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W2s showing up and it has started

My mom is the CPA for a private practice of 7 doctors. They have the typical lower class billing/front desk folks working there. Well they get their W2 and come ask my mom what is wrong with it because their refund is not what they thought. They think of their refund checks as "free money" instead of taking the proper deductions all year long.
Well she tells them that they are essentially paying back that "extra" money they have been getting all year, that Obama reduced their with holdings, not give them free money. They then said that he would not do that, he did not mean for this to happen.

I imagine that this will be the scene all across America as the ghetto rich open their W2s....
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Im dreading doing my taxes this year. I think I paid in $100 all year in taxes but I have 4 kids and my wife doesnt work so thats why. Owell, Im sure Ill be getting the shaft.

But yeah, I knew with all of Obamas savings would come a horde of angry tax payers at the end of the year. [email protected] he didnt mean to do it.
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I have been waiting for this time of year and it is going to be great to see the reaction of the masses.

The people who get a ton of money back every year won't be affected as much. The people who usually get $300 or so back and are going to have to pay this time are going to be the ones who are pissed off beyond belief.

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LOL. I totally forgot about the $12/month/week extra people were getting.

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I have been waiting for this time of year and it is going to be great to see the reaction of the masses.

The people who get a ton of money back every year won't be affected as much. The people who usually get $300 or so back and are going to have to pay this time are going to be the ones who are pissed off beyond belief.
They only need file Schedule M (Making Work Pay Credit) with their 1040 or 1040A return to get a $400 ($800 for married filing jointly) credit that will offset the surprise they will get from their lowered witholding amounts. Problem is they have to ask for it, and I wonder how many will overlook this credit.
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They only need file Schedule M (Making Work Pay Credit) with their 1040 or 1040A return to get a $400 ($800 for married filing jointly) credit that will offset the surprise they will get from their lowered witholding amounts. Problem is they have to ask for it, and I wonder how many will overlook this credit.
I wasn't even aware of that.

I don't think you can file any schedules with the 1040EZ form though
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I wasn't even aware of that.

I don't think you can file any schedules with the 1040EZ form though
I wasn't either but my wife and I were looking through the 1040 instructions and found it. A credit like that is a decent amount of money, and the shame is I'm sure it will be overlooked by many filers.

I believe you're right about the 1040EZ form.
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They only need file Schedule M (Making Work Pay Credit) with their 1040 or 1040A return to get a $400 ($800 for married filing jointly) credit that will offset the surprise they will get from their lowered witholding amounts. Problem is they have to ask for it, and I wonder how many will overlook this credit.
Thanks for the tip! Looks like I get another $400 back LOL.....
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They only need file Schedule M (Making Work Pay Credit) with their 1040 or 1040A return to get a $400 ($800 for married filing jointly) credit that will offset the surprise they will get from their lowered witholding amounts. Problem is they have to ask for it, and I wonder how many will overlook this credit.
My taxes are done and filed, waiting for my refund. I did catch this credit we did get it added to our return.

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Thanks for the tip! Looks like I get another $400 back LOL.....
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My taxes are done and filed, waiting for my refund. I did catch this credit we did get it added to our return.
The IRS doesn't seem to be going out of their way to inform us taxpayers about it. I wonder if, in cases where a return is submitted by someone who is entitiled to this credit but didn't claim it, the IRS will do the right thing and notify them. Right now I would think not, given our current "leadership" in Washington.
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The IRS doesn't seem to be going out of their way to inform us taxpayers about it. I wonder if, in cases where a return is submitted by someone who is entitiled to this credit but didn't claim it, the IRS will do the right thing and notify them. Right now I would think not, given our current "leadership" in Washington.
Suprisingly I used H&R block online and when going through the Deductions & Credits it pulls the Work Savers Credit up, same as with TurboTax as well. Even though the IRS isn't informing everyone it's good that these places are giving you the option.

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I have been waiting for this time of year and it is going to be great to see the reaction of the masses.

The people who get a ton of money back every year won't be affected as much. The people who usually get $300 or so back and are going to have to pay this time are going to be the ones who are pissed off beyond belief.
I only had $76 withheld this year compared to $3xx last year Good thing I planned ahead and saved my "stimulus".
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The IRS doesn't seem to be going out of their way to inform us taxpayers about it. I wonder if, in cases where a return is submitted by someone who is entitiled to this credit but didn't claim it, the IRS will do the right thing and notify them. Right now I would think not, given our current "leadership" in Washington.
With the current status on Capitol Hill, does it really surprise anyone that the IRS is not informing the masses of this credit? (Insert sarcasm)




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The IRS never informs people of credits they can take or anything else.

I have noticed they also don't inform people of credits they can't take either. lol but I digress...
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The IRS never informs people of credits they can take or anything else.

I have noticed they also don't inform people of credits they can't take either. lol but I digress...
Are you trying to say the government isn't always looking out for the best interests of the little people? I thought if we let them have control of our healthcare they would do what was best for all of us? My whole world has been shattered by Al!

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My taxes are done and filed, waiting for my refund. I did catch this credit we did get it added to our return.
Same here...there was also some credit that I found in Turbo Tax that is based on the amount of money you put into a 401k or IRA. Your taxable income had to be below a certain threshold, but it was good for a credit of 10% of my 401k contribution.

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Same here...there was also some credit that I found in Turbo Tax that is based on the amount of money you put into a 401k or IRA. Your taxable income had to be below a certain threshold, but it was good for a credit of 10% of my 401k contribution.
I would like to have taken that credit, but like all the other high rollers who make up 99+% of the membership of this site on this site I make far too much money to qualify.
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Suprisingly I used H&R block online and when going through the Deductions & Credits it pulls the Work Savers Credit up, same as with TurboTax as well. Even though the IRS isn't informing everyone it's good that these places are giving you the option.
Curious how much it costs to do H&R Block online vs Turbo Tax. I've used TT the past 2 years but I'm curious how you like H&R over it and if there was a price difference?

