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What Does It Take For Gas To Drop?

oil is $10/bbl lower than it was a short while back and gas prices seem like they're going up. is this whole oil spill thing propping up gas prices? i bet that the oil companies are loving this! low priced oil and high priced gas = tons of profit. hell, diesel is over $3/gallon at several places...

i guess it takes a discovery of unlimited supplies of oil directly under all of the refineries to actually get the gas prices to drop...
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yeah since it was only $4 a gallon with bush in the white house.....
Economy was a helluva lot stronger then as well. Not saying Bush was great, but this bag of shit is a fool and couldn't figure his way out of a personal financial crisis, let along a country/global one.

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yeah since it was only $4 a gallon with bush in the white house.....
Umm, it was below $1.75 right before he left.

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What will it take? About 4 more months of getting raped at the pumps. It's a historical cycle. People are used to $3 a gallon in the summer now so that's where fuel prices end up. Barring any terrorist actions or natural disasters prices will peak on July 4th weekend and gradually taper off.

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Umm, it was below $1.75 right before he left.

Or are you blaming the fucking hurricane in Louisiana that disrupted production on Bush?


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all im saying is that people are quick to blame obama for shit. im not a fan of obamacare, but we suffered $4 gas for a while during bush's and there was not much of an explaination for why. as far as katrina goes, you can only give people so much opportunity to get out of the way of disaster before you just throw your hands up and say fuck em

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all im saying is that people are quick to blame obama for shit. im not a fan of obamacare, but we suffered $4 gas for a while during bush's and there was not much of an explaination for why. as far as katrina goes, you can only give people so much opportunity to get out of the way of disaster before you just throw your hands up and say fuck em
FWIW, the same thing should be said about those on entitlement programs.
And gas will go up again, to a crippling number that we've never fathomed, especially if they cram cap and tax legislation down our throat. You can rest assured that fuel will hit $7.xx/gal.

And the oil run up was based on speculation and those dirty hedge fund managers profiting at everyone's expense.

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Shouldn't that be the reason gas prices would be falling, and not rising?

A rise in inventories would mean a reduction in the price of a barrel but a reduction in gasoline production at the refinery would mean higher price at the pump. The oil companies are really fond of shutting down refining in order to keep gas prices high right now. Fucking crooks.

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A rise in inventories would mean a reduction in the price of a barrel but a reduction in gasoline production at the refinery would mean higher price at the pump. That oil companies are really fond of shutting down refining in order to keep gas prices high right now. Fucking crooks.
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The problem is, they woud weigh the profit loss and say "Kill her, I can buy more"

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all im saying is that people are quick to blame obama for shit. im not a fan of obamacare,
Obama, while campaigning, said his opinion was that Americas energy supplies were vastly underpriced, and that his policies would increase those prices. So, no one is 'quick to blame obama', they are just pointing out what is fact.

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but we suffered $4 gas for a while during bush's and there was not much of an explaination
No explanation? You must either be a crackhead or lived under a rock the past 6 years, there was this little rainstorm called 'Katrina' that really fucked up gasoline production for a few months. There, explained.


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for why. as far as katrina goes, you can only give people so much opportunity to get out of the way of disaster before you just throw your hands up and say fuck em
I have no idea what this has to do with a thread discussing gasoline prices, but okay.

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Neither Bush nor Obama is to blame for causing oil and gas prices to get so high. But they are both to blame for not at least trying anything to stop the rampant speculation that did and is causing gas prices to rise.

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FWIW, the same thing should be said about those on entitlement programs.
And gas will go up again, to a crippling number that we've never fathomed, especially if they cram cap and tax legislation down our throat. You can rest assured that fuel will hit $7.xx/gal.

And the oil run up was based on speculation and those dirty hedge fund managers profiting at everyone's expense.
I heard somewhere that if it ever reaches $6.00 a gallon, then we are all fucked. Like as in total economic collapse. Without the ability to regrow. So I really do hope you are wrong about that. Even though I just have this feeling that you are right. They simply will not do anything about it. I mean what is really the answer to all this? Maybe just to start murdering and not stop until it's fixed? And no, I don't mean on the part of the people. If the government is so owned, then maybe the prez should use some of his power and just start killing the people who have the stranglehold. The bankers, the big oil execs, etc. Just start slaughtering until they give up.

