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Seems Obama wasn't happy with federal safeguards protecting Americans from teh Swine Flu and declared it a national emergency so he could bypass them. What's next?
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Seems Obama wasn't happy with federal safeguards protecting Americans from teh Swine Flu and declared it a national emergency so he could bypass them. What's next?
Obama is trying real dammed hard to make the N1H1 virus some kind of crisis. Why? I have no idea. Seems to me that it has moved thru most of our schools now, and for all intents and purposes it has run it's course.
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If indeed it is a crisis, it became so entirely on his watch and the blame falls on him for not getting the vaccine out fast enough. At least this provides a good snapshot of how inept a system Obamacare would be.
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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt

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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt
Crisis? Lol. A quick google search shows that fewer than 500 have died from it. That in my eyes is far from a crisis. A crisis would be tens of thousands dead. And I DARE somebody to try and make me take anything, they'll need a helluva lot more than a needle, or nose syringe I'll tell you that.
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The federal authorities can't even get the vaccine to those who want to take it, much less to those that don't. The big downside to waiting until tens of thousands are dead is that by then it would be too late for mass vaccinations to have the desired effect.
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There's some other motive here this flu is bullshit.

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http://www.naturalnews.com/027330_fe...emic_H1N1.html

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt
you can't be that fucking stupid, right?

forced everyone to get the vaccine!?!?!? wow
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Forced vaccinations is not the answer.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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If the H1N1 really was an issue, you'd see the CDC shut down enormous gatherings like NFL games. This is just bs and the government wanting money and control
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It's just another angle for him to force socialized medicine on us all.

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I would like to see a comparison of the yearly H1N1 deaths and seasonal influenza deaths.
I would be willing to bet the two would not be much different. I also am one that believes that the swine flu is just media/government hype.


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This move by Obama is a bullet in the gun for martial law. The gun is cocked and loaded, it's only a matter of time now.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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I would like to see a comparison of the yearly H1N1 deaths and seasonal influenza deaths.
I would be willing to bet the two would not be much different. I also am one that believes that the swine flu is just media/government hype.


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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt
So you would really would be ok with forced vaccinations?

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I think hes making it a "crisis" so he can go on to say which ones died with out health insurance so he can help get federalized health care pushed through.Its just a dog/pony show like anything else.I bet lots more people die from aids/cancer than z pig flu.
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"it was once said that a black man would be president "when pigs fly" indeed 100 days into his presidency.....swine flu
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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt


Are you being serious? Hopefully not. The H1N1 is TOTALLY blown out of proportion. Seasonal Flu has claimed more lives by far then this flu. And this so-called h1n1 vaccine--yeah right, they took a preservative free & thimerasol free seasonal flu vaccine, changed up one strain and Boom there's your h1n1 vax! Was not throughourly tested, is actually still in testing and b/c of this MANY people will go without the seasonal flu vax which is worse b/c the gov't had all manufacturers stop production of the seasonal flu.

Something else, all these h1n1 "exposures" aren't 100% legit. Testing for h1n1 is only 40% correct distinguishing the virus. The main reason it's being blown up the way it is b/c it's not technically regular flu season so they are blaming the h1n1. It could be either one.

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I just head that people WITHOUT insurance will have priority over others to get the Pig Flu vaccine.

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I just head that people WITHOUT insurance will have priority over others to get the Pig Flu vaccine.
Got to get rid of the useless eaters first.

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I just head that people WITHOUT insurance will have priority over others to get the Pig Flu vaccine.
Priority is actually going to healthcare facilities that have direct contact with children since they have been the most affected by it. From what I heard, or possible to ER Dept. employees.

This might get messy, making this into a national emergency will make many people panic and feel they have to get this vaccine or fear the worst. Allocations of the H1N1 are already in Texas, and pretty pathetic to say the least.

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This might get messy, making this into a national emergency will make many people panic and feel they have to get this vaccine or fear the worst. Allocations of the H1N1 are already in Texas, and pretty pathetic to say the least.
Maybe fights will break out as the unvaccinated hordes queue up to get theirs, with innocent women and children being run over by the stampeding sheeple.
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It's a crying shame people will stand in line for poison, but no one wants to stand or bother with a tyrannical government.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Priority is actually going to healthcare facilities that have direct contact with children since they have been the most affected by it. From what I heard, or possible to ER Dept. employees.

This might get messy, making this into a national emergency will make many people panic and feel they have to get this vaccine or fear the worst. Allocations of the H1N1 are already in Texas, and pretty pathetic to say the least.
My statement was correct. I didn't say "top priority", but the "uninsured" will be ahead of the rest of us as far as availability.

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My statement was correct. I didn't say "top priority", but the "uninsured" will be ahead of the rest of us as far as availability.
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you can't be that fucking stupid, right?

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I was being sarcastic

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It's a crying shame people will stand in line for poison, but no one wants to stand or bother with a tyrannical government.
Exactly , wait until their waiting in like for soup in the next great depression.
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it is a crisis, and everybody knew it was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. Obama should have forced everyone to get the vaccine making it harder for the flu to spread. instead all obama did was cut a little red tape so that people could get the vaccine in places other then a doctors office or hospital, now we are not going to be able to keep tabs on who got the vaccine and who didnt
You sir, can go fuck yourself. I'll be goddamned if you, Obama, or anyone else tries to force me or my family to take a vaccine. I'll die for my rights, and kill anyone in my way. You, Obama, and everyone else included.
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Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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I was being sarcastic

Bull Shit!

You were being the same dumbass that claims to be a conservative you always are.
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If this is all driven by a government or large company you have to ask yourself the question. Which people are gonna live, the ones that get the vaccine or the ones that don't. Maybe it was a government (any government) experiment that was designed to thin out the herd.
I know most government employees have had the shot.

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And yet Obama and his family haven't. He was saying it's because there's not enough. Yeah, I'm buying that
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If this is all driven by a government or large company you have to ask yourself the question. Which people are gonna live, the ones that get the vaccine or the ones that don't. Maybe it was a government (any government) experiment that was designed to thin out the herd.
I know most government employees have had the shot.
Bullshit, back that up with proof rather than talking out of your ass yet again dumbass.
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Bullshit, back that up with proof rather than talking out of your ass yet again dumbass.
I know it was offered to us in LE but I declined. I have a friend who is a neurologist and when we talked about H1N1 he laughed and said this is way over as far as a vaccine helping. He bets there will be another come along in 12-18 months that will make this one look like a joke.

I hope 5.0 was trying to say government employees had first shot at it (actually it was first responders) and not that they have actually all had the vaccine. With him you never know though.

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lol....this whole thread is funny. we run out flu shots every year, we never have enough. More people die from "the flu" than swine flu. the government can never enforce a "everybody must be given a shot" nor is it legal.

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LOL. The world hasn't killed me yet, and I'll be damned if anyone's going to "force" me to take a vaccine.

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I hope 5.0 was trying to say government employees had first shot at it (actually it was first responders) and not that they have actually all had the vaccine. With him you never know though.
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I know most government employees have had the shot.
Nah, "most government employees" it what it says and that's a lot of folks.

The "I know" lead-in alone is ironclad proof he doesn't know jack shit.
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I know it was offered to us in LE but I declined. I have a friend who is a neurologist and when we talked about H1N1 he laughed and said this is way over as far as a vaccine helping. He bets there will be another come along in 12-18 months that will make this one look like a joke.

I hope 5.0 was trying to say government employees had first shot at it (actually it was first responders) and not that they have actually all had the vaccine. With him you never know though.
Your right I should have said "had the opportunity". They even get a little sticker that says they have been vaccinated.

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