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on Cinco De Mayo.

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Its California. Im not shocked. Pissed off? Yes.
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"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
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What is really irritating is the damn day isn't even a holiday in mexico. 80% of people think it is Mexicos independence day, ennnnnn wrong. This is bullshit country if we can't wear our own flag any day we want to.
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Something I was thinking about yesterday, wouldn't mexico be better off if Spain had won? Look at Spain and look at Mexico today.

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Something I was thinking about yesterday, wouldn't mexico be better off if Spain had won? Look at Spain and look at Mexico today.
At least they drove out the French. We don't need their asses near us.
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At least they drove out the French. We don't need their asses near us.
Oh come on. . . french mexicans would have been hilarious!

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At least they drove out the French. We don't need their asses near us.
but they didnt, they won the battle (on may 5th) but latter lost the war, france then occupied mexico for several years.

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but they didnt, they won the battle (on may 5th) but latter lost the war, france then occupied mexico for several years.
They drove them out, maybe not by force, but in their own subtle way.

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They drove them out, maybe not by force, but in their own suddle way.
they didnt drive anyone out, and as soon as france got the money mexico owed them (plus a little extra) france went home.

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Its funny because in Mexico they dont even celebrate Cinco de Mayo (except in one or two states).
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Its funny because in Mexico they dont even celebrate Cinco de Mayo (except in one or two states).
one state, Puebla

And I was trying to say in a subtle way, that the French didn't want to own that shit hole, so they left.
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Cicno de Mayo is not really celebrated anywhere but America.
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Cicno de Mayo is not really celebrated anywhere but America.
A lot of people use it as an excuse to go out and drink.
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Cicno de Mayo is not really celebrated anywhere but America.
Like Mexicans need an excuse to get drunk. Me gusto la lengua de espanol, y lo enseno a mi hija, si eso es como se dice.

I used to own a house in a central area of Austin that was rapidly appreciating, adjacent to where the old airport was. No more planes flying, property values shot up overnight. Anyway, there was plenty of diversity in the neighborhood, and on Sunday mornings, like clockwork, there would be a DOZEN mexicans standing in line outside the convenience stores waiting for noon to hit so they could stock up on Budweiser products again.

That story is as fucked up as the people of that stupid state. TFG the day that it slides off in to the drink.

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Wonder what would happen if we tried to tell Mexicans to take off their Mexican flag shirts/bandanas/stuff in the US or Mexico?

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Your racist if your white and dont bow down to everything they think is important. Stupid california, so glad I'm out of that shit hole. TEXAS is the place to be... well for me.
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Pretty ridiculous they were sent home...
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i guess I'm just a racist extremist honky gringo then.

and probably an uncompliant carbon waster too.

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I'm so far beyond livid with this...

They were sent home because their actions were "incendiary" and they would most likely fall victim to a violent HATE CRIME. (what else do you call it when you single some one out based on their ethnicity?)

So now, being proud of being American is enough to get you thrown out of school and/or possibly shanked. Out-fucking-standing.
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A lot of people use it as an excuse to go out and drink.
Like messicans need a reason to drink.
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This is a crock of shit, the principal needs to be thrown out on his head.

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AMEN. Im from San Jose which is 15 minutes from Morgan Hill where that happened. Moved to Texas 3 yrs ago and haven't looked back.

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They drove them out, maybe not by force, but in their own subtle way.
Just like we need to drive out the mexicans.

What no one ever sees, is the staggering hypocrisy of this kind of stuff. For example, back when they did it, it was ok for them to drive out the french. But it's the end of the world if we want them to go home where they belong. Another example might be that high school. It's the end of the world when some real american kids (that belong here) wear their flag on a day that has absolutely nothing at all to do with this good country. Yet I'd bet my ass hairs that if they wore the mexican flag on the 4rth of july, not a damn thing would have been said to them. That's why all beaners and wetbacks need to go back to mexico to live in shit where they belong. Cause they don't respect us, but they demand that we respect them.

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Can we set charges along the California border and create a new coast???
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Can we set charges along the California border and create a new coast???

Looks like you could set them along I-5 and turn Cali into a red state...

