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Is a fucking retard. He is obviously blind and doesn't realize the backing of the my avatar is the obama slogan. The little bitch sent me a PM, attached Chris and Jose as to get me in trouble. Look deeper Maston, realize the message the avatar is trying to say. Learn your history, look at what Hitler did and the parallels that can be drawn to obama.

See stupid.


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Dude, please for the love of all things good and Holy, remove the swastika from your avatar.

I feel I must remind you of the historical significance of and how associating America with the swastika is so completely despicable and disrespectful to Americans past.

By putting red, white, and blue to the swastika you are disrespecting the 416,800 United States soldiers that died to end Nazism, along with the other 580,351 British and 10,705,345 Soviet Allies that died for the cause. That is well over 11 MILLION lives that ended in the fight to destroy Nazism.

Not to mention all the innocents: 5.9 Million Jews, 2-3 Million Soviet POW’s, 1.8-2 Million Ethnic Poles, 220,000-1.5 Million Romani, 250,000 Disabled, 80,000 Freemasons, 10,000 homosexuals, and 5,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses that were systematically massacred during the Holocaust all in the Name of Nazism.

Please, DO NOT associate America WITH THAT!!!

I know why you are doing it, because you believe that Obama is leading our country into socialism. You can make any other representation of Obama as a Socialist, however using the Nazi Swastika in your 90x90 pixel representation of your belief couldn't be more wrong.

The swastika is not the "international symbol" of socialism. The Red Flag is the international symbol of socialism (which is quite ironic considering Republican states are considered "red states")

Even though I think you're suffering from self-inflicted DFWStangs extremist paranoia, you need to stop being such a reactionist.

And please remove the swastika from your avatar.

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So photoshop it on the side of a GN. lol

maybe put a Soviet emblem or Imperial Japanese. people seem less offended by those.

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Learn History???

This is fucking hilarious. YOU telling ME to learn history.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi:
"It was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and anti-Semitism. Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics."

I think you are getting Nazism confused with Socialism. Which if you are trying to say that Obama is taking this country to a Socialist state, I agree with you. BUT using the SWASTIKA couldn't be more historically incorrect, if that is indeed what you are trying to say.

Please remove your foot from your mouth.
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Looks like Maston has sand in his vagina yet again.


Hey Maston, go play in the highway. Your parents don't even want your sorry ass.
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Looks like Maston has sand in his vagina yet again.


Hey Maston, go play in the highway. Your parents don't even want your sorry ass.
Funny how everytime I prove someone wrong, that's all you can come up with. Good job at being worthless.
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Funny how everytime I prove someone wrong, that's all you can come up with. Good job at being worthless.

You haven't proved anything, or anyone wrong. Ever. Seriously.


In fact, the only thing you've ever proved at all, is that women hate you, you're a socially awkward douchenozzle, and that you like to cry like a sniveling bitch when you get drunk. And you want to tell me "good job at being worthless"? You looked in the mirror lately, sissy?
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Funny how everytime I prove someone wrong, that's all you can come up with. Good job at being worthless.
Good job at crying like a bitch.


Get the fuck over it already.
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You quote wikipedia as your source you fucking walking abortion?!

And...in regards to your fascism pm, here is the definition
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1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
How is that a right wing ideal? Explain. Seems to me to be exactly what your vaunted leader is trying to do to this country. Notice how he wants total power? Notice how he seeks control? I think obama is using socialist ideas to force feed us his version of nazism. He's warping everything for one end game - total control and redistribution over wealth so that we are all poor.

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Funny how everytime I prove someone wrong, that's all you can come up with. Good job at being worthless.
Prove me wrong?! Where? You've missed the hidden meaning and obvious irony of the avatar. You assume I'm associating America with natzees. Not true, I'm associating an unamerican president with the ideals of Nazism. Both of which are shit.


Come on Maston, step into the train car, I promise you'll be reunited with your family when you get to the camps, right after the shower.

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Learn History???

