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Calderon urges U.S. to reinstate assault weapons ban

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Is it me or does it make more sense if we both just controlled our borders better?

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(Reuters) - Mexican President Felipe Calderon urged the U.S. Congress on Thursday to reinstate a ban on assault weapons to help cut cross-border gun smuggling and reduce drug gang violence for its southern neighbor.

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In a speech to a joint session of Congress, Calderon described efforts to fight organized crime in Mexico, where 23,000 people have been killed in drug violence since he came to power in late 2006 and launched an army offensive.

Washington is also aiding Mexico's battle against drug gangs with a 2007 pledge of $1.4 billion for equipment and police training to help fight the cartels that ship some $40 billion worth of illegal drugs north each year.

The drug violence has become a major political test for Calderon and a growing worry for Washington and foreign investors as violence has spread across the southwest border.

"There is one issue where Mexico needs your cooperation. And that is stopping the flow of assault weapons and other deadly arms across the border," Calderon said to a standing ovation from U.S. lawmakers.

Calderon said the increase in violence in Mexico had coincided with the 2004 lifting of a U.S. assault weapons ban.

The 10-year ban on the sale of assault weapons to civilians expired without being extended by Congress. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said the administration favors reinstituting the ban, though guns rights groups oppose it.

Calderon said he respects Americans' Second Amendment right to bear arms but said many of the guns are getting into the hands of criminals.

SEIZING GUNS

Mexico has seized around 75,000 guns and assault weapons in the last three years, Calderon said. He said more than 80 percent of them came from the United States and noted there were more than 7,000 gun shops along the border.

"I would ask Congress to help us, with respect, and to understand how important it is for us that you enforce current laws to stem the supply of these weapons to criminals and consider reinstating the assault weapons ban," he said.

Though Calderon's request received applause and a standing ovation from mainly Democratic lawmakers, Republicans criticized the Mexican leader for discussing U.S. laws.

"It was inappropriate for President Calderon to lecture Americans on our own state and federal laws," said Senator John Cornyn, a member of the Republican leadership. "Moreover, the Second Amendment is not a subject open for diplomatic negotiation, with Mexico or any other nation."

On immigration -- a common theme during his visit to Washington -- Calderon said his country was trying to improve economic conditions so Mexicans would not feel the need to leave their country in order to succeed.

He said Mexico expected more than 4 percent growth this year, even though data released on Thursday showed the economy shrank quarter-on-quarter in the first quarter of this year.

Millions of people are still crossing the U.S. border illegally to seek work. An estimated 10.8 million illegal immigrants live in the United States, most of them from Mexico and Central America.

Calderon repeated his opposition to a new Arizona law that requires police to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect is in the country illegally.

"We must find together a better way to face and fix this common problem," he said.

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Yeah, we're completely nuts thinking Obama doesn't want our weapons
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How about he concentrates on his own POS country and leaves us alone. Everyone wants to blame the states for everything. Maybe if it did not suck so bad there (Mexico), everyone wouldn't want to leave. GO BACK HOME AND DO YOUR JOB!

Also, our president should support people in the US that want to keep people that are not supposed to be here out. They are unsafe and breaking the law. Instead, he acts like a jackass and starts pointing fingers like he always does and does the exact opposite of the right thing. How about support for the home team people.

Yes, we should control our borders better.

IMHO, I cannot afford them or want them here. Come over legally, that is a different story.
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Yeah, we're completely nuts thinking Obama doesn't want our weapons
Yes and our paycheck and our medical records and eventually we will be owned.
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How the fuck does the president of Mexico come to OUR country and try to tell us how to run it when it comes to immigrents and WEAPONS and then gets a fucking standing ovation from OUR congress!???? What the fuck man. What the hell is going on around here these days? This stuff is driving me nuts. Every fuckhead that stood and applauded should be immidiatley fired.

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How the fuck does the president of Mexico come to OUR country and try to tell us how to run it when it comes to immigrents and WEAPONS and then gets a fucking standing ovation from OUR congress!???? What the fuck man. What the hell is going on around here these days? This stuff is driving me nuts. Every fuckhead that stood and applauded should be immidiatley fired.
Some of that will happen in November.
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obama can pack up his administration and move to fucking mexico.and if he doesn;t like that he can keep travelling south until he gets to kenya.



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at a bar-b-que everyone is drinking and having a good time when out of know where someone with a baseball bat walks up and hits your wife across the head with a full swing.and you as the husband don't do shit about it.in fact you asked the guy to come to the party and do it.

basically this is my veiw of what happened!

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How the fuck does the president of Mexico come to OUR country and try to tell us how to run it when it comes to immigrents and WEAPONS and then gets a fucking standing ovation from OUR congress!???? What the fuck man. What the hell is going on around here these days? This stuff is driving me nuts. Every fuckhead that stood and applauded should be immidiatley fired.
I seriously do not understand either. We dont need a ban on guns we need a ban on ignorant fucks in our congress. Calderon cant run his own country worth a damn why is he making suggestions for us? Im sure the 23000 dead people really appreciate Mr. Calderons suggestions

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That guy needs to be taken out...


...for a cerveza.

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...for a cerveza.
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...for a cerveza.
and then taken out.

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1/19/09, the last day of Free America.
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Above and beyong the constitution the fundamental problem with banning guns is that it won't work.

Several years ago before I understood much of anything, I understood the thought behind banning guns.

Now, that I'm a little older and understand things a little better - I get it. It's pointless to ban guns, because it would not stop shit from happening. All it would do is screw a percentage of law abiding citizens.

I'm especially against banning weapons for another country.

Mexican Prez:
"Let see, we no want you to have guns! ...
We now scare of Army of yours, disband! ...
Air Force too! ...
Navy, Marines ! ...
Ehhh...get rid of the Texans too! ...

I think we can take Oklahoma and the rest! INVADE!"

Screw another country that dictates our internal laws. If they want to dictate law to us, they would need to invade and occupy us.

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The part that got me was the jackass was putting down our laws. And the new immigration law in Arizona. Look up Mexico's immigration laws.

I wounder what he would think if we implemented his (Mexico's) immigrations laws here.



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The part that got me was the jackass was putting down our laws. And the new immigration law in Arizona. Look up Mexico's immigration laws.

I wounder what he would think if we implemented his (Mexico's) immigrations laws here.
Or his interview with CNN. Where he tells the reporter, if he finds illegals in his country what does he do? "We send them back".

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Some of that will happen in November.
It wont come soon enough man. Honestly I think we need to get rid of every politician right now and start all over, that would be the best thing we could do for our country.

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I seriously do not understand either. We dont need a ban on guns we need a ban on ignorant fucks in our congress. Calderon cant run his own country worth a damn why is he making suggestions for us? Im sure the 23000 dead people really appreciate Mr. Calderons suggestions.
Yeah, as many innocent dead along his border towns you would think he would spend some of this time worrying about how to run his own country before giving his faggot opinion on ours. If he would stop making millionaires out of drug runners and corrupt politicans in Mexico then both countries would have alot of problems solved.

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obama can pack up his administration and move to fucking mexico.and if he doesn;t like that he can keep travelling south until he gets to kenya.
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I still don't understand why we don't just take Mexico over.

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I still don't understand why we don't just take Mexico over.
We don't want a welfare state.

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