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pics of the carnage....

well heres a few pics of what USE to be a coupe from last nights cruise...
should be back with ANOTHER coupe real real soon with the same motor combo since none of it got hurt except for a bent header tube...
thanks to the txr crew on getting the car on the trailer... getting it off was a whole lot easier with a big tree and a chain lol!!! See yall guys at the next cruise
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Looks like the car rejected the transplant. Sorry to see that happen.

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What's the story, I wasn't there?
the car just got loose real quick on the big end and gave the wall a bigo kiss..
i have a video, but its kinda crappy..

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Way better pics than my crappy cell phone ones.
I'm glad the amberlamps wasn't needed, it looked REALLY bad from the starting line.
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Way better pics than my crappy cell phone ones.
I'm glad the amberlamps wasn't needed, it looked REALLY bad from the starting line.
Yeah good thing for the safety equipment,, though i think we're gonna run the cage to the front frame rails on the next car, i cant believe how it crumbled the front and roof like a beer can, but the car traps around 114mph so i guess it made it pretty easy to do

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Man fuck bro. That sucks, Hope you are ok & its just a car. As long as your alive & breathing. Its a car. It can be replaced


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Glad ya'll are alright, me and Brooks were watching from the line, the car was swaying all over, we both figured you would have let off half way with how loose the car was.

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Damn!! Hate to see this!!!!
Glad you walked away and are here to post these. Car looks bad. Hopefully you can salvage alot.
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well heres a few pics of what USE to be a coupe from last nights cruise...
should be back with ANOTHER coupe real real soon with the same motor combo since none of it got hurt except for a bent header tube...
thanks to the txr crew on getting the car on the trailer... getting it off was a whole lot easier with a big tree and a chain lol!!! See yall guys at the next cruise
oh fuck!...homie we talked at the fence at the end of the track. Your car runs damn good.
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Before you get the motor in the new car bring it to me so I can modify the rear tubs/tq boxes and put the cage in it.
The car crumpled as bad as it did because it was wrecked before in that same corner.

Was the track that bad last night?
The car was driving good and straight after I aligned it.
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Well guys thanks for all of your concern and comments... The plan now is to have the "NEW" car done in hopefully a month or so,, these types of mishaps comes with racing and its always bad to hear when it does happen... That being said, we found a roller with a 10 point cage in it already in it and i'll prolly post up pics on the new resurection lol... Hey Sam how bout we go ahead and do that cam swap since the motor is already out haha!!! That way it can make that POWA lol!!!

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Glad ya'll are alright, me and Brooks were watching from the line, the car was swaying all over, we both figured you would have let off half way with how loose the car was.
This.

That run was doomed from 200', if not sooner.

Some food for thought, the car appears to have a 28X10.5 on a 8" wheel. If that is true, I'd be looking for some 10" wheels, "big" slicks are no bueno on a narrow wheel and they damn sure didn't help the swaying that car was doing for 3/4 of the track.

For "only" 114MPH when it hit the wall, I'd tend to believe that car was wrecked before, or the cage wasn't very good in the first place. Regardless, glad to see you are ok and can come back to race another day.

Edit - I see there is no cage, or at least no front bars...
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It had some what of a cage installed, a bolt in one.

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This.

That run was doomed from 200', if not sooner.

Some food for thought, the car appears to have a 28X10.5 on a 8" wheel. If that is true, I'd be looking for some 10" wheels, "big" slicks are no bueno on a narrow wheel and they damn sure didn't help the swaying that car was doing for 3/4 of the track.

For "only" 114MPH when it hit the wall, I'd tend to believe that car was wrecked before, or the cage wasn't very good in the first place. Regardless, glad to see you are ok and can come back to race another day.

Edit - I see there is no cage, or at least no front bars...
the rims are 8" with a 28 10.5 slick, but ive never had a problem with the car being set up like that,,, the two passes i made before when i ran the s-10 were clean runs (60 fts are normally 1.33, that night,1.44s) though i think the weather and track conditions were not exactly the best the car maybe hit a bad spot on the track and it was game over...

And yeah the car had just a 6 point cage in it that was bolted in first, then welded in.. it may have not been the best but that night i can tell you it helped some because the door bar bent some saving it from being worse even though its fixin to head to the scrap yard lol

Anyways thanks for the concern brotha and ima continue to come to your events for some more good times!!!!!

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the rims are 8" with a 28 10.5 slick, but ive never had a problem with the car being set up like that,,, the two passes i made before when i ran the s-10 were clean runs (60 fts are normally 1.33, that night,1.44s) though i think the weather and track conditions were not exactly the best the car maybe hit a bad spot on the track and it was game over...