This is fucking hilarious. YOU telling ME to learn history.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi:
"It was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and anti-Semitism. Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics."

I think you are getting Nazism confused with Socialism. Which if you are trying to say that Obama is taking this country to a Socialist state, I agree with you. BUT using the SWASTIKA couldn't be more historically incorrect, if that is indeed what you are trying to say.

Please remove your foot from your mouth.


Main Entry: Na·zi
Pronunciation: \ˈnät-sē, ˈnat-\
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Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist
Date: 1930
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler
2 often not capitalized a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person
— nazi adjective often capitalized
— na·zi·fi·ca·tion \ˌnät-si-fə-ˈkā-shən, ˌnat-\ noun often capitalized
— na·zi·fy \ˈnät-si-ˌfī, ˈnat-\ transitive verb often capitalized


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Weird .... it seems like Sean might be on to something.
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But I need to relearn my history...because Who Needs reality says so!

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Seems to me to be exactly what your vaunted leader is trying to do to this country.
a.) OBAMA IS A DOUCHE!!!!

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b.) Yes

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I think obama is using socialist ideas . . . .
d.) I AGREE AND HE'S A DOUCHE FOR IT!!!

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. . . . . to force feed us his version of nazism.
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WHOA, that's where you are wrong. That's all I'm Saying.

Allen is correct in saying to maybe put a Soviet emblem because that is more historically correct than using Nazism to make your point. Put Obama images behind a Hammer and Sickle.

You're using Nazism to get a reaction out of people, not because it is correct.
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Main Entry: Na·zi
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2 often not capitalized a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person
— nazi adjective often capitalized
— na·zi·fi·ca·tion \ˌnät-si-fə-ˈkā-shən, ˌnat-\ noun often capitalized
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Weird .... it seems like Sean might be on to something.
HOLY CRAP DUDE.

You do realize that by putting a Nationalist (EXTREME RIGHT) and Socialist (EXTREME LEFT) together does not make it Socialist!!!!!!

3-1 doesn't equal 1 or 3


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a.) OBAMA IS A DOUCHE!!!!



b.) Yes



c.) Yes



d.) I AGREE AND HE'S A DOUCHE FOR IT!!!



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WHOA, that's where you are wrong. That's all I'm Saying.

Allen is correct in saying to maybe put a Soviet emblem because that is more historically correct that using Nazism to make your point. Put Obama images behind a Hammer and Sickle.

You're using Nazism to get a reaction out of people, not because it is correct.

How am I wrong? He just hasn't found the group to rally the country around exterminating.

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How am I wrong? He just hasn't found the group to rally the country around exterminating.
Dude . . . You seriously believe that. NO BS. You actually do believe that Obama wants that????
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Dude . . . You seriously believe that. NO BS. You actually do believe that Obama wants that????
I believe that obama wants power and will do whatever he has to do to get it and keep it. His blatant disregard for the will of the American people and desire to force HIS agenda through, regardless of collateral damage is pretty telling of his intentions. Look for him to start wearing a crown.

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HOLY CRAP DUDE.

You do realize that by putting a Nationalist (EXTREME RIGHT) and Socialist (EXTREME LEFT) together does not make it Socialist!!!!!!

3-1 doesn't equal 1 or 3

Nationalism is not a right wing movement, clown. It is certainly possible to have a leftist nationalist movement, like what Lenin advocated. You might want to educate yourself.

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I learned along time ago that Sean88gt generally has the right thought process, at least along mine. However, I don't always agree with his way of . . . . voicing it, visualizing it...etc.

Really does not matter anyway. Even if he did straight up do something totally wrong in regards to disrespecting the US - it is his choice. No one has to like it.

However, from what I can tell his heart is in the right place anyway. He's just really a grumpy person.

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Nationalism is not a right wing movement, clown. It is certainly possible to have a leftist nationalist movement, like what Lenin advocated. You might want to educate yourself.
Damn it, Al.

