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Austin libs in full swing...

Now Austin is "banning" Arizona:

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AUSTIN — The Austin City Council decided on Thursday to end business and travel ties with the state of Arizona to protest a new state law that will allow law enforcement officers there to detain people they suspect are in the country illegally.

There was little discussion before the resolution passed unanimously. Two people showed up to speak in favor of it; none spoke against.
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I seriously hope AZ sticks to its guns on this. If they fold on this, there will NEVER be a legislature with the balls to do it again.
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Maybe we should boycott Austin...
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Oh noes, what will Arizona do without the huge economic benefit of associating with the city of Austin?

Seriously, I wonder what some of these fucking morons are smoking. No one showed up to debate the issue because it is a god damn waste of time.

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Oh noes, what will Arizona do without the huge economic benefit of associating with the city of Austin?

Seriously, I wonder what some of these fucking morons are smoking. No one showed up to debate the issue because it is a god damn waste of time.
No one showed up to debate the issue because Austin is nothing but a bunch of pussy liberals. It's only something like the 3rd most liberal city in America.

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No one showed up to debate the issue because Austin is nothing but a bunch of pussy liberals. It's only something like the 3rd most liberal city in America.
The Austin area is booming with transplants from California. I guess they brought their failed ideas & voting habits with them.
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The Austin area is booming with transplants from California. I guess they brought their failed ideas & voting habits with them.
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I hope that arizona starts their own boycott, and cuts off the water and electricity that they send to california. Tit for tat.
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fuck austin and the hippies that live there. they should take their asses to kalifornia

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San Diego tourism leaders and hoteliers fear they could lose a sizable chunk of business this summer from valued “Zonies” who are so angered by elected leaders’ recent censure of Arizona for its illegal-immigration law that they’re mounting an informal boycott of their own.

The San Diego Convention & Visitors Bureau and several hotels report receiving e-mails and letters from Arizona visitors saying they intend to change their plans to travel here in light of local outcry over their home state’s anti-illegal-immigration stance.

Tourism officials are striking back. In an open letter, they urge Arizona residents to overlook local politics and come to San Diego just as they always have for its mild climate, beaches and attractions. The visitors bureau, in conjunction with the San Diego County Hotel-Motel Association, plans to circulate the letter to media outlets and in advertising this weekend in The Arizona Republic.

The bureau says it has received about 25 to 30 e-mails from Arizona residents reacting to resolutions passed last month by the San Diego City Council and school board, which were little more than symbolic protests aimed at the neighboring state’s lawmakers.

Still struggling from the prolonged economic downturn, San Diego’s visitor industry can ill afford to lose any of the 2 million Arizonans it counts on annually, said ConVis President Joe Terzi.

“We’re in a very tough environment already because of everything else going on, and we don’t need another negative impact to our industry,” Terzi said. “This affects all the hardworking men and women who count on tourism for their livelihoods, so we’re saying, don’t do something that hurts their livelihoods.”

Although the summer months typically are an economic bonanza for the San Diego visitor industry, the recession and continued high unemployment have eaten away at lodging revenue as hotels have steeply discounted rates to fill their rooms. The Convention & Visitors Bureau spent $9 million last year promoting the region for the spring and summer months and is dedicating $7 million toward that effort this year.

“I’ve been approached by a number of hotels who are very concerned because they’ve received cancellations from Arizona guests,” said Namara Mercer, executive director of the county Hotel-Motel Association. “It’s a huge piece of business for not just the hotels but for all of San Diego. Everybody’s excited because they think occupancies will be stronger this summer, and now this.”

In some cases, it appears that Arizona residents misconstrued the votes taken by San Diego’s elected leaders as calls for an actual boycott of Arizona as opposed to statements of opposition.

In one letter received by the Sofia Hotel in downtown San Diego, a “boycott” was cited as the reason for canceling a planned trip to the city.

“Nothing against the Sofia; however, wanted to let you know that we were planning on coming out in August and staying for 10-14 nights,” read the letter. “Since San Diego decided to boycott AZ, we decided to do our part and vacation elsewhere. Really sorry since we truly like staying at your place and will miss it.”

In many of the e-mails to the visitors bureau, Arizonans bluntly expressed their displeasure with San Diego’s stance on the illegal-immigration law and said that staying away was the best way of registering their protest.

