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Anybody see Debra Medina on Glenn Beck? Not good.......

I read it on Fox News, She said there were some very good questions raised about the government's involvement in 9/11 attacks. Apparently he asked her if she was a "truther" and she skated around it and never denied it. KBH and RP are already all over it.

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It has been covered starting on page 2 of this thread...

https://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=409083

But, because it was buried in the thread, I won't call it a full on repost.

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Does anybody honestly believe that some guy living in a cave 10,000 miles away talking on a satellite phone created and carried out the attacks on 9-11. After 9 years,with all the power of the U.S. Military we have never spotted or seen this so called Osama guy. But yet he makes on the MSJM once a week. Same old pic,but a new tape recording everyweek. I call liberal brainwashing B.S. at it's best on this.
What worse is all the fools that believe what they are told because NBC,or CNN said so
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Does anybody honestly believe that some guy living in a cave 10,000 miles away talking on a satellite phone created and carried out the attacks on 9-11. After 9 years,with all the power of the U.S. Military we have never spotted or seen this so called Osama guy. But yet he makes on the MSJM once a week. Same old pic,but a new tape recording everyweek. I call liberal brainwashing B.S. at it's best on this.
What worse is all the fools that believe what they are told because NBC,or CNN said so
GTFO here you nut job. We all saw the truth on tv, and the government doesn't lie.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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GTFO here you nut job. We all saw the truth on tv, and the government doesn't lie.
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so you've been to his cave for a visit huh . since no one has seen him how do you know where he lives ? see it on tv ? do you honestly think our government could persuade those damn rag heads to do that ? i grew up in the 60's and have way more reason to distrust the government than most of you but even i don't buy into that silly shit . obama was getting even for us hanging him out to dry in Afghanistan after he fought the Russians . payback pure and simple .

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Does anybody honestly believe that some guy living in a cave 10,000 miles away talking on a satellite phone created and carried out the attacks on 9-11. After 9 years,with all the power of the U.S. Military we have never spotted or seen this so called Osama guy. But yet he makes on the MSJM once a week. Same old pic,but a new tape recording everyweek. I call liberal brainwashing B.S. at it's best on this.
What worse is all the fools that believe what they are told because NBC,or CNN said so
Do I believe that the well educated son of a wealthy Saudi family can do this?

Yes.

We have Incident Command training in where we have to group up and submit mass casualty/terrorism scenarios to the instructor for the class.

My little group sumitted a scenario as follows:

We had limited budget ($250k) and only 5 "bad guys" to wreak as much havoc as we could.

We decided on an attack at JRB Ft. Worth.

We were going to have one guy with a rocket propelled grenade strike a fuel tanker at take off. It would go down in a residential area, but due to the amount of fuel, it would create a huge fire. We would have gone in the area before hand and disabled all the fire hydrants so that the FD could not access water to fight the fires. We would then send a couple of guys to disburse a mustard agent into the closest hosptials so that any victims transported would have to go to the furthest hospitals. Treating people would be almost impossible because those hospitals attacked with the agent would be evacuating to other hospitals. It would cripple the EMS system.

There was more, but you get the idea.

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here is what I never understood, why do they seem to (mostly) attack government institutions, the most expendable part of our society? if I wanted to really hurt american society, and impact the most people, and bring down capitalism; then I would attack walmarts and shopping malls around the country with small bombs on the day after Thanksgiving. this action would bring our purchase based economy to an instant halt, people would stop spending and going out. retailers would panic as Decemeber makes or brakes their year and begin mass layoffs, there would be a massive sell off on walstreet, sales tax revenues would dwindle. By christmas a 1/3 of the country would be unemployed, there would be riots, and most of the country would become a police state.

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GTFO here you nut job. We all saw the truth on tv, and the government doesn't lie.

LOL, no doubt about that.I will have to see if Wolf Blitzer is a tweeter so I be can always up to date on the "Truth" from the Government
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here is what I never understood, why do they seem to (mostly) attack government institutions, the most expendable part of our society?
Isn't half of terrorism making a statement? Political?

While I agree with your assessment, I think that's the "dumb" part of terrorism. Fortunately, they haven't gone to your level state-side. There's road-side bombings at markets and the like overseas, though.

