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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-26-2009, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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Islam acting a fool again...

Silly Palestinians... don't they know Jerusalem (and the rest of Israel) belongs to the Jews?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/1...ast26.article#



More retarded Islamic crap, this time from Canada. Where is AL P's brother, Stang Seller?
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/215683

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...ans-jews.aspx#
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Silly Palestinians... don't they know Jerusalem (and the rest of Israel) belongs to the Jews?
Probably has something to do with the dome of the rock sitting on the temple mount...... once the covenant is reached, look out!
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What's retarded about the article from The Star? (I admittedly only skimmed it)
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post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-29-2009, 11:23 AM
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whats retarded is that they are still fighting over this same spot for over 1000 years.

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if an asteriod hits that place are we supposed to continue to fight over the rubble?
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whats retarded is that they are still fighting over this same spot for over 1000 years.
A little longer than that
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A little longer than that
ok since the 7th century AD, so about 1300 years

so in that time we had
jews v muslims
christians v jews
muslims + christians v jews
muslims v jews
muslims v christians v jews
christians v jews
christian v muslims

all 3 religions are fighting over the same plot of land, in the name of the exact same god.

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ok since the 7th century AD, so about 1300 years

so in that time we had
jews v muslims
christians v jews
muslims + christians v jews
muslims v jews
muslims v christians v jews
christians v jews
christian v muslims

all 3 religions are fighting over the same plot of land, in the name of the exact same god.
Heh... there were others fighting over it with the Jews before Christianity and Islam.

And no, NOT the same God.
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And no, NOT the same God.
what do you mean? is it not the god of abraham?

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what do you mean? is it not the god of abraham?
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what do you mean? is it not the god of abraham?
Nope. Islam believes that God told Abraham to sacrifice Ishmael on top of Mt. Moriah while Judaism believes Isaac was the one. The Jews are the decendants of Isaac and believe that they are God's chosen people. The Muslims are decendants of Ishmael and believe they are God's chosen people.

God spkoe to the prophets of Israel and told them one thing. Allah spoke to Muhammad and told him something else. Someone's wrong here.

As far as Judaism and Christianity goes; Jesus is the Son of God and came to earth as a mortal and God. The Jews do not recognize this, so how can this be the same God?








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Nope. Islam believes that God told Abraham to sacrifice Ishmael on top of Mt. Moriah while Judaism believes Isaac was the one. The Jews are the decendants of Isaac and believe that they are God's chosen people. The Muslims are decendants of Ishmael and believe they are God's chosen people.

God spkoe to the prophets of Israel and told them one thing. Allah spoke to Muhammad and told him something else. Someone's wrong here.

As far as Judaism and Christianity goes; Jesus is the Son of God and came to earth as a mortal and God. The Jews do not recognize this, so how can this be the same God?


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so it was the god of abraham, he just said something different to his to sons. and the god is the same as the christians, though the god did something different at one point in time.
and what about jesus, christians say he was the son of god and will return, muslims say he was a profit of god and will return, jews say he was a false profit. seems like this also comes down to interpretation rather then being a totally different god

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so it was the god of abraham, he just said something different to his to sons. and the god is the same as the christians, though the god did something different at one point in time.
and what about jesus, christians say he was the son of god and will return, muslims say he was a profit of god and will return, jews say he was a false profit. seems like this also comes down to interpretation rather then being a totally different god
Ya... no. Abraham didn't tell his sons anything different. Each one BELIEVES their worshiping the true God, but all of them can't be if they believe something different. Anyone that says Jesus isn't Son of God and a part of the Trinity, then they are not a Christian because they don't worship the same God. If you say Muhammad wasn't a prophet of allah and walked with him, then you can't be a Muslim because you don't worship the same god. If you follow Isaac's liniage from Abraham and wait for the Messiah's initial return as Jews do, then you obviously don't worship the same God as the Christians because your reject Jesus as God. See how that works?
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Ya... no. Abraham didn't tell his sons anything different. Each one BELIEVES their worshiping the true God, but all of them can't be if they believe something different. Anyone that says Jesus isn't Son of God and a part of the Trinity, then they are not a Christian because they don't worship the same God. If you say Muhammad wasn't a prophet of allah and walked with him, then you can't be a Muslim because you don't worship the same god. If you follow Isaac's liniage from Abraham and wait for the Messiah's initial return as Jews do, then you obviously don't worship the same God as the Christians because your reject Jesus as God. See how that works?
it still seems like different variations of the same god. its like same god different religion. if god creates man, and man creates religion, then it would be safe to assume that if the same god appeared to 3 different men over a 5000 year period, you would have 3 totally different religions.

