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Judge locks up attorney for not reciting Pledge of Allegiance...

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I have no problem with the Pledge of Allegiance, but if someone doesnt want to say it, they shouldnt be jailed for it. Good grief.
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I think he deserved it, he should have recited the pledge.
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I think he deserved it, he should have recited the pledge.
you're kidding right? You seriously think someone deserves jail for not saying the pledge? ...Hitler...is that you?
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Someone needs to retire. Being a judge doesn't mean you are the emperor. I can't remember ever reciting the pledge in court.

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The fact is its the Judges court room and he can find you in contempt if he want's to. If he says to say the pledge the you better say the pledge. Seems a little over the top to me, but he should have just said the pledge and been done with it.

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The fact is its the Judges court room and he can find you in contempt if he want's to. If he says to say the pledge the you better say the pledge. Seems a little over the top to me, but he should have just said the pledge and been done with it.
It is his court room but he can't make up laws.

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you're kidding right? You seriously think someone deserves jail for not saying the pledge? ...Hitler...is that you?
Yes I do, WTF is wrong with reciting the pledge of allegiance in the courtroom? Why would'nt you? Just sounds unamerican to me. Do you not love your country? I know I have no problem reciting it..
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Yes I do, WTF is wrong with reciting the pledge of allegiance in the courtroom? Why would'nt you? Just sounds unamerican to me. Do you not love your country? I know I have no problem reciting it..
Hell yeah. Should have made him recite the 10 commandments as well as stand for the national anthem. Wonder if the judge had one of those mustaches overly trimmed on both sides.
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Yes I do, WTF is wrong with reciting the pledge of allegiance in the courtroom? Why would'nt you? Just sounds unamerican to me. Do you not love your country? I know I have no problem reciting it..
Hell yeah I love america...you know why? Because were free. Some arrogant old man can't force me to do something I don't want to. I hope this judge is punished. I have no problem reciting the pledge but do have a problem being forced to. It means nothing if you're forced to do it. That's entirely against freedom of speech.
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Yes I do, WTF is wrong with reciting the pledge of allegiance in the courtroom? Why would'nt you? Just sounds unamerican to me. Do you not love your country? I know I have no problem reciting it..
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Kid, you've got a really fucked up way of thinking. Well, if you can call that thinking.
I just dont see anything wrong with having to pledge allegiance to your flag and country in a government setting.

I think we need more of this in our country, maybe more people would be proud to be an american. Its not like the judge was praying. I just dont understand why anyone would have a problem with reciting the pledge, if you dont want to do it then get a job somewhere you dont have to. If you dont want to pledge to your country then you dont have to live here.

I know this is now off topic, but think about it. Why would the lawyer have a problem with it in the first place, thats what im upset about. The judge may have "overstepped" but I think he should have recited it and moved on with his business. Sounds like a publicity stunt anyways, and its working.
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I just dont see anything wrong with having to pledge allegiance to your flag and country in a government setting.

I think we need more of this in our country, maybe more people would be proud to be an american. Its not like the judge was praying. I just dont understand why anyone would have a problem with reciting the pledge, if you dont want to do it then get a job somewhere you dont have to. If you dont want to pledge to your country then you dont have to live here.

I know this is now off topic, but think about it. Why would the lawyer have a problem with it in the first place, thats what im upset about. The judge may have "overstepped" but I think he should have recited it and moved on with his business. Sounds like a publicity stunt anyways, and its working.
What exactly does the pledge mean if he doesn't say it willingly. Doesn't it lose it's meaning.

I'm not saying I agree with him not saying it, just that he should be jailed because he didn't. Find me a law that says he has to and I will change my mind.

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I just dont see anything wrong with having to pledge allegiance to your flag and country in a government setting.

I think we need more of this in our country, maybe more people would be proud to be an american. Its not like the judge was praying. I just dont understand why anyone would have a problem with reciting the pledge, if you dont want to do it then get a job somewhere you dont have to. If you dont want to pledge to your country then you dont have to live here.

I know this is now off topic, but think about it. Why would the lawyer have a problem with it in the first place, thats what im upset about. The judge may have "overstepped" but I think he should have recited it and moved on with his business. Sounds like a publicity stunt anyways, and its working.
One of the biggest reasons people are proud of this country is that we have freedom and liberty. Having Freedom and Liberty means that you don't have to say that pledge. One of the many reasons that I happily recite that pledge is because I have the freedom to say "fuck it" if I so choose.

BTW, there are several countries where you ARE required to take a pledge. Usually the people of those countries are lacking in freedom and liberty.

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What exactly does the pledge mean if he doesn't say it willingly. Doesn't it lose it's meaning.

I'm not saying I agree with him not saying it, just that he should be jailed because he didn't. Find me a law that says he has to and I will change my mind.
We're really talking about the same thing here. Here is how I see the situation.

Lawyer refuses to recite the pledge, judge asked him to recite. Lawyer then procedes to be a dick to the judge who then finds him contempt of court. If thats how the situation panned out then I have no problem with the outcome.

If its the judge just being an asshole, then yes I would see him in the wrong. Its all perception.
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Yeah you can either perceive it as a dumbass...or you can be a normal person and understand forcing someone to pledge completely contradicts our countries beliefs
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We're really talking about the same thing here. Here is how I see the situation.

Lawyer refuses to recite the pledge, judge asked him to recite. Lawyer then procedes to be a dick to the judge who then finds him contempt of court. If thats how the situation panned out then I have no problem with the outcome.

If its the judge just being an asshole, then yes I would see him in the wrong. Its all perception.

If he was being a dick, then the Judge would be right to cite him for comtempt, but that isn't what happened. There is no report that the lawyer was anything but civil. You're making a gratuitous assertion.

The judge cited him for, “failure to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance as ordered.” Note the "AS ORDERED" part. Fuck that judge.

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It is his court room but he can't make up laws.
Actually he can they are called common laws....
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Yeah you can either perceive it as a dumbass...or you can be a normal person and understand forcing someone to pledge completely contradicts our countries beliefs
But also, a "normal" person would have recited the pledge. Which is why Im not giving the lawyer much credit in this situation.
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I am a patriot and love my country...but I hate my govt. But I am not going to be forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
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One of the reasons for the American Revolution was that you had to pledge loyalty to King George. It was against the law to wish ill will toward the king. In medieval times it was high treason to suggest that the king would fall ill or die. People were killed for it.

Would it also be contempt of court to say you wish this judge would die? I'd bet he would lock you up for it.

This judge needs to be removed from his position, he is anti-American. Think about that for a second and you will realize what I am saying.

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