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Gallup poll: Worst drop in approval rating in 50 years

This is getting pretty bad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...50-years.html#

Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years
The decline in Barack Obama's popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Published: 7:38PM BST 22 Oct 2009

Barack Obama's popularity has fallen steeply since being elected last year

Gallup recorded an average daily approval rating of 53 per cent for Mr Obama for the third quarter of the year, a sharp drop from the 62 per cent he recorded from April.

His current approval rating hovering just above the level that would make re-election an uphill struggle is close to the bottom for newly-elected president. Mr Obama entered the White House with a soaring 78 per cent approval rating.

The bad polling news came as Mr Obama returned to the campaign trail to prevent his Democratic party losing two governorships next month in states in which he defeated Senator John McCain in last November's election.

Jeffrey Jones of Gallup explained: "The dominant political focus for Obama in the third quarter was the push for health care reform, including his nationally televised address to Congress in early September.

"Obama hoped that Congress would vote on health care legislation before its August recess, but that goal was missed, and some members of Congress faced angry constituents at town hall meetings to discuss health care reform. Meanwhile, unemployment continued to climb near 10 per cent."

Governor Jon Corzine of New Jersey is in severe danger of defeat while Democrats are fast losing hope that Creigh Deeds can beat his Republican opponent in Virginia. Twin Democratic losses would be a major blow to Mr Obama's prestige.

Campaigning for Mr Corzine in Hackensack on Wednesday night, Mr Obama delivered a plea that almost seemed as much for himself as the local candidate: "I'm here today to urge you to cast aside the cynics and the sceptics, and prove to all Americans that leaders who do what's right and who do what's hard will be rewarded and not rejected."

Mr Corzine, a former Goldman Sachs executive and multi-millionaire, is currently running even in New Jersey, which is normally comfortably Democratic, while Mr Deeds is trailing badly in Virginia, a swing state that was key to Mr Obama's 2008 victory.

Mr Obama is also facing widespread criticism for his drawn-out decision-making process over what to do next in Afghanistan.

Republicans sense Mr Obama is in a vulnerable position and this week saw the return to the public stage of his perhaps most vehement opponent Vice-President Dick Cheney.

In a blistering speech on Wednesday night, he accused Mr Obama of failing to give Americans troops on the ground a clear mission or defined goals and of being seemingly "afraid to make a decision" about Afghanistan "The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger," Cheney said at the Center for Security Policy in Washington.

"Make no mistake, signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries."

He hit out at Obama aides who suggested that the Bush administration had failed to weigh up conditions in Afghanistan properly before committing troops.

"Now they seem to be pulling back and blaming others for their failure to implement the strategy they embraced. It's time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity."
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They think it's bad now, just wait until they push out that steaming turd of a health-care bill.

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They think it's bad now, just wait until they push out that steaming turd of a health-care bill.
That and the climate bill will be the final straw.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Next comes the most rapid rise in popularity EVAR!!!!
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They think it's bad now, just wait until they push out that steaming turd of a health-care bill.
I've been wondering what's going on with that. They seem to be kinda stalled out on it or something.
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Looks like the honeymoon is over. This asshole needs to stop blaming Bush and take ownership of this country and its problems. He also needs to keep his promise of transparency although I knew he never would.
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I really don't know why people let politicians who bald faced lie like that, stay in office as soon as it's figured out that they lied. If it were up to me, the second they didn't deliver, or went back on the promise, it's the unemployment line. So don't say shit you can't do, and don't lie. I mean, if you watch any of his speeches, or any time he freaking talks, he just comes right out and boldly lies. The other ones at least try to be slimy and cover their own ass with the typical "Well, you never really know how it's gonna go" and "Well we'll see what we can do..." and maybe avoid the question all together (which anyone can easily see through) and all that. He just spits the lies right out, as if he were telling a flat fact that he 100% believed.
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if he would quit doing late night talk shows with david letterman he might have a better approvl rating!

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I can't believe it took him being elected for people to realize he was a LIAR , and PUPPET.
That is what is sad. People can't see through his shit. So they elected him........it's unbelievable. When are the DEMOCRATS, especially, going to wakeup. OR for that matter anyone unwilling to do 15minutes worth of research on a candidate they are going to vote for.
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That and the climate bill will be the final straw.
When everyone finds out their 401's won't last a year in retirement when the value of the dollar is 1/10 what it was when they saved it.

Obama is stealing money from everyone that has savings to pay for his liberal socialist plans.

under cap and trade the cost of energy will go up 3x or more
under obamacare the cost will be higher and the services will decline
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Yeah, but don't they do some kind of climate change bill crap, like every 4 or 5 years? I seem to remember them forcing the auto industry (and others) to decrease their percentage of greenhouse gasses every so often. Unless, maybe I misunderstand what this newer bill is about... it just kinda sounds kinda like the same old shit they been doing since the 70's.
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Yeah, but don't they do some kind of climate change bill crap, like every 4 or 5 years? Unless, maybe I misunderstand what this newer bill is about... it just kinda sounds kinda like the same old shit they been doing since the 70's.
here is a CBS report: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09...y5314040.shtml

Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year

The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.