“So you see when people in government start to boycott it goes both ways,” said one e-mail. “You just lost our visits to our favorite places in your city and the $3,500 we had in our budget to spend there.”

In a draft letter yet to be approved by visitors bureau and hotel association leaders, Terzi sought to clarify the city’s position on the immigration law while stressing the respect the region has for Arizona’s visitors.

“While immigration is a complex and sensitive issue for our nation, we believe it needs to be addressed independent of actions that would harm our economies and hardworking residents,” states the letter. It implores prospective visitors to “look past the political posturing and make your travel decision for all the right reasons.”

Charles Holladay, manager of the Ramada Plaza in Mission Valley, noted that as much as 50 percent of his summer business originates in Arizona, and he already has received a cancellation from a regular customer.

“I understand the City Council was being passionate about their politics, but I don’t think they thought it through,” Holladay said. “If it negatively impacts hotel revenue, it impacts the transient occupancy tax, and that goes right into the general fund, so they’ll have less money for their programs.”

San Diego Councilwoman Donna Frye said she believes some Arizona residents are acting out of a misunderstanding.

“The City Council did not pass a resolution boycotting Arizona, and I would hope that the good citizens of Arizona understand that and will continue to visit San Diego,” Frye said.

School board President Shelia Jackson said that while she was disappointed to hear of people opting to stay away from San Diego, she doesn’t regret her vote.

“It’s sad that people would cancel their plans to come here in reaction to that, but I still think we did the right thing,” Jackson said. “Certainly, we know how important tourism is to San Diego, and it wasn’t my intent to impact the tourism trade.”
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I'll add austin to the do not deliver list.

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fuck austin and the hippies that live there. they should take their asses to kalifornia
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I love that tear soaked story about San Diego. I only hope that people do the same for San Fagcisco

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I had heard some of this on the local news, but i hadn't heard that san diego stuck their nose into it. Maybe the city council members will consult the tourism people before they do it again next time.

There has already been talk of san diego losing comic con, and pissing off arizona people doesn't help.

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It wasn't all that long ago I got slammed for claiming Austin was a liberal place. LMAO!

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What do the good folks in Aggieland think about this?
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what a bunch of whiney homos!

i really don't understand how they can justify being against it.

murder is illegal...police detain people that they "think" murdered someone...should the world just stop traveling for fear that the police will think that you murdered someone?

arizona is just trying to enforce the law...just like they ask you for your insurance card when they pull you over; you should have to provide some form of id and proof that you're a legal citizen as well. i don't have a problem with it...ask me for whatever you want. hell, i'll start carrying my birth certificate with me if it means that it can help cut down on the illegal immigration problem.

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Why is it that the same people who think we should all be forced to buy health insurance and show papers proving it are against illegal immigrants having to show papers?

This is just another in a long line of liberal hypocrisy.

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Why is it that the same people who think we should all be forced to buy health insurance and show papers proving it are against illegal immigrants having to show papers?

This is just another in a long line of liberal hypocrisy.
Kind of like standing up for the rights of women, minorities and homos and then being against any sort of action against countries that persecute those groups...

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i really don't understand how they can justify being against it.
Easy - liberals go with what they "feel". And they feel that this law somehow discriminates against llegals who, by golly, are just trying to improve their lot in life, and gee whiz, what harm does it do to be a sanctuary city?

Totally ignored are the rampant crimes, the cost of social services, and the cost of the changing power structure. When a state (say, California) is overrun with illegals, the majority has power, and votes fall in line with (in this case) handouts. California is now bankrupt. See the pattern?
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Heard the latest measure being enacted by Arizona? My wife (teacher) was telling me earlier that ONLY American history is now allowed to be taught in schools. NO anti American bullshit, no mexican history, no zimbabwe BS, ONLY American history.


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Buy all the illegals free bus passes to California and Austin. Easy solution.

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NOT Austin bro. That still negatively impacts our states tax load and needlessly burddens our medical system...
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fuck austin and the hippies that live there. they should take their asses to kalifornia
Well fuck you too.

I happen to live in Austin and I am far from a hippie. The US has some of the most lackadaisical immigration "policies" compared to the entire world.

I'm proud to say I live here. Much better than the scum bucket, un american, concrete palace of a city you call home. Saying the Hippies in Austin are the majority is like saying you wear spurs and a cowboy hat while riding your horse to work

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Well fuck you too.

