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Illinois Republicans at fault for budget mess

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A top house democrat today pointed the finger at the minority Republicans who will not agree to a tax increase to raise revenue to help resolve the $13 billion deficit and will not support a plan to borrow nearly $4 billion to help pay overdue bills in the near term.
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"They have the votes to pass that revenue package if they want to," said Senate Minority Leader and Republican Christine Radogno. "So if they believe that's what the answer is, they should go ahead and do it."

House Speaker Michael Madigan is holding firm to his belief that a fall political disaster would follow if his Democrats stood alone for higher taxes. He wants Republicans on the bill. Democratic Governor Pat Quinn disagrees.
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What the fuck. I guess I should expect all politicians to be spineless cowards by now. They disgust me. If they think its the right thing to do, then you don't stop just because you don't want to be the only one who gets in trouble.

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If I were a republican politician and wanted another chance to stay in office, I would NOT vote for ANY spending or democrat-led bills, period. Let those bastards own all that crap, because in November, it's payback time.

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If I were a republican politician and wanted another chance to stay in office, I would NOT vote for ANY spending or democrat-led bills, period. Let those bastards own all that crap, because in November, it's payback time.
That's essentially what the article says. The republicans are NOT voting for tax increases and a new loan. Dems are saying the republicans are to blame for not helping the state in a financial crisis. Republicans are saying, you don't need us to pass it. Go ahead, put your money where your mouth is (so to speak).

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If I were a republican politician and wanted another chance to stay in office, I would NOT vote for ANY spending or democrat-led bills, period. Let those bastards own all that crap, because in November, it's payback time.
This is the issue with both sides of the table: it's about political infighting and not about what's best for the citizens. I'm not saying that this bill is what's best, but come up with a better reason than "No, I'm not supporting the Dems" for Christ's fucking sake.

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This is the issue with both sides of the table: it's about political infighting and not about what's best for the citizens. I'm not saying that this bill is what's best, but come up with a better reason than "No, I'm not supporting the Dems" for Christ's fucking sake.
You are looking at this all wrong.

I'm my opinion the Dems know they have sunk themselves in Illinois just like everywhere else. Now they want the Republicans to join in on voting for something to drag the Reuplicans down with them. If they truly are the majority and have the votes then they are the only ones to blame for not passing the bill. Of course, they then have to take credit for passing it, which is the real problem here.

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House Speaker Michael Madigan is holding firm to his belief that a fall political disaster would follow if his Democrats stood alone for higher taxes.
This says it all. They know their days are numbered and don't want to be held responsible for their own actions.

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Come nov dem's will still control the senate and you will still being whining

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Come nov dem's will still control the senate and you will still being whining
Maybe the senate...
Nixon didn't offer "nationalized health-care". Quit reading all your leftisit horeshit. He "offered" an extension of medicaid that would be "subsidized". The reason the dems didn't like it, was because even they knew there was nothing to it.

I have to remind myself how grateful this nation was for Nixon. After all, Kennedy drug us into Viet Nam, followed by LBJ, who escalated it 10-fold. Finally, after 65,000 Americans died, NIXON, a REPUBLICAN, pulls the country out!

Wasn't Obozo going to end the Iraq war? Oopsy! He added another war!

As long as you defend this clown, you're on the losing end, buddy.

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Maybe the senate...
Nixon didn't offer "nationalized health-care". Quit reading all your leftisit horeshit. He "offered" an extension of medicaid that would be "subsidized". The reason the dems didn't like it, was because even they knew there was nothing to it.

I have to remind myself how grateful this nation was for Nixon. After all, Kennedy drug us into Viet Nam, followed by LBJ, who escalated it 10-fold. Finally, after 65,000 Americans died, NIXON, a REPUBLICAN, pulls the country out!

Wasn't Obozo going to end the Iraq war? Oopsy! He added another war!

As long as you defend this clown, you're on the losing end, buddy.


My your memory is poor.


Nixon’s Plan for Universal Health Care
By the time of President Richard Nixon’s election to office, the debate over health care had once again resurfaced. In the same vein as Teddy Roosevelt’s proposed “Square Deal”, which had first broached national health insurance as a political topic in 1912, Nixon proposed a plan that would provide health insurance for all Americans. Similar to the situation faced by President Johnson, partisan opposition to Nixon's policies was firmly entrenched. In this instance, few were prepared to label the renowned anti-communist president as an advocate for socialism. Instead his opponents, such as Senator Edward “Teddy” Kennedy of Massachusetts, attacked Nixon on the grounds that he was offering a deal that would see the insurance companies benefit.

Nixon, for his part, was stalwart in his belief that a national health insurance plan was vital to the country’s future. He stated in his 1974 State of the Union Address that “The time is at hand this year to bring comprehensive, high quality health care within the reach of every American.” Nixon’s own past experience with poverty and family illness made this a personal issue for the President. Yet Nixon’s call for an employer mandate to provide health insurance as part of his planned universal health care coverage for all citizens was seen as inadequate by many democrats in congress. The plan was also opposed by powerful unions such as the AFL-CIO and the United Autoworkers, who lobbied hard to defeat the legislation.






At least obozo is in the right country.

Your man wasted 2 trillion in iraq when NONE OF THE 9/11 TERRORISTS WERE EVEN FROM THERE!

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At least obozo is in the right country.

Your man wasted 2 trillion in iraq when NONE OF THE 9/11 TERRORISTS WERE EVEN FROM THERE!
Obozo has spent more than that in 16 months on NOTHING!

At least the entire house and senate agreed with the administration about Iraq.

Did you accept my bet, bigmouth? You popped off in another thread about a bet concerning November. I never heard from you.

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Nixon’s Plan for Universal Health Care
By the time of President Richard Nixon’s election to office, the debate over health care had once again resurfaced. In the same vein as Teddy Roosevelt’s proposed “Square Deal”, which had first broached national health insurance as a political topic in 1912, Nixon proposed a plan that would provide health insurance for all Americans. Similar to the situation faced by President Johnson, partisan opposition to Nixon's policies was firmly entrenched. In this instance, few were prepared to label the renowned anti-communist president as an advocate for socialism. Instead his opponents, such as Senator Edward “Teddy” Kennedy of Massachusetts, attacked Nixon on the grounds that he was offering a deal that would see the insurance companies benefit.

Nixon, for his part, was stalwart in his belief that a national health insurance plan was vital to the country’s future. He stated in his 1974 State of the Union Address that “The time is at hand this year to bring comprehensive, high quality health care within the reach of every American.” Nixon’s own past experience with poverty and family illness made this a personal issue for the President. Yet Nixon’s call for an employer mandate to provide health insurance as part of his planned universal health care coverage for all citizens was seen as inadequate by many democrats in congress. The plan was also opposed by powerful unions such as the AFL-CIO and the United Autoworkers, who lobbied hard to defeat the legislation.






At least obozo is in the right country.

Your man wasted 2 trillion in iraq when NONE OF THE 9/11 TERRORISTS WERE EVEN FROM THERE!
Did you read where it was "inadequate" by many democrats? It was a joke...

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Did you read where it was "inadequate" by many democrats? It was a joke...

I guess you missed my sarcasm about partisan bullshit getting in the way.

The point remains the republicans tried for socialistic healthcare in 1974 and thought nothing of it then.

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So let me get this right, it was socialized medicine in every sense of the word but the Dems and the unions were against it?

That is hilarious that anyone would think that. It either wasn't truly socialized medicine or the Dems and unions back then were conservative. We know which one of those is true and which is not.

Of course this is bullshit, errrr I mean bullet we are talking about. lmao at fagboy
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