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The boys will not be suspended and were allowed to return to school Thursday. We spotted one of them when he got to campus -- and, yes, he was sporting an American flag T-shirt.

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i guess I'm just a racist extremist honky gringo then.

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I don't think so. I'm a camel jockey and I think that story is just fuckin ridiculous. Getting in shit on a day that's NOT an American holiday, for wearing the US flag??? I don't care what day it is, how the fuck can you justify giving ANYONE shit in the US for proudly wearing an American flag on any day?!??! The fact that the officials in that school had to warn the kids that they were doing something incendiary, shows the complete lack of respect and decency of the people who would be offended. I mean, how dumb would you have to be to come into another country, celebrate your own stupid holiday from back home, and start a fight with a dude who's wearing something to show pride in the nation that has ALLOWED you (or let you sneak in :P) to come in and create a better life for yourself and your loved ones?? Is this really the nature of these people???
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Is this really the nature of these people???
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For the vast majority, no. But the vast majority of the immigrant population stays silent while this shit happens, and that makes it almost as bad.
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As a High School Assistant and a disabled veteran as was my father, I am conflicted when it comes to this story. On the one hand my love for this country and my conservative side tells me it is wrong to discipline a student for wearing the American flag; however, being that I am a High School Administrator I look at the other side.

I have never seen a student on my campus or better yet a group of students come to school wearing American flag shirts. If I did have a group of students show up on 5 May wearing American flag t-shirts I would pull them from regular classes as well but not suspend them. There would be several reasons,

Number 1, this is not something they normally do and is being done in protest/political statements that cause a disruption to the learning environment (which is illegal in Texas) and possibly violence.

Number 2, as an educator I could really care less about which holiday it is but I do care about school safety. So if I have a group of Caucasian kids show up and essentially take on the role of antagonists then I would feel compelled to protect them from themselves and others, just as I would do if a group of Hispanic kids showed up during the 4 July time frame in summer school sporting the Mexican flag on a shirt.

Number 3: I would ask those students to consider being tolerant of the Hispanic community even when a considerable portion of the Hispanic community does push the value system and language of their native land on the general American public.

I would not suspend the students, I would place them in an alternative setting for that day, meet with the parents and come to an agreement, even if that was an agree to disagree conclusion. Now on the other hand if I had a group of students who periodically wore the American flag shirts then I would support them wearing the shirts on any day but if they only choose to wear them on foreign holidays, I would once again place the safety of my school and kids over their protest ideal.
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You would put the kids in alternative settings for wearing american flag shirts? What? And if you had done that to my kids we'd have an issue. There isn't a safety issue, it's an issue about free speech and pride in their country.

Do people get worked up when Americans wear American flag shirts on any other holiday? St. Paddys? Nope. Just a made up Mexican holiday. Fuck illegals, fuck Mexicans, go Red, White and blue
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As a High School Assistant and a disabled veteran as was my father, I am conflicted when it comes to this story. On the one hand my love for this country and my conservative side tells me it is wrong to discipline a student for wearing the American flag; however, being that I am a High School Administrator I look at the other side.

I have never seen a student on my campus or better yet a group of students come to school wearing American flag shirts. If I did have a group of students show up on 5 May wearing American flag t-shirts I would pull them from regular classes as well but not suspend them. There would be several reasons,

Number 1, this is not something they normally do and is being done in protest/political statements that cause a disruption to the learning environment (which is illegal in Texas) and possibly violence.

Number 2, as an educator I could really care less about which holiday it is but I do care about school safety. So if I have a group of Caucasian kids show up and essentially take on the role of antagonists then I would feel compelled to protect them from themselves and others, just as I would do if a group of Hispanic kids showed up during the 4 July time frame in summer school sporting the Mexican flag on a shirt.

Number 3: I would ask those students to consider being tolerant of the Hispanic community even when a considerable portion of the Hispanic community does push the value system and language of their native land on the general American public.

