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Joe Arpaio: Why is Obama administration suing an outspoken Arizona sheriff?
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Tucson, Ariz. – The United States Justice Department is filing an "unprecedented" lawsuit against Joe Arpaio, the controversial sheriff of Arizona's Maricopa County.

In announcing the legal action Thursday, a Justice Department official said that Sheriff Arpaio is refusing to cooperate with a federal investigation into allegations of discrimination and illegal searches and seizures by the department.

The Justice Department said it has been seeking documents relating to its civil-rights probe for 15 months and turned to a lawsuit only as a last resort, adding that this was the first time in 30 years that a police department had not cooperated with a civil-rights investigation.

"The actions of the sheriff's office are unprecedented," said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the civil-rights division, in a statement.

Arpaio told the Arizona Republic that he thought the lawsuit was "camouflage" for a federal attempt to curtail his anti-illegal immigration sweeps in mostly Latino communities. He also said he had begun cooperating with federal authorities and thought they were making headway toward a solution.

Arpaio and the Obama administration have repeatedly clashed over immigration policy.

A longtime lawman with a penchant for theatrics, Arpaio has been a central figure in the federal government’s practice of enlisting local and state police to enforce certain aspects of immigration law – a program called 287(g).

The program is seen as one of the inspirations for SB 1070, the controversial Arizona immigration law that was signed into law this year but which is now tied up in a court battle. As such, both 287(g) and Arpaio – its most zealous practitioner – have become lightning rods.

A $1 million bounty?Arpaio’s crackdowns on illegal immigrants are well known on both sides of the US-Mexico border, to the point that his office says he has been sent a death threat by a Mexican drug cartel recently, although the origin of the $1 million bounty on the sheriff’s head is unconfirmed.

It isn’t the first time Arpaio is threatened. “He’s a controversial figure, he’s an outspoken person,” says sheriff's spokeswoman Lisa Allen.

Some blame 287(g) for giving Arpaio and other local law enforcement agencies across the country the authority to go after illegal immigrants. The program, part of the Immigration and Nationality Act created in 1996, emerged from obscurity after the 9/11 attacks and later morphed into federal-local immigration enforcement whose goals prioritized the arrest and deportation of illegal immigrants charged with crimes.

More than 70 local law enforcement agencies in 26 states are part of 287(g), which has recorded about 118,500 deportations, according to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Since 2007, 287(g) has allowed the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office to help identify and oust more than 26,000 people living in the United States illegally – the highest tally in the country. Second to Maricopa, Los Angeles County helped deport nearly 14,000 illegal immigrants.

Supporters of 287(g) say it is a flexible and mutually beneficial program for both the federal government and local authorities. “If you’re in Arizona, where you have a major problem with illegal immigration, then obviously you’re going to want to use that to every extent you can,” says Bryan Griffith, a spokesman with the conservative Center for Immigration Studies.

Using 287(g) as it was intended?But civil rights groups say Arpaio and other law enforcement agencies have abused the program, using racial profiling to conduct 287(g) illegal-immigrant sweeps.

“The way it’s played out on the ground has been witnessed by the world in Maricopa County and so there’s clearly a dissonance between its stated intentions and its effect in communities,” says Chris Newman, legal counsel for the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

The Government Accountability Office also has been critical of 287(g) and in March the Office of the Inspector General concluded local police operated outside limits and noted insufficient federal oversight and training. ICE officials have said they were trying to make improvements even before the finding were issued.

Last year, the Obama administration rescinded Arpaio's right to conduct sweeps under 287(g), but Arpaio has continued his crackdowns, saying state laws give him all the authority he needs.

Jack Chin, a law professor at the University of Arizona, agrees. And he says Arpaio's actions show the difficulty of bringing local law enforcement – sometimes with its own agenda – into a federal program. "287(g) is a federal program under federal supervision,” he says. “And the sheriff, like SB 1070, has a set of priorities that is different from those in the federal law.”

The Justice Department lawsuit does not deal with 287(g) explicitly, but is looking into the allegations that the sheriff's office uses racial profiling during its sweeps to find and detain illegal immigrants





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Probly a bad move on O'Muslim's part. He is only drawing attention to sheriff Joe's plight. Which since Joe is in the right, may actually end up helping him out.

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I think it's time Joe challenges Obama to a duel at high noon.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Sheriff Arpaio is refusing to cooperate with a federal investigation, he is refusing to turn over documents, and thats why he is getting sued.

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Sheriff Arpaio is refusing to cooperate with a federal investigation, he is refusing to turn over documents, and thats why he is getting sued.
I guarantee you Arpaio has more supporters than Obama does.


I like the old coot. I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it all plays out. I think Obama comes out looking less intelligent than he already does.
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I guarantee you Arpaio has more supporters than Obama does.


