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NEW YORK -- Hundreds of family members of Sept. 11 victims recited loved ones' names through tears on the ninth anniversary of the attacks Saturday, avoiding direct mention of the political furor over plans for a mosque that later drew thousands of protesters on both sides.

After the ceremony, around 1,000 activists rallied about five blocks from the site of the 2001 attacks to support the proposed Islamic community center. Several hundred others rallied nearby, chanting "USA, USA" and "No mosque here."

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Question: Why do the pro-muslim people choose today, a day to remember the ones who died, to demonstrate for their mosque?

Answer: Because 9/11 represents a sort of victory for them and their religion. It's the same reason they want to build the mosque near ground zero. To rub 9/11 in our faces. So they can celebrate their victory behind closed doors, yet act like they are our friends. They obvuiosly want to to destroy our way of life and even us. They expect us to respect and conform to their beliefs while not respecting or following ours. They say they are a religion of peace, yet you never hear of one of them condeming the despicable acts their fellow men commit. Why is that? They hide behind their burkas and their so-called religion to push their political agenda. That is part of the problem. Their "religion" and political agenda are one on the same. How convenient. They want us to pass laws and make rules for their religion, while at the same time, we cannot condem their religion. Our system of separation of church and state cannot compete fairly. Ecspecially when our own president is sympathetic to them.

If they aren't with us, then they are against us. If they want to be part of Amerca, then they need to stand up and be counted as Americans. If their religion conflicts with that, then they will never be true Americans. And we will never have peace.

They had a demonstration in France the other day. In the middle of rush hour, they gathered in the middle of the highways and shut down trafffic. Their message was that "they have arrived". After all of the years that the white man had infiltrated their cities and stayed, now it is their turn to take over. Is that what we want here in America too?

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Here are a few posts on the wfaa site that I like.

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Here is the point on GZ: Yes, our laws allow a mosque to be built there, BUT common decency says a person should choose not not. This is how we balance our limited set of freedom laws without having a law for every second of our lives. I can wear a t-shirt that shows, say, the body of a person with their guts hanging out, shocking and in color. But, common decency says I choose not to. However, if I choose to do so I am willifully doing it to send a message to others - I am selfish and don't care what others think, and you will have to look at it, even just once, and get my message, just once. Another example is a billboard with a message you don't like, you did look and wonder why common decency would say why is it there. Freedom has many shades of common decency but each with a meaning. Common decency says that the mosque should not be built there. If it is built there then it is intended to be a message. The question is what do you think the message is?.

There is really nothing to say except the muslim faith is showing itself as UGLY and INSENSITIVE by wanting to build a mosque where Americans were MURDERED, premeditatively, by muslims for NO other reason than that we are Americans and do NOT believe the way they do. SHAME on them! I never knew a muslim who was not sensitive and thoughtful so I do not understand this idea of building a mosque at GZ. As with anything the loudest and most obnoxious who get their way because they are are not always the majority. Consider this when you think of the muslim people. May GOD bless all the families of the GZ and 9-11 victims with utter PEACE!.


Why do I think islam is NOT a peaceful religion? Why do I not trust muslims? The 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings occurred on 29 October 2005 in Delhi, India, killing 62 people and injuring at least 210 others in three explosions. The bombings came only two days before the important festival of Diwali, which is celebrated by Hindus, Sikhs, and Jains. The bombs were triggered in two markets in central and south Delhi and in a bus in the Govindpuri area in the south of the city. Indian investigators believe the Kashmir separatist/ Islamic terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba, comprised of devout muslim men between the ages of 18 and 40 was behind the attacks.

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Why do they do it? Because they are assholes.

They have no respect for us. They expect us to take the moral high road and avoid the clear and obvious answer.

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I saw a pic of someone holding a sign that said "Moderate Muslims wouldn't build a mosque here"

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Doesn't have anything to do with religion. Those who planned all this merely hide behind religion and twist it to their own ends. The same way Obammy uses "healthcare" as a shield for his leftist agenda.

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Why do they also want to dedicate the building on 9/11 of whatever year it is built?

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Why do they also want to dedicate the building on 9/11 of whatever year it is built?
The same reason nazis would want a memorial to the holocaust to have some german name attached... oppression.

Those maggots are trying to send a message, and the liberal politically correct sacks of shit are letting them.

It would be the same thing if the Japanese were asking to erect a memorial in Pearl Harbor, to those Japanese that died during the Pearl Harbor invasion.

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The same reason nazis would want a memorial to the holocaust to have some german name attached... oppression.

Those maggots are trying to send a message, and the liberal politically correct sacks of shit are letting them.

It would be the same thing if the Japanese were asking to erect a memorial in Pearl Harbor, to those Japanese that died during the Pearl Harbor invasion.

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Clearly you've never been to the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor when Japanese tourists are there.... It's just like Muslims on 9/11.
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Clearly you've never been to the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor when Japanese tourists are there.... It's just like Muslims on 9/11.
Was it constructed by the Japanese as a memorial to Japanese? Or is it an American monument to Americans lost at war and perverted by Japanese?

And for the record, if I was there and saw some asian acting like that, there would be on more body added to that grave.

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Clearly you've never been to the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor when Japanese tourists are there.... It's just like Muslims on 9/11.
If they did that when I was there they'd quickly shut up because I would just smile real big while I made that bomb dropping whistle sound with my lips followed by that little explosion sound. I bet that would wipe the pride right off their faces.