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nationalism Ideology according to which all people owe a supreme loyalty to their nation and which holds that each nation should be embodied in a separate state. Nationalist sentiment, drawing upon and extolling a common culture, language and history, can be a powerful unifying force. With the possible exception of national independence movements against colonialism and imperialism, nationalism is essentially conservative.
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The radical Right groups share few opinions other than extreme nationalism, nativism, and a tendency to spin conspiratorial theories. The John Birch Society, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-fascists, and militia groups are a few representative examples. Most oppose immigration and are racialists such as Jean-Marie Le Pen’s Front National movement in France. Others, such as the Ku Klux Klan, White Peoples Party, and neo-Nazis, are overtly racist.
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That's the last thing I'd expect on this site. If you don't like someones avatar how about you just don't look at it.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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I learned along time ago that Sean88gt generally has the right thought process, at least along mine. However, I don't always agree with his way of . . . . voicing it, visualizing it...etc.

Really does not matter anyway. Even if he did straight up do something totally wrong in regards to disrespecting the US - it is his choice. No one has to like it.

However, from what I can tell his heart is in the right place anyway. He's just really a grumpy person.
My way is the right way. Not grumpy at all, just on point. Why beat around the bush when you can take a tank right over it?

Maston was able to bitch, stop free expression. Maybe I should get a picture of him wearing a brown suit?

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That's the last thing I'd expect on this site. If you don't like someones avatar how about you just don't look at it.
He has thin skin and assumes that he has the right not to be offended or challenged.

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He has thin skin and assumes that he has the right not to be offended or challenged.
He's a prime example of today's society, and what's wrong with it.
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He has thin skin and assumes that he has the right not to be offended or challenged.
There's only one thing that I am truely offended by on this site, when someone posts a swastika. It's really that simple.
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There's only one thing that I am truely offended by on this site, when someone posts a swastika. It's really that simple.
Offense is the problem of the person who takes it, ie, you!

You don't have a right to not be offended, it's a choice, a decision that comes with maturity. You're going backwards.

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You don't have a right to not be offended, it's a choice, a decision that comes with maturity. You're going backwards.
Actually, you're the one going backwards by either not knowing correct History or just being obliviant to it. The Nazi swastika is a sign of hatred and Mass Murder. There is no place for it on this site, that is until people like you really do turn it into the KKKStangs.


BTW while we're on the subject of being offended: As much as I am anti-racist, I do not consider the Confederate Battle Flag to be a icon of racism. It's a part of American History, nothing else.
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Sean88gt, why did you remove it?
It is your right to display it, whether someone likes it or not.
I for one say display it and do it proudly, as soon as I find on
with Gov. Jan Brewer on it I will be doing the same thing.
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I for one say display it and do it proudly, as soon as I find one with Gov. Jan Brewer on it I will be doing the same thing.
NOW, THAT would be more historically correct.

The thing is by saying that, you must be Liberal.
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Actually, you're the one going backwards by either not knowing correct History or just being obliviant to it. The Nazi swastika is a sign of hatred and Mass Murder. There is no place for it on this site, that is until people like you really do turn it into the KKKStangs.


BTW while we're on the subject of being offended: As much as I am anti-racist, I do not consider the Confederate Battle Flag to be a icon of racism. It's a part of American History, nothing else.
Are you obliviant (sic) to spelling? And the swastika pre-dates Germany by hundreds of years. Hitler took the symbol, angled it and said it was the symbol of the master race that was progressing and moving forward. LEARN history. You're assigning the racial connotations to it. Again, you aren't hearing what it is saying. Obama is a power-hungry megalomaniac.

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Sean88gt, why did you remove it?
It is your right to display it, whether someone likes it or not.
I for one say display it and do it proudly, as soon as I find on
with Gov. Jan Brewer on it I will be doing the same thing.
I was asked by a higher power to do so.

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NOW, THAT would be more historically correct.

The thing is by saying that, you must be Liberal.
You truly have a perverted understanding of history.

