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School trip to Mosque

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Really? What happened to that separation of church and state libs are always screaming about? Teaching children lies about Islam and making them bow towards Mecca? on our dime?
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Today, Americans for Peace and Tolerance released a video showing 6th graders from Wellesley, MA as they rise from prostrating themselves alongside Muslim men in a prayer to Allah while on a public school field trip to the largest mosque in the Northeast. Teachers did not intervene. Parents have not been told.
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I'm not going to say too much, other than I honestly wonder what the reactions would be (media, parent, DFWS) if they had taken them to a Buddhist Temple or a Christian Church.

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Today, Americans for Peace and Tolerance released a video showing 6th graders from Wellesley, MA as they rise from prostrating themselves alongside Muslim men in a prayer to Allah while on a public school field trip to the largest mosque in the Northeast. Teachers did not intervene. Parents have not been told.
It's okay to lie of you are islamic. Their black rock told them it's okay through their illiterate prophet Muhammad.
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It's one thing to visit in the interest of learning. It's another thing entirely to partake in a religious ritual. If there was a Muslim school kid who was forced to take communion, this would be headline news on CNN. The liberals would be in an uproar that this poor kid had to drink grape juice and eat a cracker.

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Religious tolerance is a two-way street - no matter how much we tolerate, they simply don't. And that's why this won't end well for us.
That is the sad truth. Their culture and especially their religion preaches intolerance. To paraphrase, "If you ain't muslim, you ain't shit"...in their eyes.
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I'm not an overly litigious person, but I'd be suing the school district, state education agency, superintendent, principal, teacher, etc.
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It's one thing to visit in the interest of learning. It's another thing entirely to partake in a religious ritual. If there was a Muslim school kid who was forced to take communion, this would be headline news on CNN. The liberals would be in an uproar that this poor kid had to drink grape juice and eat a cracker.

Religious tolerance is a two-way street - no matter how much we tolerate, they simply don't. And that's why this won't end well for us.
Couldn't agree more!
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It's one thing to visit in the interest of learning. It's another thing entirely to partake in a religious ritual. If there was a Muslim school kid who was forced to take communion, this would be headline news on CNN. The liberals would be in an uproar that this poor kid had to drink grape juice and eat a cracker.

Religious tolerance is a two-way street - no matter how much we tolerate, they simply don't. And that's why this won't end well for us.
It'll end in a big ass backlash against muslims, I think. In the end I think they are screwing themselves right out of the land of the free. Oh well, on less race that isn't good enough and doesn't deserve to be here.

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I'm not an overly litigious person, but I'd be suing the school district, state education agency, superintendent, principal, teacher, etc.
Same. And you'd likely win. The law says in no uncertain terms that this is against it.

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And what makes it even better is the fact that the school didn't tell parents this happened
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I'm not an overly litigious person, but I'd be suing the school district, state education agency, superintendent, principal, teacher, etc.
Exactly....no wonder the parents weren't told.
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when I was in grade school we had field trips to all kinds of religious places (and I went to a private christian school) I know we visited a jewish temple, a buddhist temple, and I think a hindu place. I dont remember going to a mosque though. I think field trips are good. because its important to understand other religions, why hindus do not eat beef, and why jews dont eat pork, thats important stuff to know if you ever find yourself among people of those cultures. but I dont think they should push the religious aspects on kids that are just on a field trip

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when I was in grade school we had field trips to all kinds of religious places (and I went to a private christian school) I know we visited a jewish temple, a buddhist temple, and I think a hindu place. I dont remember going to a mosque though. I think field trips are good. because its important to understand other religions, why hindus do not eat beef, and why jews dont eat pork, thats important stuff to know if you ever find yourself among people of those cultures. but I dont think they should push the religious aspects on kids that are just on a field trip
The issue here is that these students attend a public school, an institution where any sort of religious activity is inappropriate according to the libs. I would say bowing to Mecca fits the definition of religious activity.
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I dont think they should push the religious aspects on kids that are just on a field trip
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The issue here is that these students attend a public school, an institution where any sort of religious activity is inappropriate according to the libs. I would say bowing to Mecca fits the definition of religious activity.
even in a public school you can still learn the differences between the cultures in a secular way.

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even in a public school you can still learn the differences between the cultures in a secular way.
In a secular way. Visiting a mosque, is not secular by any means.
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I'm not going to say too much, other than I honestly wonder what the reactions would be (media, parent, DFWS) if they had taken them to a Buddhist Temple or a Christian Church.
Wonder? Hell, you see the reaction when some poor sap tries to pray in school, or before a game, or before a valedictorian speech. Even when Christian clubs meet on school grounds after school there's a stink.

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even in a public school you can still learn the differences between the cultures in a secular way.
bowing to mecca and praying to allah are secular....
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bowing to mecca and praying to allah are secular....
I agree forcing the kids to bow and pray is not right.

you can visit a mosque or any religious site and be secular about it. I have been to the vatican and am not catholic, and many other people of different faiths visit there in a secular way. my point is you can visit places like this in an educational secular manner, and I am OK with that. forcing kids to pray, thats not cool


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I agree forcing the kids to bow and pray is not right.

you can visit a mosque or any religious site and be secular about it. I have been to the vatican and am not catholic, and many other people of different faiths visit there in a secular way. my point is you can visit places like this in an educational secular manner, and I am OK with that. forcing kids to pay, thats not cool
Did your school take you to the Vatican and force you to pray? I fail to see the resemblance (parallel)...

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Did your school take you to the Vatican and force you to pray? I fail to see the resemblance (parallel)...
of course not, I would not have done that, as you can see I am all for visiting for an educatioal benefit but I am against them forcing the kids to pray.

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forcing kids to pay, thats not cool
Yeah, they don't have jobs...
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I agree forcing the kids to bow and pray is not right.

you can visit a mosque or any religious site and be secular about it. I have been to the vatican and am not catholic, and many other people of different faiths visit there in a secular way. my point is you can visit places like this in an educational secular manner, and I am OK with that. forcing kids to pray, thats not cool
According to the libs you can't visit a religious site and be secular about it, unless said site happens to currently be Muslim oriented, in which case it's OK to do so in order to not offend people of other cultures.
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of course not, I would not have done that, as you can see I am all for visiting for an educatioal benefit but I am against them forcing the kids to pray.
So now they should go to a cathedral, a babtist church, a buddist monestary, and some guy's cult? I mean that is what you are saying. If you condone one religion, then you condone the kids visiting all the of them.

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This is just plain sick, no matter how you slice it.

I especially love the part with the imam lying his ass off to the kids. I love how he told them Jihad is inner spiritual struggle.

If you are Islamic, it's okay to lie to the infidels though.
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I'm sure the Imam's inner spiritual struggle has kept him from blowing up himself.
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