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Very few people have ridden in Ford's upcoming Raptor; we have. And allow us to tell you what: it's astonishing. Perhaps the single most impressive production vehicle ever, even if the prototypes we rode shotgun in were only 90% complete. That good, really? Yes, truly. Imagine bounding across the Nevada desert at 100 mph (fuel cutoff) and then leaping 45 feet through the air, landing, and doing it again and again and again. That is the magic of SVT and their Raptor.

With that in mind, what government agency could make use of such a steroidal, hardcore truck? No, not FEMA. Exactly, the Border Patrol. We can think of no vehicle more suited to running down a gang of coyotes that Ford's uber-off roader. After all, the SVT Raptor was developed in the grueling deserts of Southern California and Northern Mexico, the Boarder Patrol's home turf. And with 11.2 inches of gas-shock suspension travel in the front and 13.4 inches out back, there is very little if anything that will slow this beast down.

The Customs and Border Protection division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants at least ten of these monsters. Pickuptrucks.com indicates that the government's purchasing agents are requesting bare bones work interiors instead of the fancy leather and Synced up cockpits found in the consumer models. In our estimation, this change would only serve to make the Raptor even more functional and/or intimidating. No word on whether the Feds would like to go for the 5.4-liter Triton V8, or the much more powerful all-new 6.2-liter V8. Either way, keep an eye peeled if you need to make a run for the border.

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waste of tax payer money, it only seats 2, you cant haul any illegals with it, and those wheels/tires are way to small to chase someone through the open desert with.

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waste of tax payer money, it only seats 2, you cant haul any illegals with it, and those wheels/tires are way to small to chase someone through the open desert with.
That's an extended cab, 5 seater. Plus they have a crew cab version.

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waste of tax payer money, it only seats 2, you cant haul any illegals with it, and those wheels/tires are way to small to chase someone through the open desert with.


There's Debbie Downer and the "Let's not do anything to stop the tide of illegals" viewpoint...
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waste of tax payer money, it only seats 2, you cant haul any illegals with it, and those wheels/tires are way to small to chase someone through the open desert with.
Do you even know what the Raptor is? The one I test drove was a 5 seater and the wheels are too small to chase someone with? It placed in the Baja 1000 which is why Ford decided to market it. It's a Baja truck. Do try again
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"With our other trucks, we're tearing up shocks, suspension, skid plates," Wilmot says. The Raptor, though, is designed precisely for this mission -- high-speed desert recon. In fact, deputies take an off-road driving class where they learn how to take advantage of the Raptor's off-road talents, preferably without destroying it. "We call this truck the career-ender," Wilmot says. "You mess this thing up -- your career's over."

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There's Debbie Downer and the "Let's not do anything to stop the tide of illegals" viewpoint...
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Do you even know what the Raptor is? The one I test drove was a 5 seater and the wheels are too small to chase someone with? It placed in the Baja 1000 which is why Ford decided to market it. It's a Baja truck. Do try again
I heard they originally called it the (Taco chaser 1000) but changed it for obvious reasons!

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its not a baja truck, big difference... I am sure you can chase someone down interstate 10 just fine with one, even on a dirt road you might be fine. but when you get off the path, and there are big rocks, 6 foot ditches, streams. these illegals are not walking down the interstate, they are in the brush.

I will be the first to say, our border patrol needs better equipment, but they are not needing a race truck, to them this is just another 4x4 pick up and will be used in the same capacity as their current 4x4 trucks.

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its not a baja truck, big difference... I am sure you can chase someone down interstate 10 just fine with one, even on a dirt road you might be fine. but when you get off the path, and there are big rocks, 6 foot ditches, streams. these illegals are not walking down the interstate, they are in the brush.

I will be the first to say, our border patrol needs better equipment, but they are not needing a race truck, to them this is just another 4x4 pick up and will be used in the same capacity as their current 4x4 trucks.
Well atleast it is money spent here and not in another country to chase down some evil dick taster oops, i mean dictator!

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This is the Ford Raptor -


Not this...


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This is the Ford Raptor -


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please tell me thats not what he thought we were talking about! Notice the guy is looking in the rear view mirror to see if he got him or not! lol

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its not a baja truck, big difference... I am sure you can chase someone down interstate 10 just fine with one, even on a dirt road you might be fine. but when you get off the path, and there are big rocks, 6 foot ditches, streams. these illegals are not walking down the interstate, they are in the brush.

I will be the first to say, our border patrol needs better equipment, but they are not needing a race truck, to them this is just another 4x4 pick up and will be used in the same capacity as their current 4x4 trucks.
Research is your friend. Ford took one, I believe with 'stock' suspension and placed 3rd in their respective class at the Baja 1000.


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Those are fine for pursuit on back roads and open flat lands but they need some of these for the heavier shit.


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As long as they hire more agents and this allows them to catch more illegals, I'm for it.
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This is the Raptor. It was always meant to be a Baja truck. With stock everything (they designed and raced it in the Baja 1000) it was out running the mountains and deserts. It was DESIGNED for this kind of thing and once again CAnnon, you're firing blanks.
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Yep, street truck for sure.


