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Face-camera collision

An Oregon man was trying to tape a Democratic gubernatorial candidate at a church. Organizers didn't like it, and asked him to stop taping. When the cameraman refused, a skirmish broke out, resulting in him getting the camera slammed into his face.







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I hope he presses charges on both brothas.
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i'd be yelling and getting everyone's attention for getting punched! it would help on pressing charges

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Home boy would have been withdrawing my camera from his ass along with my shoe strings.

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Seeing the force of that punch from the other camera's view, I can say at that point it'd be ON between me and him.

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They were just being good Democrats.....
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What the heck? Is there any logical reason he couldn't film that?

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What the heck? Is there any logical reason he couldn't film that?
Black Liberation Theology. The blacks were liberating him from his first amendment rights and camera.

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Sue take the church and turn it to a strip club.

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Black Liberation Theology. The blacks were liberating him from his first amendment rights and camera.
Haha. Seriously, all political bs answers like "they are just democrats" aside, why shouldn't he be filming? And why didn't anyone notice the second camera?

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um,i would have smashed my camera in dudes face.fuck that.there would have been an immediate ass whooping.i encourage all to never take shit off anyone.especially in this manner.

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First off, that dude needs to sue the hell (no pun intended) out of those two. Especially the ass hat that decided to smack him. Those jackoffs should have just called the law and let them earn their pay and not take it upon themselves to interpret the law or constitutional rights of everyone in there.

Now I was curious why he kept saying it was his first amendment right to film since I equate the first amendment right with free speech so I looked it up....

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


That sounds a bit confusing though but in a nutshell, can a church be privately owned? I would think they could tell people to not film under normal circumstances. Of course when you talking about public figures alot of that goes out the window. I would assume all that falls under "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" right?
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There are some issues that arise with a church, politics and maintaining 501c3 status. Mainly being that they can't support a specific candidate directly.

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There are some issues that arise with a church, politics and maintaining 501c3 status. Mainly being that they can't support a specific candidate directly.
He said it was a public event and the public was invited. I would think that overrides private ownership of the premises.
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He said it was a public event and the public was invited. I would think that overrides private ownership of the premises.
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To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

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Technically, churches aren't privately owned. If a church defaults, a pastor can't sell the properties and bounce with the cash, unless you go by Tilton.
The assets have to be transferred to another 501c3.

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There is no first amendment right issue here but there is an assault issue. You can ask or you can demand someone to stop filming but if they don't comply... better get yourself an officer of the law.... can't just go around smackin' people upside the head for doing things you don't like.

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He said it was a public event and the public was invited. I would think that overrides private ownership of the premises.
I think he is saying that is why the church members were trying to get him to stop filming, not that legally he would have to.

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