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Obama aide accuses Fox of operating as GOP arm

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Obama aide accuses Fox of operating as GOP arm

NEW YORK (AP) - One of President Barack Obama's top aides says Fox News Channel acts like a wing of the Republican Party.

White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told CNN's "Reliable Sources" on Sunday that Fox News operates "almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party."

It's another sign of the White House's aggressively going after Fox.

Commentators Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have been strong Obama critics, and Bill O'Reilly has taken tough looks at the administration. The president avoided Fox when he visited five Sunday morning news shows last month, and a recent White House blog post accused Beck of lying.

Fox News executive Michael Clemente says most viewers know the difference between news and opinion shows. He says attacking the messenger doesn't work.

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The blame game is played out, but they still keep doing it. Fresh new face, same old bullshit tactics. As long as we stay divided they keep us exactly where they want us. Left and right are controlled by the same bankers, and we will just keep chasing our tails until we realize it.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Pathetic. This is hope and change, and transparency?
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Fox news is simply doing their damn jobs instead of sucking off Obama.
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Fox news is simply doing their damn jobs instead of sucking off Obama.
Fox News is one sided in my opinion.
Sucking off obama? LOL! Seems like almost everyone here used to have Bush's balls in their mouths . Obama took over a fucked up economy going through a recession. The recession started while Bush was in presidencey but no one seemed to make such a big deal about it or even hold him accountable for the hole we are still in. I may not agree with all of Obama's policies including the healthcare reform issue but I am willing to give the man a chance. He has only been in office for 9 months yet you assholes expect him to fix what it took Bush 8yrs to fuck up. Be fucken realistic and hope this economy does turn for the better for everyone's sake.

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Fox is no more one sided than NBC or CNN......
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Fox News is one sided in my opinion.
Sucking off obama? LOL! Seems like almost everyone here used to have Bush's balls in their mouths . Obama took over a fucked up economy going through a recession. The recession started while Bush was in presidencey but no one seemed to make such a big deal about it or even hold him accountable for the hole we are still in. I may not agree with all of Obama's policies including the healthcare reform issue but I am willing to give the man a chance. He has only been in office for 9 months yet you assholes expect him to fix what it took Bush 8yrs to fuck up. Be fucken realistic and hope this economy does turn for the better for everyone's sake.
Well, he got a Nobel Peace Prize after 11 days in office, so with another 8.5 months he should be able to cure cancer and get us to a Star Trek Federation level of life.
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The blame game is played out, but they still keep doing it. Fresh new face, same old bullshit tactics. As long as we stay divided they keep us exactly where they want us. Left and right are controlled by the same bankers, and we will just keep chasing our tails until we realize it.
Well said.
It's just that people don't vote on what the issues are. They'll vote on who is more famous based on campaign management. If you have left and right lavishly spending money to get there face out there as well as hammering each other back and forth. It divides people. If your not right you must be left and vice-versa. Meanwhile candidate "X" could have the best case scenario and noone would vote for them except a select few. Even if they knew without a doubt that if they voted for candidate "X" it would cure cancer.

Worst of all is how the "congressional district system" is laid out so that it's almost impossible to vote someone out.

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The Bush fucked it up excuse is played out, And I don't support BUSH or OBAMA.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Sucking off obama? LOL! Seems like almost everyone here used to have Bush's balls in their mouths . Obama took over a fucked up economy going through a recession. The recession started while Bush was in presidencey but no one seemed to make such a big deal about it or even hold him accountable for the hole we are still in. I may not agree with all of Obama's policies including the healthcare reform issue but I am willing to give the man a chance. He has only been in office for 9 months yet you assholes expect him to fix what it took Bush 8yrs to fuck up. Be fucken realistic and hope this economy does turn for the better for everyone's sake.
Bush's troubles largely began when the democrats took over congress, two years before the end of his term. I'm no lover of GW, he spent like a drunken sailor by never vetoing any bill, but he isn't totally responsible for the state of the economy right now. Remember, he can only sign or veto the spending bills that congress sends him. A democratic congress got us into this mess, and the economy just keeps spiraling around the drain as the democrats keep on spending.

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Fox News is one sided in my opinion.
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a study by the Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News' stories on Obama's Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative.