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I think we should all use Sean's previous avatar in protest of Who Needs a Tampon's "victory".

You can argue that Nationalist is conservative all day long, but just because you add Socialist to it, doesn't cause it to continually use conservative aspects.

3+1 does not equal 3 nor 1.

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And the swastika pre-dates Germany by hundreds of years.
Agree

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Hitler took the symbol, angled it and said it was the symbol of the master race that was progressing and moving forward.
Is that not the symbol you used?

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LEARN history.
Real History, or your version of it? I think I've proved again and again in this post that I know history, unless your now going to say the World Encyclopedia is not a reputable source in order to make yourself feel better about being wrong. I haven't seen you prove any of your knowledge of history with sources.

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You're assigning the racial connotations to it.
No, they were already there. Which you actually just proved when you said that Hitler changed by angling it and "saying it was a symbol of the master race".

So which is the symbol you used? The pre-Nazi swastika that has no racial connotations to it, or the Nazi swastika that DOES have racial cannotations as the symbol of Hitler's "Master Race"?

Answer: Nazi Swastika
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You truly have a perverted understanding of history.
If you believe that, you must have no idea what the Arizona bill on immigration says.
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I think we should all use Sean's previous avatar in protest of Who Needs a Tampon's "victory".
There's a reason why the "higher ups" told him to take it off.
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If you believe that, you must have no idea what the Arizona bill on immigration says.
I've read it. It enforces existing laws for dealing with people that are here illegally.

Hitler on the other hand dealt with people that were there legally and used race, not because he was a racist per se, but to further his agenda and give the citizens a rallying point that could become a polarizing flash point.

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If you believe that, you must have no idea what the Arizona bill on immigration says.
Have you read it?

http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF

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There's a reason why the "higher ups" told him to take it off.
Yup, because you were crying like a little bitch to them.

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You haven't proved anything, or anyone wrong. Ever. Seriously.


In fact, the only thing you've ever proved at all, is that women hate you, you're a socially awkward douchenozzle, and that you like to cry like a sniveling bitch when you get drunk. And you want to tell me "good job at being worthless"? You looked in the mirror lately, sissy?
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Look it up in the encyclopedia all you want, there are plenty of nationalist movements that didn't advocate a single conservative idea beyond the unifying of a country. I can name them if you want but I won't waste my time. That idea isn't limited to conservatives, especially when the leftists in question crave power.
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Sean was just wishing Obama luck.

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I've read it. It enforces existing laws for dealing with people that are here illegally.

Hitler on the other hand dealt with people that were there legally and used race, not because he was a racist per se, but to further his agenda and give the citizens a rallying point that could become a polarizing flash point.
The problem with the Arizona law, and ONLY problem I have with it, is the exact verbage that you've most likely over looked.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....ls/sb1070s.htm
I'm refering to "reasonable suspicion" in Sec. 2. Title 11, chapter 7, article 8, sub-article B.

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B. For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person. The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c).
Those two words, "resonable suspicion" make racial profiling legal. Which was what Hitler also did. Hitler made it legal to ask anyone suspected of being Jewish for "papers" to prove someone was Jewish.

Take Jewish out of the last sentence and add Hispanic, and you have the same thing.

I have 100% no problem with the Arizona Bill if they changed it to any person breaking a law whom is NOT a citizen of the United States. Any law from parking to J-walking.
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Sean was just wishing Obama luck.
That is not an approved encyclopedia or wikipedia link.

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That idea isn't limited to conservatives, especially when the leftists in question crave power.
Ok, I'll agree with you when you say it THAT way. But earlier you made a definitive statement that "Nationalism is not a right wing movement".
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After all the shit posted on this site, somebody complains about a swastika? I don't know what's worse: the complaint someone made, or the mods "requesting" it be removed!

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That is not an approved encyclopedia or wikipedia link.
You caught me trying to spread bad information.

I found some appropriate sources (at least by the standards presented in this thread):
Wiki, of course.
White-history.com, just because.

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