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Interesting email

Here's to hoping that Obama IS illegal and replaced

From The Desk Of Gary G. Kreep

Dear Concerned Friend,



Barack Obama is sweating it out after his Department of Justice (“DOJ”) attorneys walked into court expecting United States Federal District Court Judge David Carter to dismiss the birth certificate case. Why you ask? Simply because they “think” Obama is President. Their arguments were hollow and unconvincing. and after hearing hours of argument, the Judge Carter “took the matter under submission.” He has still not issued a ruling, 10 days later!

Is The President Above The Law and the Courts?

DOJ attorneys tried to explain to the Judge that no Court in the United States had the jurisdiction to rule on whether Barack Hussein Obama was eligible to serve as President of the United States? In their view he could only be impeached and/or disqualified from the Office of President under the 25th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution.

NOT TRUE! USJF pointed out to the Court that both the impeachment statutes, and the 25th Amendment required a sitting President, but if Mr. Obama is not eligible to serve as President, he could not be, and never was, a sitting President, so those options for removal could not apply. Therefore the courts would have jurisdiction.

HELP US MAKE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PROVE IF HE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: CLICK HERE NOW!

Monday, October 5, 2009, , at 8:30 a.m., in California, was a critical milestone for our entire legal and public relations effort to force Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate and to prove whether he is eligible to serve as President of the United States. And with your support USJF was able to be there to argue the case.

The case has an excellent chance to survive the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) motion to dismiss what has proven to be the best chance for America to have a hearing on the merits of this critical Constitutional issue.

What happened that day in Court? It’s very simple—the DOJ attorneys brought up every argument that they could to try to persuade the Court to dismiss this case

USJF provided sound legal arguments against the DOJ legal theories; otherwise the whole case could have been over right then and there! The USJF oral arguments will be the difference between this case surviving or being dismissed.

The Judge raised issues critical to our case:

1. Did Senators question the eligibility of Mr. Obama? (Only Senators Coburn and Shelby and a number of House members.)

2. Were objections made by Members of Congress when the vote of the Electoral College was certified? (NO, then Vice-President Cheney had not performed his required duty of asking for objections, so there could have been none raised.)

DOJ attorneys argued that only Congress, and/or the Electoral College, could decide on the eligibility of Mr. Obama. Fortunately, the USJF legal team filed pleadings pointing out that the DOJ legal arguments in this regard WERE WRONG! And, I was there to argue against those claims.

People at the hearing and those who have found out what happened there since have been contacting USJF, thanking us for standing up for the truth!

But the fight is not over yet! We expect a ruling from the Court any day now. If we defeat the dismissal motion, then we’re immediately filing pleadings (“discovery”) seeking Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, his college records, and so much more. AND, we’ll be seeking to depose Mr. Obama ASAP!

And if the Court grants the motion to dismiss, we’ll be immediately filing an appeal of the decision!

But we can only do this if we have your financial support!

Judge Carter has set a trial date of January 26, 2010 in this case. To keep that date, we need to defeat the DOJ dismissal motion, and then, IMMEDIATELY, move right into the discovery phase discussed above. BUT THAT WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE WILL NEED TO:
Retain attorneys in Washington, D. C., to take the Obama deposition.
Retain attorneys in Hawaii to take the deposition of those in control of the Obama birth records and school records.
Take the deposition of Occidental, College officials to obtain Obama school records
We will have to retain attorneys in Massachusetts to take the deposition of Harvard. Law School officials to obtain Obama school records.
Pay the cost of the court reporters for all of these depositions. Plus,
Pay the cost of serving the subpoenas on the various witnesses.


HELP US MAKE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PROVE IF HE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: CLICK HERE NOW!

We expect the DOJ, as well as Mr. Obama’s private attorneys, to fight us every step of the way! Obama attorneys will file motions to block the depositions in each and every state, and the District of Columbia by the Obama defense team!

WE WILL NEED MORE HELP TO:
Question the issue of the passport files of Mr. Obama! We’re going to be going after the records of how he traveled abroad without a United States Passport in the 1980’s, as he admits doing.
Question the issue of his alleged adoption by his step-father in Indonesia! We’ll be seeking records about that also!
Resolve questions about his Selective Service files! We’ll be seeking records concerning that also!
But, first, we have to get past the DOJ dismissal motion!

The DOJ’s motion to dismiss also claims that our clients have no “standing,” that the Federal Court does not have “jurisdiction” to hear this case, and that the matter is “political.”

But, if we as citizens of the United States have no “standing” to verify the citizenship of the man occupying the White House, who does? If our Federal Courts have no jurisdiction to hear this case, who does? It’s not a “political” question, it’s a CONSTITUTIONAL question!

Last November, people said we were crazy to pursue this issue. Now, we’ve been shown to be right in our pursuit of the truth. It’s not just the original birth certificate that they’re refusing to release. Barack Obama’s legal team has spent, according to published reports, over $1.4 million dollars so far to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents, and many other documents.

WHAT is Barack Obama trying to hide? WHAT is he afraid of? WHY doesn’t he just release these documents to prove he is a natural-born citizen and therefore qualified to be president -- especially his actual birth certificate?

When Barack Obama officially entered the office of President, he became, in essence, a "pretender to the throne." According to the Constitution, only a "natural born citizen" can occupy the presidency.

Even though he was sworn in on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama is NOT legally the President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a "natural born citizen."