On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent). The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories -- a spread of 59 points.
It looks like they are far more even handed than their competition.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ords-fox-news/
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Bush's troubles largely began when the democrats took over congress, two years before the end of his term. I'm no lover of GW, he spent like a drunken sailor by never vetoing any bill, but he isn't totally responsible for the state of the economy right now. Remember, he can only sign or veto the spending bills that congress sends him. A democratic congress got us into this mess, and the economy just keeps spiraling around the drain as the democrats keep on spending.



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It looks like they are far more even handed than their competition.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ords-fox-news/
mikeb you do have a point about the democratic congress pushing for so many spending bills to pass . I dont consider myself either democratic nor Republican. My views are solely based on the things I see everyday on these news channels . All they do is play the blame game and that goes for both Fox news and CNN. Both parties need to quit playing "who's got the bigger cock" and try to come up with some better solutions to this country's problems.

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Why does Jesus care what Fox does? Maybe he'll try to deny freedom of the press next.
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Are you guys really so delusional that you think a network carrying Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly isn't far right?

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Are you guys really so delusional that you think a network carrying Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly isn't far right?
Sean Hannity, yes. Glenn Beck... he criticizes Republicans all the time! Bill O'Reilly is obviously more conservative than liberal, but even he goes out of his way to be fair to Obama and Democrats. Have you even SEEN O'Reilly's show or are you basing your opinions off of heresay???
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Are you guys really so delusional that you think a network carrying Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly isn't far right?
It is a sad day when a guy who thinks Obama is moderate will claim O'Reilly is far right. He is conservative and traditional, but no way he is far right.

BTW, didn't the liberals claim that when they called for Bush to be sent to prison and they called him a lair and all the other hate-filled personal things they said they were just being patriotic? How amazing that attacking Obama's policies is hate, but attacking Bush personally is patriotic!

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Are you guys really so delusional that you think a network carrying Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly isn't far right?
Who cares how you label them left or right. They(all media networks) are here to divide us and keep it that way.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Sean Hannity, yes. Glenn Beck... he criticizes Republicans all the time! Bill O'Reilly is obviously more conservative than liberal, but even he goes out of his way to be fair to Obama and Democrats. Have you even SEEN O'Reilly's show or are you basing your opinions off of heresay???
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mikeb, nice job on correcting a lot of ignorance in this thread. Well done, sir.

I don't understand how anybody with the slightest grasp of common sense could not tell which news channel was piping the most sunshine up their ass. CNN does seem to me to be weening itself of the proverbial Obama Express tit and . Obviously, MSNBC is forever latched on and will always play 3rd chair to Fox and CNN when it comes to actually reporting news and current events.

If I wanna' know wtf is going on, I'll switch over to Fox. If I want to hear grade school-level jokes about teabagging, I'll watch Rachael Maddow and her wife, Keith Olberman.

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I need to go off for a second. It's going to be long-winded, but bear (bare?) with me.

I'm not suprised AT ALL about any of this. Think about it...

Democrats have a sense of entitlement. The majority of the media favor Democrats. So then comes along, big bad Fox News, and they DARE to hold liberals feet to the fire. Democrats don't like that, so they go after Fox asmuch as possible.

Does ANYBODY remember how they REFUSED to do Fox's Presidential Debate?? The only one willing to do it was Dennis Kucinich. That was a HUGE red flag to me, and nobody caught onto it. I mean, I heard a couple of people at Fox catch on, but for the most part, no one really understood how big that was. This despite the Republicans (ALL of them) doing both the CNN AND MSNBC Presidential Debates.

One of the main reasons I didn't vote for Obama, was because I felt that he wasn't "battle-tested" by the media, and because of how he ran his campaign. Barack Obama from the first moment he decided to run for President, he's tried his hardest to be likeable. He wanted to be likeable so much that he went overboard to try and seem "cool" like participating in "shootaround" with the North Carolina Tar Heels.

We didn't know too much about him, because his campaign marketed him for what he COULD be or what he wants to represent (hope and change), but didn't market him based on issues and his individual stances on various topics. They ran his campaign alot like you'd run a "Student Council" campaign. In High School the Student Council is more about who's popular based on personality, as opposed to who's popular based on stances on issues.

