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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/...me-with-ak-47/

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.


George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.



“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.
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Wait a sec? This fella fires into the ground because he is smart enough to know about ShotSpotter and it would get the cops to his location. How the hell is that depraved indifference? What a bunch of fuckin' morons they have in NY.

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IMO, this guys only mistake is not living in Texas. He could have shot every one of those fuckers dead and the cops would have given him an Attaboy.
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That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.


Did not know they have this system in Dallas.

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Did not know they have this system in Dallas.
It was in New York. Maybe you should stick to sound financial advice?......................................

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I agree if you live in that shithole you deserve to be arrested for trying to defend yourself. Any city who has a ban on guns in general is a city I would never live in.

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sounds like this case has yet to be heard by a grand jury, so he has been charged but not indicted, and based on the information in the article the grand jury may not even issue an indictment.

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IMO, this guys only mistake is not living in Texas. He could have shot every one of those fuckers dead and the cops would have given him an Attaboy.
Bullshit! The Rick Perry haters are gonna turn-this-mutha-out on election day! We will all be looking down the barrel of a vibrator held by none other than Bill White. When he gets done fucking us in the ass (no lube), we will be no better off than NY.

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And add in later what you should have stated initially. Do you sweat when someone begins to straighten a coat hanger?

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And add in later what you should have stated initially. Do you sweat when someone begins to straighten a coat hanger?

what did I add to post #5 ?




I was kind enough to enlarge it for you since you misunderstood the same exact comment posted in normal font in post #5.



Do you know what part of Dallas this system is in ?


Seems to be a pretty expensive crime deterrent but the statistics show it works rather well.


I wonder if it generates false alarms such as when a construction company is using a hilti gun to fasten bottom plates or does the technology account for these situations.

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It's apparent with his signature that he hopes pointing the finger at others will disguise his malfunctions with the facts that so easily elude him. He realized that insults are a true sign of surrender and when confronted with the fact that public speaking does not blanket the entire job of President, he has no choice but to remain silent. Factor in bama's choice for VP Joe Biden, who is three times more clumsy with public speaking than Palin and Bush put together, and you will understand why he remains silent.

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Palin didn't cut the size of government as mayor of Wasilla, and she hasn't done so as Alaska's governor, city and state budget records show. Spending in fast-growing Wasilla increased by 55% during her tenure from 1996-2002, records show. In nearly two years as governor, she has presided over a 31% spending hike by a state government that sought earmarks from Washington even as it reaped billions from higher oil prices and Palin-backed tax increases on oil companies.




In June 2007, Palin signed a record $6.6 billion operating budget into law






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Now I remember why that idiot is on my ignore list in the first place.

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what did I add to post #5 ?




I was kind enough to enlarge it for you since you misunderstood the same exact comment posted in normal font in post #5.



Do you know what part of Dallas this system is in ?


Seems to be a pretty expensive crime deterrent but the statistics show it works rather well.


I wonder if it generates false alarms such as when a construction company is using a hilti gun to fasten bottom plates or does the technology account for these situations.

You are truly dense. Your mind is like a maze of fucking pound cake.

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You are truly dense. Your mind is like a maze of fucking pound cake.

I will restate it differently just for you so there will be no misunderstanding.


I did not know they have a shotspotter like the one listed in the article in Dallas as well.


Is that better ?


Now do you know where part of Dallas it is located in ?


I don't live there and was just curious.

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It's apparent with his signature that he hopes pointing the finger at others will disguise his malfunctions with the facts that so easily elude him. He realized that insults are a true sign of surrender and when confronted with the fact that public speaking does not blanket the entire job of President, he has no choice but to remain silent. Factor in bama's choice for VP Joe Biden, who is three times more clumsy with public speaking than Palin and Bush put together, and you will understand why he remains silent.



My avatar and sig are just BS to stir the pot and try to get someone worthy of debating facts.

So far I have not found a challenge on this board.


I voted for Ron Paul so according to palidin I am a RP nuthugger.

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I did not know they have a shotspotter like the one listed in the article in Dallas as well.


Is that better ?


Now do you know where part of Dallas it is located in ?


I don't live there and was just curious.

I get the conclusion you were trying to come to. The problem is, that in the initial post you placed a conclusion with no supporting statements or premises. Therefore, you argument was pointless.
I didn't need further clarification.

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my avatar and sig are just bs to stir the pot and try to get someone worthy of debating facts.

So far i have not found a challenge on this board.


I voted for ron paul so according to palidin i am a rp nuthugger.
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I get the conclusion you were trying to come to. The problem is, that in the initial post you placed a conclusion with no supporting statements or premises. Therefore, you argument was pointless.
I didn't need further clarification.

My major was in economics not english.


Sorry for my failure to clarify my statement in my original post.

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My major was in economics not english.


Sorry for my failure to clarify my statement in my original post.
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