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Was it constructed by the Japanese as a memorial to Japanese? Or is it an American monument to Americans lost at war and perverted by Japanese?

And for the record, if I was there and saw some asian acting like that, there would be on more body added to that grave.

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Nice job talking tough behind your computer screen. Please go to the memorial and kill a few tourists. I'd like to hear about it on the news. Something tells me you aren't a man of your word though.
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If they did that when I was there they'd quickly shut up because I would just smile real big while I made that bomb dropping whistle sound with my lips followed by that little explosion sound. I bet that would wipe the pride right off their faces.
That would definitely wipe the smiles from their faces. I'm sad I did not think of that.
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I know jyro already posted this, but I want to make sure everyone sees it. It reinforces what I was trying to say.

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So in short, its like I have been saying. Deport them all, and bomb their home countries back to the yeah 3000 BC

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in 6 months no one will care about the community center, just like no one cared about it 18 months ago

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in 6 months no one will care about the community center, just like no one cared about it 18 months ago
Middle easterners like you might not care, Americans will.

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so where was your concern 18 months ago about this community center? where is the concern about the actual mosque that is 4 blocks away?

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so where was your concern 18 months ago about this community center?
The same place it was when I first heard about it.

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where is the concern about the actual mosque that is 4 blocks away?
Which was built after 9/11? Yeah, I didn't think so.

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The same place it was when I first heard about it.



Which was built after 9/11? Yeah, I didn't think so.

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so where do you draw the line, 4 blocks away is ok, but 2 is not, so do you draw the line at 3?
is it just mosques that can not be built there, or does that extend to other religions?
would muslim owned businesses be ok if they were 2 blocks from the site.

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Nice job talking tough behind your computer screen. Please go to the memorial and kill a few tourists. I'd like to hear about it on the news. Something tells me you aren't a man of your word though.
Big words coming from an obama-backing liberal. It is a shame you were too big of a pussy to make a statement to some asians laughing at the people that gave their lives to protected yours.

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so where do you draw the line, 4 blocks away is ok, but 2 is not, so do you draw the line at 3?
is it just mosques that can not be built there, or does that extend to other religions?
would muslim owned businesses be ok if they were 2 blocks from the site.

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Which was built after 9/11? Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Big words coming from an obama-backing liberal. It is a shame you were too big of a pussy to make a statement to some asians laughing at the people that gave their lives to protected yours.

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ROFL.

Seriously if you think I support Obama or am a liberal, then on your best day you have the reading comprehension of an aborted fetus.

If you are in uniform and are surrounded by Asians laughing at the Arizona memorial and you pummel their ass, you can rest assured you would be court martialed and be the numero uno story on CNN. That's why I did not. Maybe you can recall a US sub that sank a Japanese fishing trawler near the same time. The actions you request would've been considered far worse.

Your too much of a pussy to do anything at all besides post tough guy bullshit on the internet. Get in the game Stevo. You're just another idiot wanna be a tough guy on the internet clone. I'm not impressed.
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ROFL.

Seriously if you think I support Obama or am a liberal, then on your best day you have the reading comprehension of an aborted fetus.

If you are in uniform and are surrounded by Asians laughing at the Arizona memorial and you pummel their ass, you can rest assured you would be court martialed and be the numero uno story on CNN. That's why I did not. Maybe you can recall a US sub that sank a Japanese fishing trawler near the same time. The actions you request would've been considered far worse.

Your too much of a pussy to do anything at all besides post tough guy bullshit on the internet. Get in the game Stevo. You're just another idiot wanna be a tough guy on the internet clone. I'm not impressed.
Yeah, hide behind what ever it takes for you to justify being scared to be patriotic.

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so you are just appose to any new building being built after 9/11? or muslim owned buildings or just mosques? is it all of Manhattan, or just a 2 block radius of ground zero? its just hard for me to follow you liberals with your new laws, and less liberties.

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so you are just appose to any new building being built after 9/11? or muslim owned buildings or just mosques? is it all of Manhattan, or just a 2 block radius of ground zero? its just hard for me to follow you liberals with your new laws, and less liberties.
Poor attempt at baiting, kiddo. You are so flustered now that you are just repeating yourself and asking the same bullshit questions, which have already been answered.

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Poor attempt at baiting, kiddo. You are so flustered now that you are just repeating yourself and asking the same bullshit questions, which have already been answered.

Come back when actually can make a point and supporting statements.

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so what is the answer? what are the new restrictions that you are wanting to impose on our free society?

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so what is the answer? what are the new restrictions that you are wanting to impose on our free society?
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Which was built after 9/11? Yeah, I didn't think so.

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I am not asking you about 9 years ago, I am asking about today

so what can or can not be built after 9/11? a mosque, a community center, a temple, any new building, muslim owned business? where we drawing the line?

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so where was your concern 18 months ago about this community center? where is the concern about the actual mosque that is 4 blocks away?
Oh you'll see. When the republicans retake power in november, and then again in 2012. The party is being pulled hard to the conservative agenda, just as the democratic party has been pulled hard to the leftist liberal commie agenda. When the republicans are mostly strict conservatives, just as the democrats are mostly liberals, what do you think they are going to do when they have power? Squash bullshit like this. Duh.

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