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They NOW are debating the violation of House rules due to all the earmarks in the bill...

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During the debate, a California Republican suggested that the Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker kickback, and other earmarks in the Senate bill. The Democratic chairman of the rules committee said that they have made changes that put the bill in compliance with House rules dealing with the Senate earmarks. Another Republican suggested that this changes the bill and will require the Senate to reconsider the bill.

Another Republican suggested that the changes and earmarks are unconstitutional and that 30+ attorney's generals from around the country have already decided to sue the federal government over the bill.

Still waiting on the BS be done and have them get to the vote. The Dems say they have the vote but there are stories around that they in fact don't have 216 votes.

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The House Republican's got the Democrat rules chairman to admit that the Senate bill would be passed AS IS. She also said that they would have to use reconciliation to remove the Senate earmarks. Of course there is no guarantee that they will be able to get those earmarks removed.

edit: another Republican is pointing out that reconciliation doesn't grant the House the ability to remove a Senate earmark.

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The House Republican's got the Democrat rules chairman to admit that the Senate bill would be passed AS IS. She also said that they would have to use reconciliation to remove the Senate earmarks. Of course there is no guarantee that they will be able to get those earmarks removed.

edit: another Republican is pointing out that reconciliation doesn't grant the House the ability to remove a Senate earmark.
I'm watching it on C span as well. I like how they conveniently "couldn't here the question" when it was a question about if the bill is passed, and then the alloted time used for the unanswered question was for nothing.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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The House voted that the bill is subject to House rules. An hour long debate is taking place.

The Democrats are arguing that they need to pass the Senate bill as is, then a reconciliation bill will be passed to take out all of the earmarks and other issues that House members have. The problem, as pointed out by the Republicans is that the reconciliation bill has to go back to the Senate.

So do you really thing members of the Senate are going to vote to take out their earmarks? That is the question/point that the Republicans are driving home..

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4:50 p.m.: Asked if Democrats have the 216 votes needed to pass health care legislation, House Majority Whip James Clyburn said, "We're feeling good, with room to spare," CNN's Dana Bash reports

earlier clyburn was saying they didn't have the votes...
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Barry just signed an "executive order" that there will be no federally funded abortion. Stupac is now a "yes" vote. They now have the vote's to rape us at will. An "executive order" can be rescinded at any time by the POTUS...even right after the vote.

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Sneaky fuckhead. I hope I never get sick or need medical attention. I may have to start looking at holistic medicine doctors.

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This is unreal. Hopefully some judge will actually do the right thing and tie this thing up in court.

I say waiting until November is pointless. Drag these traitors out now and end them in the street Judge Dredd style.

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Barry just signed an "executive order" that there will be no federally funded abortion. Stupac is now a "yes" vote. They now have the vote's to rape us at will. An "executive order" can be rescinded at any time by the POTUS...even right after the vote.
Not to mention that he doesn't have that kind of power. His Executive Order is Unconstitutional and will be easily overturned. All he did is provide Stupac with some political cover.

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No, not yet....

This is going to the courts. Over 30 state attorneys general are promising to sue over this bill..

But who knows what happens after that..

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courts, yeah right ---- Mccain Feingold law

Mccain Feingold limited free speech and the courts did nothing, why would you expect the courts to do any different on this. We need to address this like the blacks did civil rights, civil unrest, when a few senators houses and headquarters burn, they might come to the realization the public doesn't want this
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Counting resulting taxes and associated costs, the workers healthcare bill will more than double and the quality of service will be halved. That's not even counting the associated cost of the 16,500 new IRS agents to administer healthcare. If you don't like the IRS now, you'll really be pissed at them when they are incharge of your healthcare.

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