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Ayatollah Khamenei reported dead..

Was doing some research and ran across this..


What are the implications in this?

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Maybe the dumbasses will repeat the debacle that happened in 1989 when bitter old Ayatollah Khomeini's remains were dumped from his coffin by the fanatical masses at his burial site.
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Just means that Ahmadenejad will take over his position, right? At least that's what happened when the last Ayatollah died.

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Just means that Ahmadenejad will take over his position, right? At least that's what happened when the last Ayatollah died.
From what I understand the Ayatolla oddly enough was the only one holding Ahmadenajad back from going full out bat shit crazy.

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From what I understand the Ayatolla oddly enough was the only one holding Ahmadenajad back from going full out bat shit crazy.
The Ayatollah is Ahmadenajad's boss.

There is a reason he is called the "Supreme Leader"

In Iran, the Ayatollah picks the people that will run for President. He then lets the people vote for President. He has the power to remove that person if he so chooses.

Right now the "rumor" is that he is either dead or in a coma.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009...i-in-coma.html

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Here is the origination of the rumor:
http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledee...to-be-in-coma/

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This story has been floating around the net for the past day or so, but this report comes from a person who is in a position to know such things. As I know very well (having been gulled into wrongly announcing Khamenei’s death a while back), it is easy to be misled, and Khamenei has had previous medical emergencies in the past, and recovered, but the source is excellent. Nonetheless, it’s always smart to apply the Reagan Caution: Trust, but verify. I’m doing my best.

Here is what he/she says:
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Yesterday afternoon at 2.15PM local time, Khamenei collapsed and
was taken to his special clinic. Nobody – except his son and the
doctors – has since been allowed to get near him.
His official, but secret, status is: “in the hands of the gods”.

Reportedly this collapse is natural. Many would like him to move to his
afterlife but reportedly the collapse was not ‘externally induced’
[no poisioning]. The few insiders who know about the collapse see
this development “as a gift from the gods”.

His condition had already seriously deteriorated over the last
months, aggravated by his nervous condition due to [1] his
inability to solve the problems created by his manipulation of the
election results and the refusal of [a large part of] the
population to accept this, plus [2] his loss of religious authority
by means of the repeated condemnations of events by senior clerics

Reportedly the principal aims of Khamenei of the last couple of
weeks, if not months, were to ensure [1] a positive reputation as
his legacy and [2] the physical survival of his family members and
their wealth, reportedly now largely in Syria and in Turkey (remember the truck convoy of $8.5 billion in cash and gold that was seized by the Turks?).

Outlook is uncertain but speculation is – considering that he is in
coma since more than 24 hours – that he may not come out of his coma and/or that he may die very soon.

If he dies it is expected that immediately a bloody clash will
develop between the powers behind Rafsanjani, who will immediately
claim temporary religious authority and overall control, and the
powers behind Achmadinejad who will scramble in order to regain
control and ensure their survival.
UPDATE (Wednesday Oct 14th): According to a bulletin from the Greens (Moussavi/Karroubi et al), there are widespread rumors in the Tehran Bazaar that Khamenei has died. The Greens say they cannot confirm it, but that there is an “abnormal atmosphere” in the streets, which almost certainly means there are more security people than usual.

The bazaar will apparently be closed tomorrow, and perhaps Friday as well, pending developments.

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And her is some speculation that should scare the shit out of you. I emphasize that this is SPECULATION, but this guy has a good point.


http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/1...ybe-even-dead/
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Before the summer uprising, the odds-on choice to succeed him was Rafsanjani, the “pragmatist” head of the Assembly of Experts (a.k.a. Shiite College of Cardinals) that’s charged with electing a new supreme leader. But Rafsanjani was sympathetic to the protesters in June, so presumably the Revolutionary Guard — the real source of power in Iran — won’t let him come to the throne. So, then … who? One possibility is the Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, Ahmadinejad’s own personal “spiritual advisor” and a jihadist so hardcore that his top disciples have already come out publicly in favor of Iranian nuclear weapons. If he’s the pick, it’s panic time. Another possibility is that the Guard will simply finish the process started this summer and stage a full-blown military coup, installing Ahmadinejad or Jafari as dictator and taking things from there. The tricky part, obviously, would be the risk of alienating religious Iranians by doing away with clerical rule, which is why the third possibility is the likeliest — namely, finding a puppet from among the clerical ranks who can be sold to the west as a “pragmatist” or “reformist” while letting the Guard control things behind the scenes. That’s basically the scam they’re running now, although an infusion of fresh blood at the top would give them new possibilities for jerking the U.S. around with promises that the next supreme leader is someone “we can do business with.”

The odds are low but the stakes are high, so here’s your thread to speculate. Fire away.

If Rafsanjani becomes Ayatollah, then everything is cool. Hell, it could be fuckin' fantastic. But the other options mean some deep shit is gonna start brewing.

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And her is some speculation that should scare the shit out of you. I emphasize that this is SPECULATION, but this guy has a good point.


http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/1...ybe-even-dead/



If Rafsanjani becomes Ayatollah, then everything is cool. Hell, it could be fuckin' fantastic. But the other options mean some deep shit is gonna start brewing.
Well if worst comes to worst that may actually be a good thing, because it may force Israel to bomb their nuclear capability back into the stone age. God knows that obama won't do shit in any eventuality.
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Maybe the dumbasses will repeat the debacle that happened in 1989 when bitter old Ayatollah Khomeini's remains were dumped from his coffin by the fanatical masses at his burial site.
LOL...they damn near treated the body like a pinata!

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Iranian internal meltdown could be a good thing. Like mikeb says - Israel may decide it's time and blast them (further) back into the stone age.

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Haven't been here in a while, and stumbled across this thread. Ahhh how nice it would be, wishful thinking for us all it seems. Reading through that link Sgt Beavis posted up, it made mention of the US $8.5 billion that was seized in Turkey a few months back. I remember making note of it in another one of the threads back then. There is a trend developing, and if we're all lucky then the Islamic Republic is falling. He may not be dead yet, but if he were to drop dead soon we could all say the Shah prophecized the downfall of this bitter regime in 30 years.

It's been a month since anyone posted in this thread but, forgive me, it's been busy at work! Never seen so many damn Pontiac motors as I have in the few months.
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it's been busy at work! Never seen so many damn pontiac motors as i have in the few months.
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Heh 455 inside, huh? Didn't realize there were any Pontiac guys in here. We're a Mopar shop, I'm a Ford guy, and we've done a half dozen Pontiac motors in the last year with 1 more on the way. There aren't that many old Pontiac muscle cars around here, most of em rusted away years ago! Considering the economy is supposed to be in shambles, we've been hella busy doing $3-5-7k motors all year. Speaking of which, I'd better get to bed so I can get an early start... missed all of last week with the flu.
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