A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration's estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.
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So basically, they want to clean up the atmosphere, but it's going to cost a lot of money.
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It doesn't clean anything. They are still producing, but prices and government revenue goes up. Oh and China and India want US to pay for their pollution because they "need to catch up to us."
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I haven't read the whole thing. If it doesn't clean anything, then what to they propose that it actually does?
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I haven't read the whole thing. If it doesn't clean anything, then what to they propose that it actually does?
In a nutshell it creates more government income to pay for all of these socialist programs by taxing emissions of, say, a power plant, which the electric provider will then pass on to you.

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Hmm. Wonder why they think this cleans anything then, if it's not going for more strict emissions regulations or something like that.
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they don't want to clean up the air

it's just a way to control people by stealing their money
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I haven't read the whole thing. If it doesn't clean anything, then what to they propose that it actually does?
It is a wealth redistribution program. You throttle the economy of nations that are doing well via taxes on all kinds of activity, and then redistribute the money to 3rd world nations, or not - some politicians have a vested interest in the green movement.

Politicians such as Al Gore. He is heavily invested in companies that trade carbon credits. You think he's done that out of the goodness of his heart? Nope. Follow the money.

And such a tax burden weakens the US. You think that any communist countries might have an interest in doing that? What famous communist is now majorly on board with the "green" movement? Do a google search on "communist green movement" and you'll find out. It's gorbachev, head of green cross international.

Now you have to ask yourself, why would a life long communist be involved in such an organization?
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From what I understand, if all of the countries in the world adopted the "Kyoto Treaty", which the "cap and trade" bill is modeled after, it would only lower the planet's emissions by a miniscule bit. If they want to lower emission standards they need to let us set up more Nuclear Power Plants in addition to more solar and windmill power, but they refuse to.
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Now that I completely agree with. It's my understanding that, the way they build new modern nuclear power plants, even in the worst possible scenario, nothing is going to happen because the radioactive element is underground. Sure, your ass better not go trying to dig a deep well around there, but it's not going to be chernobyl all over again. I think that it's the age old greed adage that's keeping nuclear power out: "If it's free, where do you put the meter?"
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Now that I completely agree with. It's my understanding that, the way they build new modern nuclear power plants, even in the worst possible scenario, nothing is going to happen because the radioactive element is underground. Sure, your ass better not go trying to dig a deep well around there, but it's not going to be chernobyl all over again. I think that it's the age old greed adage that's keeping nuclear power out: "If it's free, where do you put the meter?"
Well, I've heard that excuse, I've also heard the excuse that a terrorist could take over a nuclear power plant. It's like, listen, we could cut emissions just by building more nuclear power plants. I agree that we can't just drill offshore, and build nuke plants, BUT we still have to drill offshore and build more nuke plants especially if they want to cut emissions. Building wind farms and using solar techniques, along with flex fuel cars WON'T make us energy dependant.
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Well, I've heard that excuse, I've also heard the excuse that a terrorist could take over a nuclear power plant.

I'd like to see them try. There was an ad in my local paper, for security guards for the Glen Rose TX nuclear power plant. The ad stated that you would need to not have a problem carrying an automatic MP5 while on duty. So probly what...50 guards, carrying automatic weapons, and monitoring a very high tech security system, VS what... 8-12 Terrorists? 20 terrorists at most? A suicide mission for the terrorists, and not the kind of suicide that they want. And even if they managed to breach, one of the guards is going to call the freaking SWAT team, (or whoever). I agree, a pathetic excuse indeed. So that excuse is out. Then due to the way they are built these days, the enviro factor is out. Unless there is some possibility of it failing and acting as a nuclear bomb? You wouldn't think so, but hell I don't know.
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I'd like to see them try. There was an ad in my local paper, for security guards for the Glen Rose TX nuclear power plant. The ad stated that you would need to not have a problem carrying an automatic MP5 while on duty. So probly what...50 guards, carrying automatic weapons, and monitoring a very high tech security system, VS what... 8-12 Terrorists? 20 terrorists at most? A suicide mission for the terrorists, and not the kind of suicide that they want. And even if they managed to breach, one of the guards is going to call the freaking SWAT team, (or whoever). I agree, a pathetic excuse indeed. So that excuse is out. Then due to the way they are built these days, the enviro factor is out. Unless there is some possibility of it failing and acting as a nuclear bomb? You wouldn't think so, but hell I don't know.
I have a theory that maybe because so many liberals (mostly the extreme kind) associate nuclear power plants with nuclear weapons, that they psychologically have a dislike of building nuclear power plants.
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