Guys would interview Barack, joke with him, laugh with him, kid with him, ask him the soft questions. Then the next week they'd interview Palin or McCain, and they'd ask them the tough questions and hold their feet to the fire, which is what they're SUPPOSED to do. Some would go overboard and actively seek to embarass them though. He wasn't "battle-tested". He was given a pass. Now you see why that was a mistake. He from the moment he got into office, he and his aides have been going after Fox.

One thing I liked about Bush, was that he was mentally strong. He didn't care what you said, or what you thought, he was going to do what HE thought was best for the country. Call it stubborness, call it whatever, but it was refreshing. Now, I did think that at times, on certain issues, he needed to go with the majority, and it frustrated me that he didn't. How many times did we hear Bush or his aides go after MSNBC or CNN?? They NEVER did. He and his aides did interviews with other networks all the time. Yet Obama and his aides boycott Fox, when they're not publically badmouthing them. This shows me how SOFT they are, and that spells disaster for us as a country, when our President's Administration should be mentally strong to be able to deal with the issues, yet are as soft as tissue paper...
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Sean Hannity, yes. Glenn Beck... he criticizes Republicans all the time! Bill O'Reilly is obviously more conservative than liberal, but even he goes out of his way to be fair to Obama and Democrats. Have you even SEEN O'Reilly's show or are you basing your opinions off of heresay???
Glenn Beck only criticizes Republicans on petty shit. His criticism of the right is not nearly as harsh as the left. Regardless, he is, for whatever absurd reason, one of the spokesmen conservatism.

And yeah, I've watched O'Reilly's show multiple times. He's not that fair.

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It is a sad day when a guy who thinks Obama is moderate will claim O'Reilly is far right. He is conservative and traditional, but no way he is far right.
I never said Obama was a moderate. And all you're arguing is semantics. The fact is he leans right on most any issue, just like the other 2 I listed, and that was my point.

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BTW, didn't the liberals claim that when they called for Bush to be sent to prison and they called him a lair and all the other hate-filled personal things they said they were just being patriotic? How amazing that attacking Obama's policies is hate, but attacking Bush personally is patriotic!
Bush took us into war in Iraq on the assumption that there were WMDs (pst...there weren't any).

Most people are calling Obama a racist socialistic (because that's when Glenn Beck told them he was) and that's why it's hate and not criticism.

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And yeah, I've watched O'Reilly's show multiple times. He's not that fair.
I'll bite. What's Bill O'Reilly unfair about? I expect you can find an O'Reilly rant / abuse of Obama or any other Democrat, since he is so unfair to them. Let's see it.

Yes I honestly do think Fox is the only "fair and balanced" news network. They go after BS politicians on both sides, regardless of party affiliation or agenda. No one gets a free pass on Fox. How many hardcore, grilling, mean-spirited stories about Obama or Pelosi or Reid can you find on MSNBC or ABC? Do you want me to find a few from them on Bush? LOL!!

Just because you do not support a conservative agenda, does not mean that Fox is hardcore right-wing. They're right of center, but fair in telling both sides of the story. America does not get that from any other news outlet. All you get is one-sided glowing reports about liberal agenda items, and it's bunk.

YOU consider ABC airing a 4-hr Obama healthcare propaganda infomercial during primetime, with zero dissent, to be fair and balanced? YOU have no problem with our President attacking the only media outlet that offers any voice of opposition to his (and Congress') power grab?
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I'll bite. What's Bill O'Reilly unfair about? I expect you can find an O'Reilly rant / abuse of Obama or any other Democrat, since he is so unfair to them. Let's see it.
I haven't watched in over a year because I was tired of the whole network. I don't care enough to go through episodes and pick shit out either.

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Yes I honestly do think Fox is the only "fair and balanced" news network. They go after BS politicians on both sides, regardless of party affiliation or agenda. No one gets a free pass on Fox.
Well, then you're delusional.

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How many hardcore, grilling, mean-spirited stories about Obama or Pelosi or Reid can you find on MSNBC or ABC? Do you want me to find a few from them on Bush? LOL!!
I don't know. I don't watch those either, but do you think it was undeserved?

