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feds going after the militia.

http://www.militiaradio.com/

http://www.infowars.com/large-fbi-ho...-indiana-ohio/

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...eaking+News%29

http://www.annarbor.com/news/fbi-con...awee-counties/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268726,00.html

I smell B.S.
The Militia does not do this crap! They know they are being watched all the time!
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Everyone should know, that this is the way it goes. They can not have anyone else with any semblance of power. They probably both fear and hate the militia. Cause it stands for freedom from their all powerful rule.

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Just FYI,

Me and my group, do NOT do anything illegal!

So if they pounce on us, it's all BULL SHIT!



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Those in custody aren't being charged with any plot to use the grenades against anyone, however, but will be charged with weapons possession and stockpiling.
Charged with stockpiling? How is that a crime?

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The Fox article states:

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Federal and state agents have uncovered a small arsenal of home-made weapons that included a
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(IEDs) similiar to the kind used by insurgents against American GIs in Iraq.
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The weapons cache also included a machine gun, a short barreled shot-gun, two silencers, numerous other firearms, 2500 rounds of ammunition, explosive components, and commercial fireworks. Agents also found more than 120 marijuana plants, Martin said.
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Sources told FOX News that the six suspects were involved in manufacturing homemade weapons and explosives, and that one of the suspects had tried to sell hand grenades to undercover federal agents. The group has also allegedly been involved in the sales and distribution of other types of explosive devices and weapons, but the nature of these has not yet been revealed.
Last time I checked, Rocket Launchers, Hand Grenades, IEDs, Pot, Machine Guns, and sawed off shotguns were all illegal...

Sounds to me like they were targeting people that were breaking the law. Otherwise known as doing their jobs.

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I smell some Ruby Ridge shit in the air.

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I smell some Ruby Ridge shit in the air.
As in standoff or the actual law? Ruby Ridge was an actual case of entrapment. Kinda hard to entrap guys with over a 100 marijuana plants.

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As in standoff or the actual law? Ruby Ridge was an actual case of entrapment. Kinda hard to entrap guys with over a 100 marijuana plants.

just sayin...
I'm saying in federal attitude and response.

And that video of the obamalites chanting....Wonder if those fat fucks are going to be saying 'yes we can' when a real marine cuts their heart out in front of them.

Dangerous yes, but a race war is not something they want to start.

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As in standoff or the actual law? Ruby Ridge was an actual case of entrapment. Kinda hard to entrap guys with over a 100 marijuana plants.

just sayin...
There are parts of the country where that stuff grows wild. If the plants were being cultivated that is a whole lot different then the agents find wild plants in the back 40.

The DEA got nailed in the early 90's for making arrest for wild pot plants in Nebraska for the sole reason of seizing the property via the civil forfeiture laws to sell it in prearanged sales to another government agency. They were even caught on tape while on the way to the raid talking about how they would bring in some extra plants if they had to.
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There are parts of the country where that stuff grows wild. If the plants were being cultivated that is a whole lot different then the agents find wild plants in the back 40.

The DEA got nailed in the early 90's for making arrest for wild pot plants in Nebraska for the sole reason of seizing the property via the civil forfeiture laws to sell it in prearanged sales to another government agency. They were even caught on tape while on the way to the raid talking about how they would bring in some extra plants if they had to.
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also



and this



Last time I checked, Rocket Launchers, Hand Grenades, IEDs, Pot, Machine Guns, and sawed off shotguns were all illegal...

Sounds to me like they were targeting people that were breaking the law. Otherwise known as doing their jobs.
"Sounds" is right. We don't know the facts yet, just because the fear mongering media is saying something that doesn't make it true, even more so with their track record and the truth. Innocent until proven guilty.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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"Sounds" is right. We don't know the facts yet, just because the fear mongering media is saying something that doesn't make it true, even more so with their track record and the truth. Innocent until proven guilty.
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My group is just interested in getting together and hanging out. We don't do any of that training stuff. Nope. Just a bunch of people getting together to talk about how much we love Obama
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The federal warrants which were supposedly for bombs have been sealed, so we won't see those. No bombs found from what info I've heard. Gun charges have been filed, but only three arrests? It's real convenient right now for this to happen with them labeling anyone a terrorist with a different opinion than the government. Time will tell, we'll see eventually what happened.