I wish they'd stop showing this truck in the DESERT. Afterall, Cannon says it is a street truck that can't do offroading.
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As far as I know there is no crew cab one. At least not yet, and I haven't heard that they were gonna make one. They're all super-cabs. I've driven a couple, of course never offroad or anything and they're cool ass trucks. I'd love one.
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As far as I know there is no crew cab one. At least not yet, and I haven't heard that they were gonna make one. They're all super-cabs. I've driven a couple, of course never offroad or anything and they're cool ass trucks. I'd love one.
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This is the Raptor. It was always meant to be a Baja truck. With stock everything (they designed and raced it in the Baja 1000) it was out running the mountains and deserts. It was DESIGNED for this kind of thing and once again CAnnon, you're firing blanks.
thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
Walking around, unprepared? Think if we made them use native sticks instead of firearms! Then we could hire even more. It could be like border red rover! "Send Julio over!" and if he makes it past the sticks, he gets to stay.

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
Again,you're retarded. That truck is as it comes off the showroom. I providid you a link to the raptor site,click on it. The sticker price is somewhere around 45k if I remember right. Wih the government buying them,expect a big discount.

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someone explain to me how they plan to use this vehicle in a more efficient capacity then the current prepped 4x4 trucks that they are using? I just do not see the need for the increased government spending for a truck that will be used for the same purpose as the current truck that costs less.

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As far as I know there is no crew cab one. At least not yet, and I haven't heard that they were gonna make one. They're all super-cabs. I've driven a couple, of course never offroad or anything and they're cool ass trucks. I'd love one.
You can already order the crew cab its just not on the lots yet. They started orders a few weeks ago.

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
A base model raptor has an MSRP of under 40k so the government is probably paying in the mid 30's or less for them. I don't see how lights, bed cover, camera, computer system, etc could come anywhere near an extra 50k to outfit one. No need to exaggerate your numbers just to make your argument look valid.

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
Wrong Cannon. That is the stock truck. It was built for Baja and then they added the pretty stuff for the interior for general markets
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Here's a good reason. They're fast as balls and handle the terrain much better than a stock f150. They were designed to handle the rough terrain. That's why its got fox racing shocks stock. 35" tires for improved ground clearance. Widened fenders and bedsides to allow for suspension travel. And they don't cost too much more than a factory f150.
currently they are not using "stock" trucks, they have big tires and off road suspension along with a few other mods, but they are cheaper then the raptors and can do the same thing, so why spend the extra money?

this is the current duty truck:

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
Good god, have you heard of google? Here's a thread that I started a while back. This was one of the ones I drove to some show for the graduating student techs. This truck is 100% showroom stock and stickered for a little over $40,000, you can get them without the baja decals and that will knock another $3,000 off the price.

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Looks good! I think I like the supercab a little more but I'd love to have either.
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currently they are not using "stock" trucks, they have big tires and off road suspension along with a few other mods, but they are cheaper then the raptors and can do the same thing, so why spend the extra money?

this is the current duty truck:
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"With our other trucks, we're tearing up shocks, suspension, skid plates," Wilmot says. The Raptor, though, is designed precisely for this mission -- high-speed desert recon. In fact, deputies take an off-road driving class where they learn how to take advantage of the Raptor's off-road talents, preferably without destroying it. "We call this truck the career-ender," Wilmot says. "You mess this thing up -- your career's over."

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You cry about nobody doing anything for border security and then cry when Ford delivers the right tools for the job.

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thats not a stock truck, that thing has well over $100K in it. the illegals are not coming up the baja path, they are way off the main path and in the deep brush. so in the end al this thing will be used for is driving down the interstate and and dirt roads, same as the trucks they are currently using.

what are these trucks going to cost the tax payers? $50k per truck, and then another $50k to outfit the truck for duty. thats a million dollars for the 10 trucks, plus up maintenance and what ever more they cost in gas. how many agents can they put on the border for that kind of money 20-25? I would rather see the agents
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You cry about nobody doing anything for border security and then cry when Ford delivers the right tools for the job.

Have you ever even ridden off-road or does mommy not let you off the pavement???
what can the raptor do that the current truck can not do? the current truck already has the skid plate, off road suspension, and all those goodies. so why to we need to spend thousands of dollars fore for a truck that will be used in the same capacity as the current truck?

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im the democrat? im not the one who is advocating more government spending for a truck that will do the exact same thing as the truck we currently use.

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im the democrat? im not the one who is advocating more government spending for a truck that will do the exact same thing as the truck we currently use.
The exact same thing...wow

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what can the raptor do that the current truck can not do? the current truck already has the skid plate, off road suspension, and all those goodies. so why to we need to spend thousands of dollars fore for a truck that will be used in the same capacity as the current truck?
The Raptor is designed for highspeed offroad performance. That halfton chevy is designed to go through mud at 5mph, the raptor can do it at 60mph.
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The Raptor is designed for highspeed offroad performance. That halfton chevy is designed to go through mud at 5mph, the raptor can do it at 60mph.
Can Mexicans run @ 60mph?

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Can Mexicans run @ 60mph?
You ever watch soccer? Those little guys are fast.

No, but they can run over 5mph.
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post #46 of 82 (permalink) Old 10-04-2010, 06:11 PM
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waste of tax payer money, it only seats 2, you cant haul any illegals with it, and those wheels/tires are way to small to chase someone through the open desert with.
You could stack 30 of them easy in the bed of the F-150. They do it all the time.

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I just wish they would come out with a new Lightning!

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post #48 of 82 (permalink) Old 10-04-2010, 07:26 PM
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Those are fine for pursuit on back roads and open flat lands but they need some of these for the heavier shit.

Need to leave the gun on the roof and start applying alittle lead poisoning to the folks that run.

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im the democrat? im not the one who is advocating more government spending for a truck that will do the exact same thing as the truck we currently use.
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The Raptor can go places the old truck can't at speeds the old truck can't even think of. It's designed to be hammered on across hard country whereas the old trucks are street trucks with off road modifications as an afterthought.
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