I happen to live in Austin and I am far from a hippie. The US has some of the most lackadaisical immigration "policies" compared to the entire world.

I'm proud to say I live here. Much better than the scum bucket, un american, concrete palace of a city you call home. Saying the Hippies in Austin are the majority is like saying you wear spurs and a cowboy hat while riding your horse to work

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Well fuck you too.

I happen to live in Austin and I am far from a hippie. The US has some of the most lackadaisical immigration "policies" compared to the entire world.

I'm proud to say I live here. Much better than the scum bucket, un american, concrete palace of a city you call home. Saying the Hippies in Austin are the majority is like saying you wear spurs and a cowboy hat while riding your horse to work

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The Austin area is booming with transplants from California. I guess they brought their failed ideas & voting habits with them.
Yes. I visited 3 customers this week, and all 3 were from Cali.


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Well fuck you too.

I happen to live in Austin and I am far from a hippie. The US has some of the most lackadaisical immigration "policies" compared to the entire world.

I'm proud to say I live here. Much better than the scum bucket, un american, concrete palace of a city you call home. Saying the Hippies in Austin are the majority is like saying you wear spurs and a cowboy hat while riding your horse to work

Wake up
I think 98 SNAKE was saying that the hippies/liberals should take their asses to Cali... not the normal citizens/Texans that happen to live in Austin. Just because a city govt does something, does not mean the citizens of the city agree with it. I read somewhere the turnout for city elections is less than 20%...

I live in Austin and disagree with their decision.

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I still think this law will cost the tax payers more then they bargained for. the law is basically a class 1 misdemeanor, that carry's with it a fine of $1000 (the law mentions jail time but does not say exactly how long). the state will have to pay for the defense attorneys as well as the prosecution attorneys in the criminal court. however if the defendant wants to file a civil suit and he can, the law requires the state to fight the suit in civil court. this can easily end up costing $100K in civil attorney fees for the state, and even if the state wins in both civil and criminal court, how are they going to recoup their expenses?

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I still think this law will cost the tax payers more then they bargained for. the law is basically a class 1 misdemeanor, that carry's with it a fine of $1000 (the law mentions jail time but does not say exactly how long). the state will have to pay for the defense attorneys as well as the prosecution attorneys in the criminal court. however if the defendant wants to file a civil suit and he can, the law requires the state to fight the suit in civil court. this can easily end up costing $100K in civil attorney fees for the state, and even if the state wins in both civil and criminal court, how are they going to recoup their expenses?
I have 6 months in jail is the punishment a while back. Not sure if that is true.

While all of what you said is true. You can make the case for a lot of criminal law on the books. Are the costs going to increase all that much? That would take a complete study to determine. That is because the police may pick someone up for asaault and then decide to prosecute them under the immigration law. In that case, what would the incremental difference be between prosecuting under one law or prosecuting under the immigration law.

At the end of the day we are going to have to wait to see what happens with this law. It could work perfectly well or it could be a disaster. All I know is that something needed to be done. Doing nothing hasn't worked all that well.
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I have 6 months in jail is the punishment a while back. Not sure if that is true.

While all of what you said is true. You can make the case for a lot of criminal law on the books. Are the costs going to increase all that much? That would take a complete study to determine. That is because the police may pick someone up for asaault and then decide to prosecute them under the immigration law. In that case, what would the incremental difference be between prosecuting under one law or prosecuting under the immigration law.

At the end of the day we are going to have to wait to see what happens with this law. It could work perfectly well or it could be a disaster. All I know is that something needed to be done. Doing nothing hasn't worked all that well.
but I can not think of a single state law that requires a civil proceeding, in addition to a criminal proceeding. a civil suit can cost 10 times as much as a criminal trial, just to win for the state. and you have to expect that some of those civil suits will side with the plaintiff, because you never know what a jury might say, and that would end up costing the state a few hundred grand (if not a million) more

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Wow, deffinatly won't be stoping in austin ever. Must be Rick Perry nut huggers, We need to vote that pos out too.

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And San Diego can suck it, I just wont visit cali at all imo.

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Dallas is trying also! I may just move to arizona, hell.

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im from austin but it has changed into california part b.

they ruined my home town.i fucking hate libs.


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Uh, I don't think any Libs are hanging from Perry's nutz. Now, Bill White's, yes.
Why would you say that? If they pay attention to his actions they can see that he is one of them.

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i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


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- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
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