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Crazy liberal attacks IRS

Seems a liberal nutball attacked the IRS office in Austin a bit ago. Here's his manifesto:

http://www.businessinsider.com/josep...nifesto-2010-2
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Seems a liberal nutball attacked the IRS office in Austin a bit ago. Here's his manifesto:

http://www.businessinsider.com/josep...nifesto-2010-2
Couple hours too late...

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what makes him a liberal?
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what makes him a liberal?
If you read his "suicide note", it's glaringly obvious that he's an America hating cocksucker. By definition liberals hate America and everything it stands for.
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I thought right-wing nutjobs were the only ones to do drastic things.

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They will link him to the Tea Party people.

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If you read his "suicide note", it's glaringly obvious that he's an America hating cocksucker. By definition liberals hate America and everything it stands for.
I'd think he'd be glad to pay more taxes so he could help the less fortunate if he was liberal. Maybe he's one of those liberals that think it would be great for everyone else to pay more taxes.
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They will link him to the Tea Party people.
that's what I'm waiting to see.
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from what i read he fucked himself. didn't file , the didn't declare earnings . well duh .

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If you read his "suicide note", it's glaringly obvious that he's an America hating cocksucker. By my definition liberals hate America and everything it stands for.
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the guy was just a nut.

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... didn't file , the didn't declare earnings . well duh .

In the last year, there has been I believe 6 of obama's administration/cronies that have proved to guilty of tax evasion, seems like it is a prerequisite of being a liberal democrat.

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In the last year, there has been I believe 6 of obama's administration/cronies that have proved to guilty of tax evasion, seems like it is a prerequisite of being a liberal democrat.

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Ironic, isn't it? They want everyone to pay higher taxes so they can support their liberal bullshit handout programs, yet don't want to pay their own taxes. Fucked up is what it is.
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If you read his "suicide note", it's glaringly obvious that he's an America hating cocksucker. By definition liberals hate America and everything it stands for.
Anti-tax, anti-big government, anti-bailout...what's liberal about that? Some of the most conservative people in the world hate America.
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If you read his "suicide note", it's glaringly obvious that he's an America hating cocksucker. By definition liberals hate America and everything it stands for.
by WHOS definition? Yours?

Anyway, he sounded like many other on this site, fed up with the way this country is run. I'm sure they wouldn't wanted to be labelled as "liberals", as you call it.
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by WHOS definition? Yours?

Anyway, he sounded like many other on this site, fed up with the way this country is run. I'm sure they wouldn't wanted to be labelled as "liberals", as you call it.
Pay attention to the things liberals say, and the things they do. It isn't just MY definition, genius. Libs have long been known as anti American.
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Anti-tax, anti-big government, anti-bailout...what's liberal about that? Some of the most conservative people in the world hate America.
When they get to the point where they actually hate America, the conservatives promote them to liberal because there is no way in hell that a conservative could hate anything.

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Funny how all the right wingers are labeling this guy as a liberal and all the left wingers are labeling him as a Tea bagger/Conservative nut. People are reading his note and only taking parts of it and disregarding other parts.


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I just read his manifesto. I don't see the Liberal sub text that others might be seeing. In fact, quite the opposite. Maybe a hint of anarchist subtext, but it was engaging and made some good points.

It's just unfortunate that he had to take such drastic measures to drive home his point. Attempting to burn his house with his family inside eliminates any sympathy that I might have felt for his plight. Violence being the only answer is a terrorist's creed.

It's too bad, he seemed to be a highly intelligent individual. Apparently, he let his frustrations grow to such an extreme degree it caused a psychotic break.

My condolences to all of those who were hurt or possibly killed by this tragedy.

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I just read his manifesto. I don't see the Liberal sub text that others might be seeing. In fact, quite the opposite. Maybe a hint of anarchist subtext, but it was engaging and made some good points.

It's just unfortunate that he had to take such drastic measures to drive home his point. Attempting to burn his house with his family inside eliminates any sympathy that I might have felt for his plight. Violence being the only answer is a terrorist's creed.

It's too bad, he seemed to be a highly intelligent individual. Apparently, he let his frustrations grow to such an extreme degree it caused a psychotic break.

My condolences to all of those who were hurt or possibly killed by this tragedy.
Who said his family was home when he set fire to it? They showed up at the crash site 30 min. after impact.



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Who said his family was home when he set fire to it? They showed up at the crash site 30 min. after impact.
They were pulled from the fire. Check out other thread on this topic.

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They were pulled from the fire. Check out other thread on this topic.
I have not seen that one. Early reports put the family at the crash site 30 min. after the crash. Go figure. I'll bet there is a ton of conflicting reports before it's over.



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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
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Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
You hit the nail on the head.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
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I just read his manifesto. I don't see the Liberal sub text that others might be seeing. In fact, quite the opposite. Maybe a hint of anarchist subtext, but it was engaging and made some good points.

It's just unfortunate that he had to take such drastic measures to drive home his point. Attempting to burn his house with his family inside eliminates any sympathy that I might have felt for his plight. Violence being the only answer is a terrorist's creed.

It's too bad, he seemed to be a highly intelligent individual. Apparently, he let his frustrations grow to such an extreme degree it caused a psychotic break.