And yeah the car had just a 6 point cage in it that was bolted in first, then welded in.. it may have not been the best but that night i can tell you it helped some because the door bar bent some saving it from being worse even though its fixin to head to the scrap yard lol

Anyways thanks for the concern brotha and ima continue to come to your events for some more good times!!!!!
Don't take it the wrong way - but I almost put your very quote in my previous post before you even said it "Never had a problem". Those are famous last words. I know, there are hundreds of cars with 10.5's on 8" wheels - I see them every week, I've even done it - ONCE. I PROMISE if you change to a 10.5" wheel, your car will handle a LOT better. The swaying will be nearly non-existant. The swaying is what started your problems on that pass - like I mentioned, it started about 200'. Possibly induced by some slight spinning off the line, who knows.

FWIW, I personally walked down the track - it was dry as a bone.

Edit, and of course, I hope to see you at the other events as well..
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Don't take it the wrong way - but I almost put your very quote in my previous post before you even said it "Never had a problem". Those are famous last words. I know, there are hundreds of cars with 10.5's on 8" wheels - I see them every week, I've even done it - ONCE. I PROMISE if you change to a 10.5" wheel, your car will handle a LOT better. The swaying will be nearly non-existant. The swaying is what started your problems on that pass - like I mentioned, it started about 200'. Possibly induced by some slight spinning off the line, who knows.

FWIW, I personally walked down the track - it was dry as a bone.

Edit, and of course, I hope to see you at the other events as well..
Lol yeah i think some 15x10 or 12s (to stretch the tire) bogarts will be nice!
That will be on the "to do" list,,, today we're picking up the new roller

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That will be on the "to do" list,,, today we're picking up the new roller
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wow thats crazy seeing that roof bend up like that! i bet your sore from all that

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Dammm bro what happen....I will PM you my new number to get details...sucks bro but glad you are ok!!
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This.

That run was doomed from 200', if not sooner.

Some food for thought, the car appears to have a 28X10.5 on a 8" wheel. If that is true, I'd be looking for some 10" wheels, "big" slicks are no bueno on a narrow wheel and they damn sure didn't help the swaying that car was doing for 3/4 of the track.
Part of what you say is true...but how about the radial front runners? Surely you're not missing those...They will play an equal of a role in how the ass tends to sway just as much as the 10.5" tire on a 8" rim. Together, they really play about an equal role in the swaying. If you got rid of the radial runner to a bias play the car would calm down a lot.

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Sorry Mike but I went 5.30s at over 130 MANY times with radial Ft runners.. This car was all over the track from the word go.. The first pass the car was straight as an arrow.. I think it was poor on the drivers part to stay in it when there was nothing to win.. Just like the 280z I called it as soon as he took off the car was out of control Im sure the tires play a role but lack of driving skills played a part in both crashes.. Just my 2 cents

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Or did the transplant reject the car?

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Part of what you say is true...but how about the radial front runners? Surely you're not missing those...They will play an equal of a role in how the ass tends to sway just as much as the 10.5" tire on a 8" rim. Together, they really play about an equal role in the swaying. If you got rid of the radial runner to a bias play the car would calm down a lot.
You know, funny you should mention it - I asked Wolfe the very same thing a while back, because I was more curious than anything. For us "street" drivers, there aren't a whole lot of options for bias/bias tire arrangements. He said something along the lines of, if it's on the street, YES, it would be a problem - on the track, where grooves are minimal or non-existant, it won't make a shit.

I mean, after all, the drag radial cars like his, run bias tires on the front and radials on the back. Same thing, just opposite ends of the car.

On MY car, I could easily tell when I got on grooved concrete - the back of the car would drive 6" further right or left if you hit the grooves just right, and it would stay like that until the grooves ran out - track, never had a problem that I could think of.
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You know, funny you should mention it - I asked Wolfe the very same thing a while back, because I was more curious than anything. For us "street" drivers, there aren't a whole lot of options for bias/bias tire arrangements. He said something along the lines of, if it's on the street, YES, it would be a problem - on the track, where grooves are minimal or non-existant, it won't make a shit.

I mean, after all, the drag radial cars like his, run bias tires on the front and radials on the back. Same thing, just opposite ends of the car.

On MY car, I could easily tell when I got on grooved concrete - the back of the car would drive 6" further right or left if you hit the grooves just right, and it would stay like that until the grooves ran out - track, never had a problem that I could think of.
I could easily tell the difference street or track with radials/bias ply mixed on my car..even with the wolfe bar on the rear. the size mismatch is this guys main issue like you said but dont look over the radial/bias mismatch either. Sportsman Pros are street driven tires to the non intelligent person aka 5.0. MT also makes a nice front tire to accompany their drag radials.

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Man I'm sorry to see this. Looks like the car was pretty nice. At least you're okay. Build it better and faster now!

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