So I doubt your mostly stock motor has enough nuts to spin in 3rd through the traps as others stated above. Just my 2 cents.

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Not trying to be an ass here at all, but it's time for a reality check for the OP.

My bucket runs low 8s n/a and I cut a weak 1.79 - 1.81 60 ft's on M/T DOTs. I have 4.56 gears and a 10" 3,800 stall along with your typical bolt ons. And on a set of cheap ass set of Riken Raptor street tires, I cannot spin the tires in 3rd gear. And I can't kick it down at 3,500 rpm and spin the tires, unless (MAYBE) I'm driving on wet black top. You're not spinning all the way down the race track with a stockish Fox body. The reason you get so much flack is because of the somewhat exaggerated claims you make about your car. Thinking it'll do a 160-170 mph, spinning down the track, etc... At the end of the day all that matters is that you like your car and you have a good time at the track. It doesn't matter what it runs to anybody but you, so there is no need to make embellishments about the car. If I hadn't driven my fare share of stock/mild modded Fox bodies, I wouldn't be giving you a hard time. They are slow, just like every other stock late model Mustang prior to 2011.

Now in regards to guessing on your gains with the new gears. It's possible you could see .2 - .3 tenths improvement with decent track prep and making clean shifts. I'll give you a little tip. Welded subframe connectors and Hotchkis LCAs w/ poly bushings made an appreciable difference in my short times. Invest in some suspension parts, you won't regret it.

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