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so you've been to his cave for a visit huh . since no one has seen him how do you know where he lives ? see it on tv ? do you honestly think our government could persuade those damn rag heads to do that ? i grew up in the 60's and have way more reason to distrust the government than most of you but even i don't buy into that silly shit . obama was getting even for us hanging him out to dry in Afghanistan after he fought the Russians . payback pure and simple .
I definitely don't think it's an Obama payback situation. I think 9/11 was allowed to happen though. A lot of people claim "inside job" and Bush did it for oil, and several thousand other ideas. I don't believe any of those reasons are why we had that disaster/tragedy. I believe it was done and allowed to happen to create the endless war on terror. If there's a war with no enemy in sight it can go on forever, and the threat of "terrorism" can keep being used to strip away your rights, and keep you in fear. It was done IMO with several different intelligence organizations from around the world, and yes some US intelligence would have to be involved. Box cutter wielding men in caves don't get our military to stand down. War is a huge racket, and there is lots of potential to do things you couldn't normally do when there is no war or threat. The global elite want a one world government (NWO) and this was just a small piece of the puzzle IMO. If you read club of Rome documents, and UN documents, you can find things like "all we need is the right crisis to bring in the world order" and constant referring to everyday people as "useless eaters" the agendas of these people who really run the world becomes crystal clear. Our leaders don't care about us, and you'd better believe that they do in fact answer to someone above them, and I'm not referring to a god. We will never probably know what really happened on 9/11, but IMO what we have been told is not the honest truth.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Here's the Fox article saying Medina imploded. http://www.thefoxnation.com/tea-part...des-becks-show

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Does anybody honestly believe that some guy living in a cave 10,000 miles away talking on a satellite phone created and carried out the attacks on 9-11. After 9 years,with all the power of the U.S. Military we have never spotted or seen this so called Osama guy. But yet he makes on the MSJM once a week. Same old pic,but a new tape recording everyweek. I call liberal brainwashing B.S. at it's best on this.
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if all this is true just who do you think the world answers to ? that would be us . who else . do you really think the most powerful country on the planet will take orders from someone else. not likely. just remember. we close our borders and ports the world goes bankrupt and starves. we can defend ourselves against any threat . we can feed our people . we have enough energy resources . we are the largest consumers on the planet so i believe we could survive without imports. wall street would freak but fuck them they cause more problems than they are worth. small industry and family farms built this nation . imho it's time for folks to stop doing their farming at krogers and get back to the family farms and feed yourself.

besides , do you really think a cocky smart ass texan in charge of the most powerful nation on the planet would take orders from somebody else .

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absofuckinglutely the gov. had everything to do with 911.

not 1 doubt in my mind.


the gb/dm interview didn't hurt shit.

i talked with the dm folks this morning and they say the phones are ringing more than ever with support for her.

its was a failed attempt to make medina look like shit.

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absofuckinglutely the gov. had everything to do with 911.

not 1 doubt in my mind.


the gb/dm interview didn't hurt shit.

i talked with the dm folks this morning and they say the phones are ringing more than ever with support for her.

its was a failed attempt to make medina look like shit.
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Article about Glenn Beck and Medina.


http://america20xy.com/blog6/2010/02...-911-truthers/

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here is what I never understood, why do they seem to (mostly) attack government institutions, the most expendable part of our society? if I wanted to really hurt american society, and impact the most people, and bring down capitalism; then I would attack walmarts and shopping malls around the country with small bombs on the day after Thanksgiving. this action would bring our purchase based economy to an instant halt, people would stop spending and going out. retailers would panic as Decemeber makes or brakes their year and begin mass layoffs, there would be a massive sell off on walstreet, sales tax revenues would dwindle. By christmas a 1/3 of the country would be unemployed, there would be riots, and most of the country would become a police state.

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I still havent heard the interview but i listned to comentary about on jeff boltons show. apparently it was a hack interview and made glenn beck look worse than medina. She also had a surge in contributions afterwards. lets hope for the best

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Here's another article about this incident with Glenn Beck, but they include Palin in this one.http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/2211.html

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Do I believe that the well educated son of a wealthy Saudi family can do this?

Yes.

We have Incident Command training in where we have to group up and submit mass casualty/terrorism scenarios to the instructor for the class.

My little group sumitted a scenario as follows:

We had limited budget ($250k) and only 5 "bad guys" to wreak as much havoc as we could.

We decided on an attack at JRB Ft. Worth.

