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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-14-2010, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
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Obama at it again...

Seems he has decided to exempt unions from the massive tax on their healthcare, but that doesn't extend to everyone.

Unions tentatively struck a deal Tuesday to exempt collectively bargained healthcare plans from a tax on high-cost plans expected to be used to help raise revenue for the healthcare overhaul.

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, Service Employees International Union President Andy Stern and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger met with House Speaker Pelosi Tuesday, a day after labor leaders met at the White House to express their opposition to the excise tax.

House and Senate Democratic leaders are to meet with President Obama this morning at the White House to discuss health care. House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel said he hopes there could be an agreement on the excise tax as early as today after the White House meeting, but then conceded: "That's stretching the word `hope.' "

Exempting collectively bargained plans would appease unions that often offer expensive health plans in lieu of higher wages. The deal could also help Obama avoid breaking his promise not to tax those earning less than $200,000. Obama recently expressed a preference for the excise tax.

The excise tax could further be tweaked to ensure Obama's promise is kept for non-union workers as well.

The so called "cadillac tax" on expensive health plans is a major funding mechanism for health care. So if a huge percentage of people with expensive health care plans now become exempt from the tax, isn't this going to have a radical impact on the bill's finances and how it is being paid for? Won't the CBO have to re-score the whole thing? It's hard to imagine that exempting unions from the tax isn't going to make the bill much more expensive without some new mechanism to raise revenue.

It's also utterly bizarre that the Senate just passed health care reform without addressing this issue with the unions. Striking a deal now makes Democrats appear completely captive to union interests.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...#ixzz0ccbCNKnt
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Well for me this isn't a bad thing.

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No, if it passes, it gives states a reason to file for it's unconstitutionality. Especially the equal protection under the law part. And then you have other workers paying for unions and other states paying for Nebraska and Louisiana
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This seems like discrimination, high end health care plans will be taxed... but not our buddies that voted for us.

I thought we could only be taxed differently because of how much we earn and how many kids we have, not because I work for GM???

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Just wait until you don't get the "best" health care if you are not in a union. This is just another reason why unions suck.

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No, if it passes, it gives states a reason to file for it's unconstitutionality. Especially the equal protection under the law part. And then you have other workers paying for unions and other states paying for Nebraska and Louisiana
its already unconstitution,let the filing begin!

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What is even more amazing is that we passed health care legislation without even defining what is a qualifying health care plan.

This isn't about health care. It's about money. If you can't see that, then you haven't a clue.
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its already unconstitution,let the filing begin!
Personally, I don't want to put my faith in the Supreme Court. They can fuck up just as easily as Congress

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What is even more amazing is that we passed health care legislation without even defining what is a qualifying health care plan.

This isn't about health care. It's about money. If you can't see that, then you haven't a clue.
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