My condolences to all of those who were hurt or possibly killed by this tragedy.
How about having a long history of trouble with the IRS but he only MF's Bush as evidence of his liberalism and moving from California to Austin? That's what I got from him when he left out Clinton and Obama for ridicule. A nutjob from the Tea Party would have mentioned everyone, not just a Republican.

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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.
I wouldn't say that, the last time I looked ~75% of the tax receipts come from the top 10%. The wealthy carry a vast majority of the tax burden in America, and with the purposed tax law changes, its only going to get worse. I will say the upper middle class are starting to get hit harder, and without an AMT patch there is going to be a huge number of filers paying AMT in the near future...

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I'm talking about taxation as a percentage of income. There are many ways to shelter yourself from taxation if you can dump money into investments and call it a writeoff or a gift or a donation or something other than income. This is all by design, that is why the tax code is what it is - a means to give a few rich people options to evade taxation, and a means to redistribute tax monies to the lowest wage earners. If you have no kids, and can only afford to save/invest 15-20% of your income, then prepare to be dressed down by the IRS.

Flat income tax would be nice. National sales tax would be better. Both would make taxation in America more fair.
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He sounds pretty far from liberal to me. I don't think you have to be a liberal to think the government is corrupt (it is) and the IRS should be destroyed (it should). I don't mind paying into the tax system, but a majority of Americans don't pay a cent. Poor people don't pay, and rich people evade. People that bust their ass are the ones that get BENT by the American tax system.

I'm not quite ready to fly a plane into an IRS building, but I am sick of being taken advantage of.

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I'm talking about taxation as a percentage of income. There are many ways to shelter yourself from taxation if you can dump money into investments and call it a writeoff or a gift or a donation or something other than income. This is all by design, that is why the tax code is what it is - a means to give a few rich people options to evade taxation, and a means to redistribute tax monies to the lowest wage earners. If you have no kids, and can only afford to save/invest 15-20% of your income, then prepare to be dressed down by the IRS.

Flat income tax would be nice. National sales tax would be better. Both would make taxation in America more fair.
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They were pulled from the fire. Check out other thread on this topic.

that was mistakenly reported yesterday - the wife and kids were not home when he set fire to the house

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Actually, he's not. MOST of us wouldn't kill ourselves, let alone potentially harm anyone else over that shit.

I wouldn't go as far as linking him to any political party. It looks like poor decision making on a personal level and poor execution of trying to solve the problem.
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That's just about every single one of them.

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Actually, he's not. MOST of us wouldn't kill ourselves, let alone potentially harm anyone else over that shit.

I wouldn't go as far as linking him to any political party. It looks like poor decision making on a personal level and poor execution of trying to solve the problem.
But if his "Manifesto" was posted on this forum on Wednesday, before he crashed, there would be nearly a unanimous agreement with his statements here.

It's actually pretty fucking hilarious how quickly you guys will jump off your bandwagon as soon as someone who agrees with you takes it "too far" and flys a plane into a building.
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It's actually pretty fucking hilarious how quickly you guys will jump off your bandwagon as soon as someone who agrees with you takes it "too far" and flys a plane into a building.
Do you even read some of the crap you type? Someone that flies a plane into a building has more problems than gripes with the tax code.
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But if his "Manifesto" was posted on this forum on Wednesday, before he crashed, there would be nearly a unanimous agreement with his statements here.

It's actually pretty fucking hilarious how quickly you guys will jump off your bandwagon as soon as someone who agrees with you takes it "too far" and flys a plane into a building.
Have you come out and stated what you disagree with in his manifesto? Are you for more taxation, bigger government, IRS bullying people, etc?

I think he is a liberal nut, not a tea party type. He didn't pay his taxes, tried to kill people (and succeeded), and most of it was his own doing so don't claim I am a big supporter of his or his actions.

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Have you come out and stated what you disagree with in his manifesto? Are you for more taxation, bigger government, IRS bullying people, etc?

I think he is a liberal nut, not a tea party type. He didn't pay his taxes, tried to kill people (and succeeded), and most of it was his own doing so don't claim I am a big supporter of his or his actions.
You're going to make me quote his manifesto and your own comments on this board, aren't ya?
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post #45 of 67 (permalink) Old 02-19-2010, 11:00 AM
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But if his "Manifesto" was posted on this forum on Wednesday, before he crashed, there would be nearly a unanimous agreement with his statements here.

It's actually pretty fucking hilarious how quickly you guys will jump off your bandwagon as soon as someone who agrees with you takes it "too far" and flys a plane into a building.
Ya, because political views and life-ending suicide acts go hand in hand. What the fuck, Maston...
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You're going to make me quote his manifesto and your own comments on this board, aren't ya?
If I could make you do anything, it would be to make you dance like a puppet. You do what you want, I will just watch and laugh.

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Check out this fox news link. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586904,00.html

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Ya, because political views and life-ending suicide acts go hand in hand. What the fuck, Maston...
Don't mind him. I think he's drunk. He likes to cry when he drinks.
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I still don't see how any of y'all are calling him liberal. His manifesto was overwhelmingly conservative and not paying taxes is definitely a radical conservative view.
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I still don't see how any of y'all are calling him liberal. His manifesto was overwhelmingly conservative and not paying taxes is definitely a radical conservative view.
They'd only claim he was conservative if he had flown the plane into a building full of terrorists instead and was considered a hero. But no one with their values would ever go off their rocker so he HAS to be liberal. Conservatives can do no wrong.

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