I mean really. Is that not what a man does? Fulfill his function? I mean say our prez had a pair of balls. Would he be wrong just to kill everyone who was killing this good country? I don't think so. Does a man not destroy his enemies? Maybe it wouldn't be so wrong after all.

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I heard somewhere that if it ever reaches $6.00 a gallon, then we are all fucked. Like as in total economic collapse. Without the ability to regrow. So I really do hope you are wrong about that. Even though I just have this feeling that you are right. They simply will not do anything about it. I mean what is really the answer to all this? Maybe just to start murdering and not stop until it's fixed? And no, I don't mean on the part of the people. If the government is so owned, then maybe the prez should use some of his power and just start killing the people who have the stranglehold. The bankers, the big oil execs, etc. Just start slaughtering until they give up.

I mean really. Is that not what a man does? Fulfill his function? I mean say our prez had a pair of balls. Would he be wrong just to kill everyone who was killing this good country? I don't think so. Does a man not destroy his enemies? Maybe it wouldn't be so wrong after all.
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By SINDYA N. BHANOO
To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

To reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the transportation sector 14 percent from 2005 levels by 2020, the cost of driving would simply have to increase, according to a report released Thursday by researchers at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. The research also appears in the March edition of the journal Energy Policy.

The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

In their study, the researchers devised several combinations of steps that United States policymakers might take in trying to address the heat-trapping emissions by the nation’s transportation sector, which consumes 70 percent of the oil used in the United States.

Most of their models assumed an economy-wide carbon dioxide tax starting at $30 a ton in 2010 and escalating to $60 a ton in 2030. In some cases researchers also factored in tax credits for electric and hybrid vehicles, taxes on fuel or both.

In the modeling, it turned out that issuing tax credits could backfire, while taxes on fuel proved beneficial.

“Tax credits don’t address how much people use their cars,” said Ross Morrow, one of the report’s authors. “In reverse, they can make people drive more.”

Dr. Morrow, formerly a fellow at the Belfer Center, is a professor of mechanical engineering and economics at Iowa State University

Researchers said that vehicle miles traveled will increase by more than 30 percent between 2010 and 2030 unless policymakers increase fuel taxes.
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I heard somewhere that if it ever reaches $6.00 a gallon, then we are all fucked. Like as in total economic collapse. Without the ability to regrow. So I really do hope you are wrong about that. Even though I just have this feeling that you are right. They simply will not do anything about it. I mean what is really the answer to all this? Maybe just to start murdering and not stop until it's fixed? And no, I don't mean on the part of the people. If the government is so owned, then maybe the prez should use some of his power and just start killing the people who have the stranglehold. The bankers, the big oil execs, etc. Just start slaughtering until they give up.

I mean really. Is that not what a man does? Fulfill his function? I mean say our prez had a pair of balls. Would he be wrong just to kill everyone who was killing this good country? I don't think so. Does a man not destroy his enemies? Maybe it wouldn't be so wrong after all.


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And the oil run up was based on speculation that crooked president bush and vp cheney with stock options at haliburton all stood to make millions if oil rose under their administration while profiting at everyone's expense.
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To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

To reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the transportation sector 14 percent from 2005 levels by 2020, the cost of driving would simply have to increase, according to a report released Thursday by researchers at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. The research also appears in the March edition of the journal Energy Policy.

The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

In their study, the researchers devised several combinations of steps that United States policymakers might take in trying to address the heat-trapping emissions by the nation’s transportation sector, which consumes 70 percent of the oil used in the United States.

Most of their models assumed an economy-wide carbon dioxide tax starting at $30 a ton in 2010 and escalating to $60 a ton in 2030. In some cases researchers also factored in tax credits for electric and hybrid vehicles, taxes on fuel or both.

In the modeling, it turned out that issuing tax credits could backfire, while taxes on fuel proved beneficial.

“Tax credits don’t address how much people use their cars,” said Ross Morrow, one of the report’s authors. “In reverse, they can make people drive more.”

Dr. Morrow, formerly a fellow at the Belfer Center, is a professor of mechanical engineering and economics at Iowa State University

Researchers said that vehicle miles traveled will increase by more than 30 percent between 2010 and 2030 unless policymakers increase fuel taxes.
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$7/gallon gas is obamas wet dream, in pursuit of a dream firmly rooted in junk science. Or, follow the money. Or he wants more control.