I like the old coot. I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it all plays out. I think Obama comes out looking less intelligent than he already does.
I agree. He's hold the feds feet to the fire and Obama doesn't like being called out.





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He's hold the feds feet to the fire and Obama doesn't like being called out.
Obviously.

Anyone want to know the real reason Obama is suing Arpaio? It's because he's racist.
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Anyone want to know the real reason Obama is suing Arpaio? It's because he's racist.
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I guarantee you Arpaio has more supporters than Obama does.


I like the old coot. I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it all plays out. I think Obama comes out looking less intelligent than he already does.
lawsuits are not about popularity. the real question should be why Arpaio is refusing to turn these documents over, and whats in them?

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lawsuits are not about popularity. the real question should be why Arpaio is refusing to turn these documents over, and whats in them?
I'd tell Obama to fuck himself. We all know you'd bend right over and let him stick it in your ass without so much as a reach around. No need to publicize it further.


Where in the Constitution does it say that Arpaio must cooperate with investigations? You go ahead and find that, and I'll change my mind. The Feds don't have a leg to stand on. Arpaio isn't doing anything wrong by refusing to cooperate. That's why pussy ass Obama is suing him. If he had any leg to stand on, they'd be arresting him, not suing him.
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lawsuits are not about popularity. the real question should be why Arpaio is refusing to turn these documents over, and whats in them?
most likely because obama won't turn over his real birth certificate.eye for an eye!

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Arpaio told the Arizona Republic that he thought the lawsuit was "camouflage" for a federal attempt to curtail his anti-illegal immigration sweeps in mostly Latino communities. He also said he had begun cooperating with federal authorities and thought they were making headway toward a solution.
Sounds like he was cooperating to me, or do you only believe obama's cohorts?

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Don't mess with Obama. He'll sue! This is like what... the fourth lawsuit he's filed against something he doesn't like? And here I though a prez was supposed to be some kind of leader, and not just a sue happy clown.

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Don't mess with Obama. He'll sue! This is like what... the fourth lawsuit he's filed against something he doesn't like? And here I though a prez was supposed to be some kind of leader, and not just a sue happy clown.
That is what he did prior to his promotion. He was a sue happy, civil rights lawyer.
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Obama and our govt are suing just to intimidate and harass Sheriff Joe, just like they are now doing to the preacher in Florida. Sheriff Joe was on the radio the other night. Every single person that works under him agrees with his methods. He's not doing anything illegal, just controversial. He make inmates sleep outside in tents instead of in their cells. He uses the jail cells as animal shelters.

BTW, if I was the Florida preacher, I'd get on national tv and burn the Koran and let everyone know I am doing it to express my freedom of religion, and to show our govt that they can't intimidate me into not doing it.
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Obama and our govt are suing just to intimidate and harass Sheriff Joe, just like they are now doing to the preacher in Florida. Sheriff Joe was on the radio the other night. Every single person that works under him agrees with his methods. He's not doing anything illegal, just controversial. He make inmates sleep outside in tents instead of in their cells. He uses the jail cells as animal shelters.
My freaking hero. I absolutely hate the way inmates are treated. Way too well. They would be slaves if it were up to me, forced into hard manual labor to pay for their stay, and a little profit for the state. Then they could tax us a little less. If this was how it was, you'd see the crime rate take an extremely sharp decline and never rise back up. Why? Because of the type of people you are dealing with. They detest an honest day's work more than anything else. It has nothing but benefits, this idea.


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BTW, if I was the Florida preacher, I'd get on national tv and burn the Koran and let everyone know I am doing it to express my freedom of religion, and to show our govt that they can't intimidate me into not doing it.
Great idea. They get to burn flags and anything else they want to. And we do have freedom of religion here.

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BTW, if I was the Florida preacher, I'd get on national tv and burn the Koran and let everyone know I am doing it to express my freedom of religion, and to show our govt that they can't intimidate me into not doing it.
Why do people keep calling it "The Koran?" It's just "a Koran" in my opinion. Oh noes! Somebody burnt a book. Same thing with people burning bibles. Who gives a shit. It's just a book. How does burning the most published book in the world affect anybodies religious faith?
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My freaking hero. I absolutely hate the way inmates are treated. Way too well. They would be slaves if it were up to me, forced into hard manual labor to pay for their stay, and a little profit for the state. Then they could tax us a little less. If this was how it was, you'd see the crime rate take an extremely sharp decline and never rise back up. Why? Because of the type of people you are dealing with. They detest an honest day's work more than anything else. It has nothing but benefits, this idea.
His reasoning for making them sleep in tents is that if it's good enough for our soldiers who are dieing for our country, it's certainly good enough for criminals.
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His reasoning for making them sleep in tents is that if it's good enough for our soldiers who are dieing for our country, it's certainly good enough for criminals.
This guy should run for a higher office. He'd likely win, especially in these times.

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