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Just because you do not support a conservative agenda, does not mean that Fox is hardcore right-wing. They're right of center, but fair in telling both sides of the story. America does not get that from any other news outlet. All you get is one-sided glowing reports about liberal agenda items, and it's bunk.
I do support a conservative agenda, but I cannot tolerate Fox News slanting shit like they do.

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YOU consider ABC airing a 4-hr Obama healthcare propaganda infomercial during primetime, with zero dissent, to be fair and balanced? YOU have no problem with our President attacking the only media outlet that offers any voice of opposition to his (and Congress') power grab?
I didn't say ABC is fair or more fair so don't put words in my mouth.
I'm not comparing channels here because they're all slanted to one direction, but Fox takes it further than anyone else.

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Bush took us into war in Iraq on the assumption that there were WMDs (pst...there weren't any).
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Most people are calling Obama a racist socialistic (because that's when Glenn Beck told them he was) and that's why it's hate and not criticism.
You...uh....ever read or heard any excerpts from any of Obama's books?

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I haven't watched in over a year because I was tired of the whole network. I don't care enough to go through episodes and pick shit out either.

I don't know. I don't watch those either, but do you think it was undeserved?

I do support a conservative agenda, but I cannot tolerate Fox News slanting shit like they do.

I didn't say ABC is fair or more fair so don't put words in my mouth.
Nice. You're too lazy to defend your accusations and too apathetic to form an actual opinion. Maybe you should just butt out of the big-boy discussion going on here if you don't care one way or the other.
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I'm not comparing channels here because they're all slanted to one direction, but Fox takes it further than anyone else.
Here's a biased opinion with no evidence to back it up: "Well, then you're delusional."
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Bush took us into war in Iraq on the assumption that there were WMDs (pst...there weren't any).
Odd, the only way America can go to war is by congressional vote. Even more odd, is that most of your congressional democratic leaders were voting for America to go to war with Iraq 8 years before Bush took office. And yet, you blame Bush.

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Until the White House actually debunks what Beck is claiming, I'm going with Beck on the facts.

I laughed yesterday when I seen that he has a White House hotline set up in studio for them to call direct to the studio if they so choose to.

Beck might be a goofus but so far, all the left can do is try and discredit him personally. No one has engauged him on the facts. Actions speak louder than words in this case.
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Beck might be a goofus but so far, all the left can do is try and discredit him personally. No one has engauged him on the facts. Actions speak louder than words in this case.
Have fun listening to that uneducated, unqualified nutcase then.

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Have fun listening to that uneducated, unqualified nutcase then.
But is he wrong? Or do you even know what he's said about this administration?
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But is he wrong? Or do you even know what he's said about this administration?
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I don't care enough to go through episodes and pick shit out either.
He's just hatin'

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But is he wrong? Or do you even know what he's said about this administration?
I stopped listening when he called Obama a racist. Pretty much solidifies him a nutcase right there.

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I stopped listening when he called Obama a racist. Pretty much solidifies him a nutcase right there.
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I haven't watched in over a year because I was tired of the whole network. I don't care enough to go through episodes and pick shit out either.
uh huh.

Again...you really need to read Obama's books. Beck has and his accusations are more valid than yours are, therefore being far more qualified, educated and intelligent than you could ever speculate to be.

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uh huh.

Again...you really need to read Obama's books. Beck has and his accusations are more valid than yours are, therefore being far more qualified, educated and intelligent than you could ever speculate to be.
It was all over the news, and he said it on a different channel. But gg.

More educated than me? That's hilarious. He's a college drop out that started doing sports radio and doing drugs. He got big for some outrageous, controversial opinions and now everyone else without an education thinks a guy with ZERO government experience and ZERO military experience is some sort of political genius. The same goes for Limbaugh.

Anyone with a college degree and any kind of government or military experience is more educated and more qualified to spit political opinions than either of those two clowns.

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Ah...you've got him licked in a college education. Congratulations to you, sir. Your "education" is being illustrated perfectly with every negative post you make against Limbaugh and Beck.

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I never said Obama was a moderate. And all you're arguing is semantics. The fact is he leans right on most any issue, just like the other 2 I listed, and that was my point. .
Please clarify what category you put Obama in then. You sure did use categories to describe Fox, so it is only fair to do the same to the Messiah.