What's more, every action taken by him while he occupies the White House may be invalid. If he cannot legally be President, every law passed by Congress will be null and void because the Constitution clearly requires that all laws be signed by the President... and, without a legally elected and sworn in President in office, that becomes an impossibility.

This crisis must be ended! And it must be ended NOW!
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-18-2009, 03:16 PM
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freakin werd!

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Impeach the alien and shut down the Federal Reserve, we would be off to a hell of a start towards a republic we can all be proud of.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Did you guys see this? http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2...a-kenyan-born/

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Last week, the U.S. Treasury announced that Washington Democrats rang up a $1.42 trillion budget deficit in 2009 - the single largest in American history. But that isn't slowing their push for more government spending, a jobs-killing national energy tax, and a costly government takeover of health care. Republicans have a better budget solution that curbs spending, cuts taxes and creates new jobs, and gets control of the national debt. Here's more on these and other issues on our radar this week:

CURBING SPENDING AND CREATING NEW JOBS. Republicans countered the trillion-dollar "stimulus" and $3.6 trillion budget with better plans that would curb government spending and actually help small businesses create new jobs.

Dems' Spending Spree Yields $1.42 Trillion Deficit, "Most Red Ink Ever Amassed in a Single Year"


Boehner: American People Are Wondering, "Where Are the Jobs?"
"READ THE BILL" FIGHT PICKS UP STEAM. Republicans took another step last week in the fight to make Congress more transparent and accountable by introducing legislation to prevent "phantom amendments" from being added to bills after they've been voted on.
Jenkins Introduces Bill to Ban "Phantom Amendments"


Boehner to Obama: Let CSPAN Cover the Health Care Meetings
DEMOCRATS DROP THE HAMMER ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. The Senate Finance Committee approved a costly Democratic health care proposal that will radically increase government spending and raise costs on families and small businesses.
Senate Democrats "Dropped the Hammer on the Middle Class"


Will More Government Spending and Mandates Fix Health Care? No.


Senate Democrats Voting to Raise Health Care Costs on Families & Small Businesses, Increase Spending
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Republicans have a better budget solution that curbs spending, cuts taxes and creates new jobs, and gets control of the national debt.
I'm sorry, but I laughed at this. They may not run up the deficit as fast, but it would definetely still climb under Republicans.
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I'm sorry, but I laughed at this. They may not run up the deficit as fast, but it would definetely still climb under Republicans.
are you seriously using this as some sort of arguement?
The difference would be night and day. The republicans are the only ones that have opposed all this rediculous spending that has TRIPLED the deficit.
This isn't something that is even remotely close, SORRY TRY AGAIN
Have you looked at the numbers ?

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are you seriously using this as some sort of arguement?
The difference would be night and day. The republicans are the only ones that have opposed all this rediculous spending that has TRIPLED the deficit.
This isn't something that is even remotely close, SORRY TRY AGAIN
Have you looked at the numbers ?
Durrr, I said it would be different. But there would still be a deficit and the national debt would still climb no matter what jokers are in office. Those are the numbers.
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are you seriously using this as some sort of arguement?
The difference would be night and day. The republicans are the only ones that have opposed all this rediculous spending that has TRIPLED the deficit.
This isn't something that is even remotely close, SORRY TRY AGAIN
Have you looked at the numbers ?
DISCLAIMER: I am a republican.

However, in response to your post, just because they oppose the spending doesn;t mean they know how to fix the problem. As far as the original post, sounds like a nigerian bank scam to me.

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Is there any way we can take a mulligan and try it again?

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When I hear his voice I instantly mute it. The guy seriously has that adverse an affect on me...
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I just do not see any court in the United States taking this all the way. I would bet the motion to dismiss is granted on some bullshit like its a matter of national security.

Even if they do prove he's not eligible, who's going to force him out of office? Republicans?? Hell they are a bunch of pussies that have to have Glenn Beck and Hannity do all their speaking for them. Those assholes have no back bone right now.

I'm sure Obama has his ass covered one way or another. The cost of putting him into office was far to great for him to be removed.
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If you search for any mention of his name before 2006, you will find a lot of reports that call him "the Kenyan born American"

http://www.modernghana.com/news2/189...-go-obama.html

Look up Obama vs. Alan Keyes debate, Keys pointed out the the obama was not born here, and the obama replyed "So, I not running for president".

Seriously.... See if you can find it. C Span aired it



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Honor is not holding your hand out for something you did not earn.
Honor is not forcing your ideas, or belief on others.
Honor is not something given to you by way of job, or title.

Honor is learned, earned, practiced and respected by all decent men and women.
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I'm sure Obama has his ass covered one way or another. The cost of putting him into office was far to great for him to be removed.

I would have to agree on the money thing..... But if his approval #'s keep falling. They (his handlers/money men) may just write him off.



All men should know Honor first, above all else!

Honor is not holding your hand out for something you did not earn.
Honor is not forcing your ideas, or belief on others.
Honor is not something given to you by way of job, or title.

Honor is learned, earned, practiced and respected by all decent men and women.
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forever_frost, before I read that email too thoroughly...

1. Who exactly is that email from?
2. What makes it credible? Or was that not your intent?

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I don't remember who sent it to me, however I googled the name and here is what I got:

http://www.desertconservative.com/.....s-obama-sweats
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I don't remember who sent it to me, however I googled the name and here is what I got:

http://www.desertconservative.com/.....s-obama-sweats
Aight, I'll look up info...etc too. Just thought maybe there was something obvious that I was missing.

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