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I smell some Ruby Ridge shit in the air.
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I am all for sticking it to whitey. Is the secret meeting place still at Sonic? Do you have a cool hand sign, like a piece of spaghetti and tortellini moving together?
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Subscribing just in case someone figures out what did or did not happen. Frankly, I'm iffy on some militia types. There are several that make the rest look bad. So, it's anyone's guess.

Just like me saying this about VFW or AL members. Surely there still a couple whacko members of those too.

Lets not even get into the old SBR cult. Scarey shit man.

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Last time I checked, Rocket Launchers, Hand Grenades, IEDs, Pot, Machine Guns, and sawed off shotguns were all illegal...

With the right paperwork and money, anything is legal.


Especially Machine guns, sawed off shotguns, grenades, grenade launchers, etc.

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With the right paperwork and money, anything is legal.


Especially Machine guns, sawed off shotguns, grenades, grenade launchers, etc.

You do have a point, there is an assumption that there were no licenses for these weapons. Frankly I think it is grasping at straws here.

Don't get me wrong. I don't oppose the concept of a militia, but you do have to operate within the law UNLESS you're intent is the overthrow of said law and government. But then you accept the risk that you'll be caught and totally fucked over.

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Especially Machine guns, sawed off shotguns, grenades, grenade launchers, etc.
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they posted an al quaeda like training video online, how stupid can they be? of course thats going to get the governments attention. now there is nothing wrong with stock piling weapons, but when you have millions of dollars in weapons and your legitimate income level is far below that, it sends up a big red flag that something illegal might be going on.

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they posted an al quaeda like training video online, how stupid can they be? of course thats going to get the governments attention.
Do you have a link to the CIA training video?

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Ask David Koresh about what happens when you don't have permits.
I would if I didn't see the smoke from his burning body at my parents house when I still lived in Waco..

As y'all said though, I'm sure these firearms were illegal. That said it's not uncommon for a single person to have thousands of rounds of ammunition, and as I have found out recently, legal full auto guns, SBS, and destructive devices.

I'm sure if anyone in my family's house was raided, Main Stream Media would have a field day on our fire arm listings.

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Subscribing just in case someone figures out what did or did not happen. Frankly, I'm iffy on some militia types. There are several that make the rest look bad. So, it's anyone's guess.

Just like me saying this about VFW or AL members. Surely there still a couple whacko members of those too.

Lets not even get into the old SBR cult. Scarey shit man.
Thank you. Even if, all the charges we are hearing about are true. I hope people have as much common sense as you seem to have on this. They pulled this shit in the 90's and the militia groups went from very well established to scattered and near nothing.

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You do have a point, there is an assumption that there were no licenses for these weapons. Frankly I think it is grasping at straws here.

Don't get me wrong. I don't oppose the concept of a militia, but you do have to operate within the law UNLESS you're intent is the overthrow of said law and government. But then you accept the risk that you'll be caught and totally fucked over.
Exactly! Now the waiting game commences to see if it's all B.S. or a few nuts in the basket.



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I would if I didn't see the smoke from his burning body at my parents house when I still lived in Waco..

As y'all said though, I'm sure these firearms were illegal. That said it's not uncommon for a single person to have thousands of rounds of ammunition, and as I have found out recently, legal full auto guns, SBS, and destructive devices.

I'm sure if anyone in my family's house was raided, Main Stream Media would have a field day on our fire arm listings.