I would not suspend the students, I would place them in an alternative setting for that day, meet with the parents and come to an agreement, even if that was an agree to disagree conclusion. Now on the other hand if I had a group of students who periodically wore the American flag shirts then I would support them wearing the shirts on any day but if they only choose to wear them on foreign holidays, I would once again place the safety of my school and kids over their protest ideal.
damn man.america comes first.

with the trouble we are in we need all the people that will stand up for this country.however i don't think you have the nuts to.draw a line in the sand and pic sides.
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I would not suspend the students, I would place them in an alternative setting for that day, meet with the parents and come to an agreement, even if that was an agree to disagree conclusion. Now on the other hand if I had a group of students who periodically wore the American flag shirts then I would support them wearing the shirts on any day but if they only choose to wear them on foreign holidays, I would once again place the safety of my school and kids over their protest ideal.
I hear where you coming from buy strongly disagree. I would never penalize my kids or be docile if they were punished for showing country pride. This is the US, not anywhere else. As you know, when in other countries you respect THEIR ways and culture. Here in the US, I could not care less what day it is - people can show patriotism. I don't care if it is was a way to protest. This is America...

1. The whole freedom of speech thing.
2. The whole freedom thing (that allows Americans in general to have to endure a lot of disrespect to Old Glory to begin with.
3. It is never an inappropriate time to show the colors....in America.

I understand not wanting disruptions, but I'm sick and tired of Americans enduring the punishment as opposed to keeping other cultures that are IN America in line.

i.e. You never hear of Mexicans/Muslims...etc being suspended reprimanded for disrespecting America/Americans on Veteran's Day, Memorial Day and any other day that is for us. I'm not saying it does happen a lot, but I feel confident that these days it would be a big whoopy if a Muslim/Mexican was suspended for the same behavior. It would be racist, and everything else. Damned shit is pissing me off these days.

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Come on Travis. You're being politically correct and carrying a thought process that is aiding the downfall of the nation you once served.

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hey man everyone needs to nut up.

look at it this way.if your students wore those american flags and something did happen you could have called the police and issued the report of mexicans are starting crap with young us patriots at school.instead of slapping real patriots in the face maybe just maybe the mexicos would have gotten the slap.


if americans keep turning a blind eye WE WILL FUCKING SINK!

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.understand the importance of taking a stand and take one.its the right thing to do.no pain no gain!don't let our culture be rail roaded by another.

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hey man everyone needs to nut up.

look at it this way.if your students wore those american flags and something did happen you could have called the police and issued the report of mexicans are starting crap with young us patriots at school.instead of slapping real patriots in the face maybe just maybe the mexicos would have gotten the slap.


if americans keep turning a blind eye WE WILL FUCKING SINK!

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.understand the importance of taking a stand and take one.its the right thing to do.no pain no gain!don't let our culture be rail roaded by another.
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Sean, Travis voted for obsama. Nuff said...
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hey man everyone needs to nut up.

look at it this way.if your students wore those american flags and something did happen you could have called the police and issued the report of mexicans are starting crap with young us patriots at school.instead of slapping real patriots in the face maybe just maybe the mexicos would have gotten the slap.


if americans keep turning a blind eye WE WILL FUCKING SINK!

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.understand the importance of taking a stand and take one.its the right thing to do.no pain no gain!don't let our culture be rail roaded by another.
As an outsider, and a man with my own strong pride for my nation (when it was still great) I can see where your country is headed if you people don't take the above statement to heart! If I were an American, I'd put all that politically correct shit aside and go kick some fucking illegal immigrant ass and put them in their place. I'd say this is MY country, and if you think me wearing MY flag proudly on MY chest is wrong then you need to get the fuck out before I take you out. I'm so sick of this PC crap, everyone is afraid of hurting people's feelings because they're so damn scared of being labelled one way or another...... Be labelled!! As a strong minded and reasonable individual! Not a god damn pussy, too weak to stand up for his/her beliefs, as a person who doesn't look you in the eye when speaking, as a person who shakes hands like a fairy, and as a person who isn't proud of the place that gave them every single right to be the free person they are.

America is truly a great nation, but her people are not as great as they once were. You folks need to step the fuck up and start taking your rightful place above all the immigrants and pussies who are ruining America. I hope I wasn't out of line here, it just pisses me off when bad shit happens to good people. Ain't nothin wrong with being proud of where you come from!
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Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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