We were going to have one guy with a rocket propelled grenade strike a fuel tanker at take off. It would go down in a residential area, but due to the amount of fuel, it would create a huge fire. We would have gone in the area before hand and disabled all the fire hydrants so that the FD could not access water to fight the fires. We would then send a couple of guys to disburse a mustard agent into the closest hosptials so that any victims transported would have to go to the furthest hospitals. Treating people would be almost impossible because those hospitals attacked with the agent would be evacuating to other hospitals. It would cripple the EMS system.

There was more, but you get the idea.

We horrified our instructor.
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Do I believe that the well educated son of a wealthy Saudi family can do this?

Yes.

We have Incident Command training in where we have to group up and submit mass casualty/terrorism scenarios to the instructor for the class.

My little group sumitted a scenario as follows:

We had limited budget ($250k) and only 5 "bad guys" to wreak as much havoc as we could.

We decided on an attack at JRB Ft. Worth.

We were going to have one guy with a rocket propelled grenade strike a fuel tanker at take off. It would go down in a residential area, but due to the amount of fuel, it would create a huge fire. We would have gone in the area before hand and disabled all the fire hydrants so that the FD could not access water to fight the fires. We would then send a couple of guys to disburse a mustard agent into the closest hosptials so that any victims transported would have to go to the furthest hospitals. Treating people would be almost impossible because those hospitals attacked with the agent would be evacuating to other hospitals. It would cripple the EMS system.

There was more, but you get the idea.

We horrified our instructor.
Man there is a-lot wrong with this. So how are you going to take out a tanker over a residential area if you have already blown it up on take-off? Have you ever tried to put out a fire that is fuel by a liquid such as diesel or gas with water? I think your making this shit up or maybe you just failed the class.

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Man there is a-lot wrong with this. So how are you going to take out a tanker over a residential area if you have already blown it up on take-off? Have you ever tried to put out a fire that is fuel by a liquid such as diesel or gas with water? I think your making this shit up or maybe you just failed the class.
Do you know what is considered takeoff? Most people define it as while on the runway to the point of final flight altitude. If it is accelerating to altitude, it is still during "takeoff" by most standards. Come on now, stop the nitpicking and get some common sense. The majority of aircraft from JRB are over civilian population for several minutes at least. The runway ends at or near Ridgmar Mall. How about hitting it right at liftoff (while fully fueled) and it slams into the mall? Yeah, you really made a great point! LMAO!

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Man there is a-lot wrong with this. So how are you going to take out a tanker over a residential area if you have already blown it up on take-off? Have you ever tried to put out a fire that is fuel by a liquid such as diesel or gas with water? I think your making this shit up or maybe you just failed the class.
Pretty sure he was talking about fire-fighters trying to extinguish the flaming neighborhood that the plane just crashed into 60 seconds after going wheels-up off the runway.

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Hitting a airplane after or shortly after take-off with a RPG would be like hitting a Dove with a 22 rifle I aint going to say it can't be done but come on really. With 250k in your budget why would you chose a RPG to do that job.

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Hitting a airplane after or shortly after take-off with a RPG would be like hitting a Dove with a 22 rifle I aint going to say it can't be done but come on really. With 250k in your budget why would you chose a RPG to do that job.
Odd how you just changed your argument when your excuses were explained.

He might have been confusing an RPG with a shoulder launched anti-aircraft missile. Or not, who knows, but I would think $250,000 would go a long way when creating a terrorist attack, just look what Timothy McVey with far less.

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So explain building 7. Not on fire, not hit by a plain. Not hit by any amount of falling debris.



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Hitting a airplane after or shortly after take-off with a RPG would be like hitting a Dove with a 22 rifle I aint going to say it can't be done but come on really. With 250k in your budget why would you chose a RPG to do that job.
Dude, it was a freaking table top exercise for a terrorism type mass casualty attack. Have you ever been a participant in an exercise like that?


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So explain building 7. Not on fire, not hit by a plain. Not hit by any amount of falling debris.
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I would give a D- minus to any plan that counts on you hitting a fast moving target with an RPG.
Granted, I know jack squat about them, but what if you were in the weeds at the end of the runway and shot it right up the ass? That would likely make it a great deal easier. Or would it?
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Granted, I know jack squat about them, but what if you were in the weeds at the end of the runway and shot it right up the ass? That would likely make it a great deal easier. Or would it?
Man, if they (RPG's) are portrayed accurately in the movies (I have never seen one fired in person) they could definitely hit a plane taking off from JRB standing in the little farmers market at the south end of the runway.

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They are accurate to about 100 meters on very slow or stationary targets, like a hovering helicopter.

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