You have to take what the main stream media said with a grain (pound) of salt. The footage I seen, showed nothing more than half of us here on DFW has in their possession. And I did not see anything I would consider fully automatic. Do you really think they let the media come near any thing? Let alone get close enough to see the difference. But yet they are all spouting off... "Assault weapons" "Fully automatic"

And why are HLS and FBI going after a christian groups again? Why not go after the Muslim compounds across America?



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i think its all about putting pressure on militia and making them sound evil to the public so they don't join up.i ain't skeeeered!

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they posted an al quaeda like training video online, how stupid can they be? of course thats going to get the governments attention. now there is nothing wrong with stock piling weapons, but when you have millions of dollars in weapons and your legitimate income level is far below that, it sends up a big red flag that something illegal might be going on.

Really? They had millions of dollars worth of weapons? Damn! Have to go check that out, cause in another post in this thread I read that they had "nothing more than half of us here on DFW has in their possession" on hand.

Guess that validates the presumption that we are all millionaires and have 10" cocks...

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I would if I didn't see the smoke from his burning body at my parents house when I still lived in Waco..

As y'all said though, I'm sure these firearms were illegal. That said it's not uncommon for a single person to have thousands of rounds of ammunition, and as I have found out recently, legal full auto guns, SBS, and destructive devices.

I'm sure if anyone in my family's house was raided, Main Stream Media would have a field day on our fire arm listings.

So you're related to David?
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And if they don't like "stockpiling" they can shove it up their ass. I will stockpile to my heart's content. It's perfectly legal. You can even stockpile automatic weapons if you have the permit from the ATF.

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According to msnbc the FBI infiltrated the group back in 08.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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It is not surprising that the FBI had penetrated the Hutaree group and an agent was apparently at the center of the alleged conspiracy. In fact, it is part of a well established pattern.

On March 20, Infowars.com reported on allegations that a federal agent acted as a provocateur in the New York synagogue bombing conspiracy case. Defense attorneys in the case argued in court that the plot was hatched and directed by a federal informant.

“They said the informant badgered the defendants until they got involved in the plot,” NBC New York reported. “They said the informant chose the targets, supplied fake bombs for the synagogues and a fake missile to shoot down planes. The motion said he also offered to pay the defendants, who attorneys alleged weren’t inclined toward any crime until the informant began recruiting them.”

“This whole operation was a foolish waste of time and money,” Terence Kindlon, a defense lawyer who represented a client in the New York synagogue case, told the Times Online. “It is almost as if the FBI cooked up the plot and found four idiots to install as defendants.”

Defendants in the New Jersey Fort Dix Army terror case painted a similar picture. “The only terrorist conspiracy was one planted and nurtured by the informant,” declared defense attorney Rocco Cip during the trial. The FBI’s role in the case was admitted by a provocateur. “The FBI informant paid to infiltrate a band of suspected terrorists in South Jersey said yesterday that he offered to organize their attack on U.S. soldiers, but only because he wanted to build trust and find out more about the group,” the Star-Ledger reported on November 11, 2008.

In Miami, the FBI case against the so-called Miami Seven came apart at the seams when it was discovered a government provocateur provided money, video cameras for conducting surveillance, cellphones, and suggested that the patsies target the Miami FBI office.
Lets see, the FBI installs a person into the militia that persuades/facilitates/provides funding for others into doing illegal activities, then raids the militia for the illegal activities. Entrapment on a grand scale.

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Really? They had millions of dollars worth of weapons? Damn! Have to go check that out, cause in another post in this thread I read that they had "nothing more than half of us here on DFW has in their possession" on hand.

Guess that validates the presumption that we are all millionaires and have 10" cocks...
I was going off a report on fox news...now I didnt say there was anything wrong with stockpiling weapons, but when you have way more of something then you can afford its going to send up red flags.

just like the guy in houston who was running a ponzy sceem last year, he had 10 Ferrari's in the back yard of this little house he was renting, and he had no job.

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Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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