Unfortunately, the USA falls over when it goes over $4/gallon as evidenced by what happened the last time that occurred. Any control he would get would be over a sinking ship.

I agree, his ass needs to be yanked out of office if he lets it get up to $4/$5 a gallon (we may see the beginnings of that in november). It simply threatens our way of life.
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$7/gallon gas is obamas wet dream, in pursuit of a dream firmly rooted in junk science. Or, follow the money. Or he wants more control.

Unfortunately, the USA falls over when it goes over $4/gallon as evidenced by what happened the last time that occurred. Any control he would get would be over a sinking ship.

I agree, his ass needs to be yanked out of office if he lets it get up to $4/$5 a gallon (we may see the beginnings of that in november). It simply threatens our way of life.
From what little knowledge on the subject that I have been able to amass so far, I think that if that happens, we're done for. It'll all be over. Goodby USA. Hello whatever misery follows. Surely he has people screaming at him that this country won't survive $5.00 per gallon gas...

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Plus they slapped a spill recovery tax per barrel today. Will see if I can find the link.
great, now the taxpayer gets to pay for the oil companies mistakes...we can't have them spending their hard earned profit on their mistakes.
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You guys do realize that in here you're bitching about the government not controlling the free market, but then in another thread you're bitching about the government controlling too much of the free market??

Not trying to start anything, just playing devil's advocate. I'd like for them to leave me the hell alone and let me take care of me.
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great, now the taxpayer gets to pay for the oil companies mistakes...we can't have them spending their hard earned profit on their mistakes.
surely you didnt think BP would pay for this fuckup? the consumer will pay for it just like we pay for everything else

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Still waiting for my 22% drop.

The gas station dropped the price THREE FUCKING PENNIES!!!!!!

We should be down around $2.189/gal if these cocksuckers were human.

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You guys do realize that in here you're bitching about the government not controlling the free market, but then in another thread you're bitching about the government controlling too much of the free market??

Not trying to start anything, just playing devil's advocate. I'd like for them to leave me the hell alone and let me take care of me.


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Closed under $70 a barrel today. The price may come down another $.05 after this...

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hypocrisy is the mantra of the republican party.
Nothing like a little comic relief from the village idiot!

I'm still waiting on a reply about that proposal I made about the mid-terms. Don't pussy out on me, big boy.

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LMAO! My wife works for a refinery here in Dallas, and their profits have been way down. Where the hell is the money going?

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Still waiting for my 22% drop.

The gas station dropped the price THREE FUCKING PENNIES!!!!!!

We should be down around $2.189/gal if these cocksuckers were human.

Look at the past. Gas almost always rises into summer/vacation times.


What is scary is if you look at the current correlation, if oil ever gets back to 140, gas will be over $5 instead of the $4 it hit before.

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LMAO! My wife works for a refinery here in Dallas, and their profits have been way down. Where the hell is the money going?
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better hope we dont get a hurricane in the gulf that shit will be high as cheech and chong on a saturday nite!!
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You guys do realize that in here you're bitching about the government not controlling the free market, but then in another thread you're bitching about the government controlling too much of the free market??

Not trying to start anything, just playing devil's advocate. I'd like for them to leave me the hell alone and let me take care of me.
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impeach a pres. that shouldn't be one in the first place?

oh i know,clog up a leaking pipe 1 mile down on the ocean floor?

no?

ride the bus or light rail?

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impeach a pres. that shouldn't be one in the first place?

oh i know,clog up a leaking pipe 1 mile down on the ocean floor?

no?

ride the bus or light rail?
I'm waiting on the resident self-loathing liberal to describe how the gas prices increasing is the republican party's fault.

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lol

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Well all I know is I hope I get a house a 1/2 mile or mile from my final work place before TSHTF...

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Closed under $70 a barrel today. The price may come down another $.05 after this...
i think it has to drop 20% to actually drop .05 at the pump!
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Well all I know is I hope I get a house a 1/2 mile or mile from my final work place before TSHTF...

Bicycles don't cost anything to run, only to maintain...
Until obama installs a bicycle tax.

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