And as far as the $400, I too was not aware of it. I'm married, filing jointly and we have 2 incomes (she works too)...how would you find out if you had received the $800 in the past year? I don't recall getting a physical IRS check like back when Dubya did it.

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girlfriend is paying in $20 more a month and she doesnt make anywhere near $150k a year. Is that how they get ya, little here and a little there so it doesnt hurt so bad.

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Im dreading doing my taxes this year. I think I paid in $100 all year in taxes but I have 4 kids and my wife doesnt work so thats why. Owell, Im sure Ill be getting the shaft.

But yeah, I knew with all of Obamas savings would come a horde of angry tax payers at the end of the year. [email protected] he didnt mean to do it.
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I would like to have taken that credit, but like all the other high rollers who make up 99+% of the membership of this site on this site I make far too much money to qualify.
I'm a low roller. Hopefully I can take advantage of it. Thanks for the heads up!

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[email protected] he didnt mean to do it.
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I would like to have taken that credit, but like all the other high rollers who make up 99+% of the membership of this site on this site I make far too much money to qualify.
I'm a low roller. Hopefully I can take advantage of it. Thanks for the heads up!

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I never understood this.

2 weeks ago: "When my tax return comes in I will come do my timing belt."

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Not sure but I think you can get some small return. If they were on unemployment then yes they did pay in, right out of their unemployment checks lol. I always thought that it was pretty low to take taxes (or anything) out of someone's unemployment check. Aren't they already on hard enough times? Kinda like kicking them when they are down.

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Don't forget the 30% energy tax credits. My $200 worth of insulation and Great Stuff was good for $60 back. Too bad energy efficient appliances aren't eligible. There will be a state credit soon but nothing right now.

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Don't forget the 30% energy tax credits. My $200 worth of insulation and Great Stuff was good for $60 back. Too bad energy efficient appliances aren't eligible. There will be a state credit soon but nothing right now.

Also any taxes paid for new vehicle purchases made are deductible. Motorcycles and ATVs count!
Well sales tax on vehicles and everything else for that matter has always been deductible, but you have to itemize. They just added a deduction for this year that lets people that use the standard deduction to deduct sales tax on a vehicle purchase in 09'...

As mentioned the "making work pay credit" is $400 and taken on your 09' return. Employers lowered your withholding to account for this $400, so it all nets out and you got an extra $400 over the year. The people that are going to end up with a surprise are the ones that work more than one job and had their withholdings reduced at multiple jobs.

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Well shit I guess that explains why so little taxes got paid in last year for me
I normall claim a couple points higher because they used to take so damn much out.
Now this year i noticed I did n't pay in very much. I only worked about three months this year, so I paid no taxes the rest for unemployment.
Now im screwed
at least i got married this last year that should make up some of the descrepency
fucking annoying though , first they take out too damn much, so I change the claim of dependants , now they are taking out too little.
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They only need file Schedule M (Making Work Pay Credit) with their 1040 or 1040A return to get a $400 ($800 for married filing jointly) credit that will offset the surprise they will get from their lowered witholding amounts. Problem is they have to ask for it, and I wonder how many will overlook this credit.
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The Making work Pay credit is line number 8 on the 1040EZ and there is a "worksheet" on the second page for it so you should not have to file a 1040 and a Schedule M like mentioned above.

(This is amateur advice, it is only worth what you paid for it, but look at the link)

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The Making work Pay credit is line number 8 on the 1040EZ and there is a "worksheet" on the second page for it so you should not have to file a 1040 and a Schedule M like mentioned above.

(This is amateur advice, it is only worth what you paid for it, but look at the link)

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040ez.pdf
Oh nice, so i guess the masses get their Obama bucks after all!
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FYI

The Making work Pay credit is line number 8 on the 1040EZ and there is a "worksheet" on the second page for it so you should not have to file a 1040 and a Schedule M like mentioned above.

(This is amateur advice, it is only worth what you paid for it, but look at the link)

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040ez.pdf
You are correct. My stepson just filled out his 1040EZ form last week and it's there on the back just like you said.

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Oh nice, so i guess the masses get their Obama bucks after all!
Only if they muster up the intelligence to claim it.
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So should the $800 credit change our overall return? I know this is probably an "it depends" situation. We already did our taxes through H&R Block Online but hadn't submitted them yet, so I went back to find this credit. I went through the steps and it added the $800 credit, but my overall return didn't change any. I just want to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm definitely not a tax expert.

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So should the $800 credit change our overall return? I know this is probably an "it depends" situation. We already did our taxes through H&R Block Online but hadn't submitted them yet, so I went back to find this credit. I went through the steps and it added the $800 credit, but my overall return didn't change any. I just want to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm definitely not a tax expert.
Since it's a credit, it will directly reduce your taxes owed by $800 but doesn't change your AGI like a deduction would.
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Ok someone explain this to me.. I got married last year, but she didnt work hardly at all, maybe half the year, and not very much at all. Maybe $5k all year. what is the best way to go about filing? jointly?

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Ok someone explain this to me.. I got married last year, but she didnt work hardly at all, maybe half the year, and not very much at all. Maybe $5k all year. what is the best way to go about filing? jointly?
I think jointly, but it's simple enough to do it both ways (married filing jointly and married filing separately) to be sure before sending in your return.
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what all is needed to qualify? As far as maximum income or anything goes.

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