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Calif. requires TVs to be more energy efficient

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -

Power-hungry TVs will be banned from store shelves in California after state regulators Wednesday adopted a first-in-the-nation mandate to reduce electricity demand.

On a unanimous vote, the California Energy Commission required all new televisions up to 58 inches to be more energy efficient, beginning in 2011. The requirement will be tougher in 2013, with only a quarter of all TVs currently on the market meeting that standard.

The commission estimates that TVs account for about 10 percent of a home's electricity use. The concern is that the energy draw will rise by as much as 8 percent a year as consumers buy larger televisions, add more to their homes and watch them longer.

Commissioners say energy efficiency standards are the cheapest and easiest way to save electricity.

"We have every confidence this industry will be able to meet the rule and then some," Energy Commissioner Julia Levin said. "It will save consumers money, it will help protect public health, and it will spark innovation."

TVs larger than 58 inches, which account for no more than 3 percent of the market, would not be covered by the rule, a concession to independent retailers that sell high-end home-theater TVs. The commission is expected to regulate them in the future.

Environmental groups supported the tougher standards and hoped they will prompt manufacturers to make new energy-efficient models for the rest of the nation. They said the rules would cut California's power bill by $1 billion a year, avoiding the need to build a 500-megawatt power plant.

Some manufacturers said implementing a power standard will cripple innovation, limit consumer choice and harm California retailers because consumers could simply buy TVs out of state or order them online.

Industry representatives also have said the standards would force manufacturers to make televisions that have poorer picture quality and fewer features than those sold elsewhere in the U.S.

As an example of the new standards, all new 42-inch television sets must use less than 183 watts by 2011 and less than 116 watts by 2013. That's considerably more efficient than flat-screen TVs placed on the market in recent years.

A 42-inch Hitachi plasma TV sold in 2007 uses 313 watts — slightly more than the power consumed by five 60-watt light bulbs — while a 42-inch Sharp Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TV draws 232 watts, according to Energy Commission research. LCDs now account for about 90 percent of the 4 million TVs sold in California annually.

Some televisions already meet the early standards imposed under the rule approved Wednesday. About three-quarters of the TVs — more than 1,050 models — sold today comply with the 2011 California standards, and more than 300 comply with the 2013 standard, according to the Energy Commission.

California has previously led the nation in setting efficiency requirements for dishwashers, washing machines and other household appliances as a way to address the state's growing electricity demand.

Utilities and environmental groups say the TV standards should head off steep increases in home electricity use and rising electric bills.

Each energy-efficient TV would save a household roughly $30 a year in lowered electricity costs. If all 35 million TVs watched in the state were replaced with more efficient sets, Californians would save $8.1 billion over 10 years, according to the Energy Commission report.

Televisions account for about 2 percent of California's overall electricity use. Requiring them to be more energy efficient would save enough electricity to power 864,000 single-family homes a year in California by 2023. That's enough for Anaheim, Burbank, Glendale and Palo Alto combined.

The electricity savings could help California meet the goals of its 2006 global warming law, which calls for the state to cut greenhouse gases 25 percent by 2020.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the commission's action as another signal of California's leadership on environmental matters. He noted that the state's per-capita electricity consumption has remained flat over the last three decades while energy consumption nationwide has increased.

"I applaud the commission for its hard work to enact these and other cost-effective energy efficiency standards that are not only great for the environment, but also good for consumers," the governor said in a statement.


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They are turning into eco-extremist out west.

Hell, my old 50" DLP only cost about $5 month to operate according the the math. That's not a lot of energy.

The rational people in seats of power out there need to get a hold of these whack jobs. It could spiral down to the point where they start requiring solar powered homes. Or recycling your own urine for drinking water. Kind of joking, but not...

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If you don't work, the benefits are just too good!

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And they wonder why that state is so fucking broke. Let the people buy what they want, shit.
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I am in California at the moment. I can tell you atleast here in northern california my neighbors and alot of people I meet are tired of the bullshit.

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Hell, my old 50" DLP only cost about $5 months to operate according the the math. That's not a lot of energy.
Actually, DLP's are really energy efficient compared to Plasma's and LCD TV's. Plasma's are freaking energy pigs. What's sad is that the old CRT's are the most energy efficient.

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California is facing a $21b budget shortfall after cutting $24b out of it.

They would rather regulate tv power usage than get rid of the giveaway programs that cater to illegals. Hippies and liberals in power.

Working out here has really opened my eyes to the lunacy. The company that i'm doing work for is going for some kind of "green" ISO certification (I think it's 14001). They are deathly serious about it. We spent untold man hours studying the material and having meetings and prepping for the ISO audit.

Then I was out for two days of work sick when the audit was ongoing (hell, I really didn't feel well, it came at a great time), and when I got back I spent a lot of time avoiding the auditors that were still roving around, asking questions LOL..... but the cost? Probably at least 1.5 man days of my time, and 1.5 man days of everyone else's time too for that matter. Thats a lot of lost productivity.

Is it any wonder that the state is going broke with companies having nutty priorities like these?
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When is that fucking state just going to break off into the Pacific??

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It won't The fault zone is only like 7 miles deep.


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I am in California at the moment. I can tell you atleast here in northern california my neighbors and alot of people I meet are tired of the bullshit.
im from the east bay and alot of the people i know out there feel the same. glad i got the fuck out.

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One curious thing.

Vizio is totally on board with it. They were already in the process of switching all of their TVs away from Plasma. They have said that all of their TVs will soon be LED back lit. That is even more energy efficient than a DLP. Vizio states that they have 40 models that already meet the new standards.

I also read that over 850 TV models already exceed the standard.

So my question is, why bother with the regulation? Everyone is already doing it or in the process of doing it with no government intervention. Oh wait, this is California we're talking about. Nevermind..

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Yeah, libs and hippies in power = everyone's broke. In a different thread, I called atheists stupid. Liberals are typically atheist. The socialistic liberalism that breaks California is very fucking stupid. I guess there is a connection, after all. Sorry, not trying to start a flame war or anything over some religious bullshit. Just a thought that popped into my head.
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