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Bush took us into war in Iraq on the assumption that there were WMDs (pst...there weren't any)..
Please say you know that every major country in the world, every leader of both parties, and most of the free world thought Saddam had WMD and Saddam made took great strides to convince everyone he DID have WMD's.

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Most people are calling Obama a racist socialistic (because that's when Glenn Beck told them he was) and that's why it's hate and not criticism.
So other than Beck, who are all of these "most people" you say are calling Obama a racist?

I call Obama a globalist socialist one world type thinker, but a racist? I sure hope he doesn't hate half of himself!

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I stopped listening when he called Obama a racist. Pretty much solidifies him a nutcase right there.
So you stopped listening when you heard something you disliked, right? Would it be fair if we stopped listening to you hard core liberals when you spewed your constant and vile hate at Bush for 8 long years?

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I stopped listening when he called Obama a racist. Pretty much solidifies him a nutcase right there.
Really? So you think anyone that questions the president as being racist is a nut case? What about people that called GW Bush a racist? Are they a nut case as well? What about those that called Bush Hitler or a Nazi? Or those who said he was the devil or the antichrist? Were they nut cases as well?

Keep your head planted firmly up your ass and let the rest of us try and keep this country from going further into the shitter.
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WHEN did he call Obama a racist?????
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Really? So you think anyone that questions the president as being racist is a nut case? What about people that called GW Bush a racist? Are they a nut case as well? What about those that called Bush Hitler or a Nazi? Or those who said he was the devil or the antichrist? Were they nut cases as well?

Keep your head planted firmly up your ass and let the rest of us try and keep this country from going further into the shitter.
How about CNN, MSNBC, and a big chunk of the Liberal community who claim that ANYONE who doesn't agree with Obama or approve of what he's doing as President to be racist.
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Newest thing is the Pentagon is now racist because they are calling Obama out for being a pussy and not sending the amount of troops needed in Afganistan.
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and one with rachael maddow, and keith olbermann arent far left?

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Ah...you've got him licked in a college education. Congratulations to you, sir. Your "education" is being illustrated perfectly with every negative post you make against Limbaugh and Beck.
You don't get it. His popularity isn't based on him being a journalist, his popularity is because he says what the average person thinks. He's a commentator as opposed to a journalist. He doesn't mascarade as a journalist like some people on all 3 networks do. THAT is why he's popular.
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You don't get it. His popularity isn't based on him being a journalist, his popularity is because he says what the average person thinks. He's a commentator as opposed to a journalist. He doesn't mascarade as a journalist like some people on all 3 networks do. THAT is why he's popular.
Alot of people get the impression that Fox is all news when in fact it is just like CNN and MSNBC and they have opinion shows also. O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity and most of the other prime time shows are opinion shows, nothing more. It just so happens that the opinion shows on Fox are by far the highest rated shows on cable TV. I guess their opinion is valued more than the liberals and far left are to most Americans who watch cable.

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Alot of people get the impression that Fox is all news when in fact it is just like CNN and MSNBC and they have opinion shows also. O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity and most of the other prime time shows are opinion shows, nothing more. It just so happens that the opinion shows on Fox are by far the highest rated shows on cable TV. I guess their opinion is valued more than the liberals and far left are to most Americans who watch cable.
Primetime, yes, but outside of Beck, O'Reilly (who's for the most part), and Hannity, the Network is unbiased interms of news, but not opinions.
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WHEN did he call Obama a racist?????
I think he said it on The View or something. I don't remember. Google it.

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Really? So you think anyone that questions the president as being racist is a nut case? What about people that called GW Bush a racist? Are they a nut case as well? What about those that called Bush Hitler or a Nazi? Or those who said he was the devil or the antichrist? Were they nut cases as well?
I'm sure I may have missed it but I don't recall anyone with their own political opinion TV show saying anything like that, no.

Beck is a spokesman for the conservative movement, and remarks like he made are not good for any movement.

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Primetime, yes, but outside of Beck, O'Reilly (who's for the most part), and Hannity, the Network is unbiased interms of news, but not opinions.
I'll agree with that to an extent. I do like to watch Shepard Smith occasionally.

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and one with rachael maddow, and keith olbermann arent far left?
We already went over this. I never said they weren't.

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