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The president's top counterterrorism adviser on Wednesday called jihad a "legitimate tenet of Islam," arguing that the term "jihadists" should not be used to describe America's enemies.

During a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, John Brennan described violent extremists as victims of "political, economic and social forces," but said that those plotting attacks on the United States should not be described in "religious terms."

He repeated the administration argument that the enemy is not "terrorism," because terrorism is a "tactic," and not terror, because terror is a "state of mind" -- though Brennan's title, deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism and homeland security, includes the word "terrorism" in it. But then Brennan said that the word "jihad" should not be applied either.

"Nor do we describe our enemy as 'jihadists' or 'Islamists' because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one's community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children," Brennan said.


The technical, broadest definition of jihad is a "struggle" in the name of Islam and the term does not connote "holy war" for all Muslims. However, jihad frequently connotes images of military combat or warfare, and some of the world's most wanted terrorists including Usama bin Laden commonly use the word to call for war against the West.

Brennan defined the enemy as members of bin Laden's Al Qaeda network and "its terrorist affiliates."

But Brennan argued that it would be "counterproductive" for the United States to use the term, as it would "play into the false perception" that the "murderers" leading war against the West are doing so in the name of a "holy cause."

"Moreover, describing our enemy in religious terms would lend credence to the lie propagated by Al Qaeda and its affiliates to justify terrorism -- that the United States is somehow at war against Islam," he said.

The comment comes after Brennan, in a February speech in which he described his respect for the tolerance and devotion of Middle Eastern nations, referred to Jerusalem on first reference by its Arabic name, Al-Quds.

"In all my travels the city I have come to love most is al-Quds, Jerusalem, where three great faiths come together," Brennan said at an event co-sponsored by the White House Office of Public Engagement and the Islamic Center at New York University and the Islamic Law Students Association at NYU.
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Just something else that backs up my theory that the downfall of this country will be largely attributed to this pile of bullshit we call "political correctness". God forbid we insult our enemies.

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Just something else that backs up my theory that the downfall of this country will be largely attributed to this pile of bullshit we call "political correctness". God forbid we insult our enemies.

When are people going to realize that we are sacrificing our future in the name of PC?
i agree with this post 100%.

has anyone ever been to the WWII museum in New Orleans? Its awesome...one corridor has posters of the war propaganda from the Americans, Germans and Japanese...when this country was actually full of pride it was ok to depict Germans as evil devils and Japs as slant eyed freaks.

now we cant even kill our enemies without our soldiers and Marines going to trial for it. this country has gotten so weak...why hasnt someone gone ahead and invaded? oh wait the invasion has started...

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i agree with this post 100%.

has anyone ever been to the WWII museum in New Orleans? Its awesome...one corridor has posters of the war propaganda from the Americans, Germans and Japanese...when this country was actually full of pride it was ok to depict Germans as evil devils and Japs as slant eyed freaks.

now we cant even kill our enemies without our soldiers and Marines going to trial for it. this country has gotten so weak...why hasnt someone gone ahead and invaded? oh wait the invasion has started...
Yeah, it really is sad isn't it? I actually have a great deal of concern about this and it just adds to my normal day to day stress because I just can't get over how this country has changed, and it actually is a cause of stress for me everyday.

I mean, think about how we were in WWII. We were in a depression going into the war and WWII actually jump started our economy. Tons of jobs were created even in the private sector (wonder why no one made cars from 41-45? because they were making war machines, Ford, GM and so on....) and we emerged as the largest super power in the world.

When the citizens and the economy were truly involved in war, our economy was booming. Not to mention that people had morals.

The American spirit was to just get it done at all cost and we ended up at the highest point in our history because of that attitude. And now we are on a downward spiral.

Sometime I feel as if I was born 60 years too late. There is a reason for the term "Greatest Generation."

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Yeah, it really is sad isn't it? I actually have a great deal of concern about this and it just adds to my normal day to day stress because I just can't get over how this country has changed, and it actually is a cause of stress for me everyday.

I mean, think about how we were in WWII. We were in a depression going into the war and WWII actually jump started our economy. Tons of jobs were created even in the private sector (wonder why no one made cars from 41-45? because they were making war machines, Ford, GM and so on....) and we emerged as the largest super power in the world.

When the citizens and the economy were truly involved in war, our economy was booming. Not to mention that people had morals.

The American spirit was to just get it done at all cost and we ended up at the highest point in our history because of that attitude. And now we are on a downward spiral.

Sometime I feel as if I was born 60 years too late. There is a reason for the term "Greatest Generation."
youre correct this country was truly united to achieve a common goal, which was defeating the enemy at any cost. there was no time for political correctness or any other nonsense like that. did anyone worry or care about offending German Americans or Japanese Americans with our posters? nope. fuck em. we put japanese people in camps to keep an eye on them. why? because we had no way of knowing how many were actually spies or domestic terrorists here to carry out attacks on our own soil. so the rights of a few thousand people were inconvienced for a little while...it was necessary to protect the people.
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No big deal......I shall continue to refer to them as "those fuckin sandniggers".

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I give dirty looks to the ones at the mall lol. Which I always hope that they interpret as "Go home dune coon"

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No big deal......I shall continue to refer to them as "those fuckin sandniggers".

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