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religion....blah...why not just wait and see whose right instead of KILLING other people for their beliefs? This is why i am not religious in any shape or form.

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it still seems like different variations of the same god. its like same god different religion. if god creates man, and man creates religion, then it would be safe to assume that if the same god appeared to 3 different men over a 5000 year period, you would have 3 totally different religions.
Have you read any of their books? I read nowhere where man created the religion. Leave that to Buddhists, Hindus and other cultures trying to achieve "enlightenment."
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religion....blah...why not just wait and see whose right instead of KILLING other people for their beliefs? This is why i am not religious in any shape or form.
I totally agree. I don't believe in religion either. It is about a personal relationship with god.
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Have you read any of their books? I read nowhere where man created the religion. Leave that to Buddhists, Hindus and other cultures trying to achieve "enlightenment."
religion is a bureaucracy, its all man man. Henry VIII, Martin Luther, among a few others created their own religions. oh and lets bot forget the Pope, he is a mortal man as well, yet each year issues 100s of edicts and modifications to the religion. if you look at the bible, over the course of its existence, man has edited it thousands of times, adding stories and removing stories.

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Actually CAnnonball, the Bible has remained very constant. The scrolls found from the era of the Bible days match the books of today. No other book is like that or sales more copies.
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Actually CAnnonball, the Bible has remained very constant. The scrolls found from the era of the Bible days match the books of today. No other book is like that or sales more copies.
actually many of these old scrolls tell an entirely different story, we have seen the gnostic books. when comparing the old testament to whats found in Judaism its also quite different, lots of stuff was left out of the christian version. and of course you can go though catholic versions of the bible and see changes with every pope. and then we come to the protestants who removed whole sections of the book. 150 years ago an American protestant bible included 4 named angels, in todays bible we are down to just one or two (whos killing off the angels?) just this summer there was a debate among protestant churches on weather or not to remove the Sermon on the Mount story from the bible.

the basic msesage remains similar, but the details, are constantly being altered.

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actually many of these old scrolls tell an entirely different story, we have seen the gnostic books. when comparing the old testament to whats found in Judaism its also quite different, lots of stuff was left out of the christian version. and of course you can go though catholic versions of the bible and see changes with every pope. and then we come to the protestants who removed whole sections of the book. 150 years ago an American protestant bible included 4 named angels, in todays bible we are down to just one or two (whos killing off the angels?) just this summer there was a debate among protestant churches on weather or not to remove the Sermon on the Mount story from the bible.

the basic msesage remains similar, but the details, are constantly being altered.
You've read the Scrolls?!?! And LOL @ "we have seen the gnostic books."
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A little longer than that
I know, what a bunch of bullshit. Who even cares, in modern times? It's my understanding that waaaay back when, like 4000 years ago, it was like more fertile land or something. Well shit. We have something these days called irrigation, fellas. Yall should look into it. They could build a giant metropolis on their own turf, but fight over bullshit instead. Why don't they just say "You know what... fuck it. Yall can have it. We'll build way better shit than you, even without it." And then focus on becoming something worthwhile. It's sad to be able to see what humanity could be, and see what they choose to be instead.
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