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And some of you idiots trust the government with healthcare?

I switched over to the Post 9/11 Gi bill which has a lot of nifty bells and whistles, like tuition, living stipend and books covered. They told me "You'll have a check by 1 Sept." Yep, no check. Then they say "By the 15th at the latest." Still no check. When I called they told me...and I'm not shitting you "Check facebook."

Now, with over 277,000 people applying, they are saying "We'll give out 25k checks to vets, but you have to drive to your regional offices." Here's their facebook page.

Thousands of Checks to Alleviate Student Financial Burden – Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki announced the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has authorized checks for up to $3,000 to be given to students who have applied for educational benefits and who have not yet received their government payment. The checks will be distributed to eligible students at VA regional benefits offices across the country starting Oct. 2, 2009.

“Students should be focusing on their studies, not worrying about financial difficulties,” Secretary Shinseki said. “Education creates life-expanding opportunities for our Veterans.”

Starting Friday, Oct. 2, 2009, students can go to one of VA’s 57 regional benefit offices with a photo ID and a course schedule to request advance payment of their education benefits. Because not all these offices are located near students, VA expects to send representatives to schools with large Veteran-student bodies and work with Veteran Service Organizations to help students with transportation needs.

A list of those VA regional offices is available at www.vba.va.gov/VBA/benefits/offices.asp.

“I’m asking our people to get out their road maps and determine how we can reach the largest number of college students who can’t reach us,” VA’s Under Secretary for Benefits Patrick Dunne said. “Not everyone has a car. Not everyone can walk to a VA benefits office.”

Although VA does not know how many students will request emergency funds, it has approximately 25,000 claims pending that may result in payments to students. The funds VA will give to students now are advance payments of the earned benefits for education benefits. This money will be deducted from future education payments.
VA officials said students should know that after this special payment, they can expect to receive education payments on the normal schedule -- the beginning of the month following the period for which they are reimbursed.

“This is an extraordinary action we’re taking,” said Shinseki. “But it’s necessary because we recognize the hardships some of our Veterans face.”

More than 27,500 students have already received benefits for housing or books under the new Post-9/11 GI Bill, or their schools received their tuition payments.

Stay tuned to gibill.va.gov and our Facebook page for more info. Make sure to tell your friends and help us spread the word.
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schools already started too , right ?
so youre basically fucked.

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Yep. I've been living on my credit card for the last couple months, the school wants paid, today is my "drop for nonpayment day" and I had to shell out almost 700 bucks on books and supplies. There are people living in their cars and eating ramen who were doing okay with the Gi bill and when they switched over, everything stopped.

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This is very similar to how the fed handled the cash for clunkers deal; a lot of dealers waited a hell of a long time to get their cash while the CFC website crashed over and over. And that's with a TINY program as compared to healthcare.
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Yet they KNOW how to handle our healthcare. Bullshit. They can't handle the VA healthcare
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socialism at it's best......
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I remember when some random guy asked me if i was ready for government healthcare
I said , "sure I'm ready to be standing in line waiting .....bleeding to death!"
although he apparently was a supporter , he understood what I meant!

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Come on people, it takes time to print billions of dollars. They have to let the ink dry before they can hand it out. I can't wait for the $1,000 bills to start rolling out.

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http://www.statenews.com/index.php/a...l_embarrassing

G.I. Bill delays disgraceful, embarrassing
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After enticing hundreds of thousands of veterans with new benefits, the new GI Bill is experiencing major problems. The Department of Veteran Affairs, which runs the GI benefits program, has delayed thousands of benefit checks, which is having a monumental effect on the livelihood of student-veterans nationwide.

The GI Bill allows veterans who have served in the American armed forces after Sept. 10, 2001, to attend college, with the government picking up the tab for tuition, books and housing.

More than 277,000 veterans applied for assistance through the bill, but as a result of antiquated technology and the sheer abundance of applicants, the government only has issued benefit checks to about 33,000 veterans. This simply is unacceptable.

Because of the government’s backup, many veterans have had to pay for their education out of their own pockets, despite having every reason to believe it would be financed by the government. Several veterans quit secure jobs and even relocated their families after finding out about the bill, only to have to dig deep into their savings just to get by. Had they known the government wouldn’t be paying for their first several months of tuition and housing, many veterans likely wouldn’t have enrolled. This is a shame, but it’s especially shameful the government misled its veterans in this way.

The department has stated it never intended to pay the benefit checks until about October or November, despite several veterans never being informed of this. This sounds like a hollow excuse. Why does the government think it wise to issue checks months after classes begin at most American colleges and universities? Is it not reasonable to expect the government to start paying for your education by the time you start paying rent and tuition?

Thankfully, many colleges and universities are deferring tuition bills for those veterans who have not yet received their checks from the government. We applaud those institutions that have deferred payment to those veterans still in waiting and hope they can continue to do so until the government gets its ducks in a row.

It’s good to know our nation’s educational institutions can show some compassion when our nation’s government drops the ball.

We do realize that, realistically, backups and delays are to be expected in a process of this size and importance. The government has cited an out-of-date computer system as a significant reason why it is unable to calculate veteran benefits and respond to them quickly. It’s the government’s responsibility to fix this and update its software as soon as possible. Thousands of veterans are depending on these benefits, and the government needs to do everything it can to fix the problem, even if it means working around the clock.

Our nation’s veterans deserve the highest respect. They have put their lives on the line for our nation, while our government isn’t even able to cut them a check to help pay for school right away. Those who should be first in line for benefits are being ignored and abandoned in the red tape of government bureaucracy. There simply is no excuse for failing to support our nation’s veterans, both morally and, in this case, financially. The behavior of our nation’s government in this instance is nothing short of an embarrassment.

After all, if this is how our government treats our nation’s finest, what does that say about how they treat everyone else?
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Seems us bitching is getting some results because of the news coverage.

Vans to Help Veteran-Students

WASHINGTON – Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki today announced further outreach to Veteran-students eligible for a special emergency payment of their education benefits. Veterans can now apply online beginning Oct. 2. Veteran-students can also request courtesy transportation to VA regional benefits offices.

“Our Veterans went the extra mile for their country,” Shinseki said. “One of our top priorities in transforming VA is to be, first and foremost, the advocate for Veterans.”

Last week Shinseki announced that on Friday, Oct. 2, VA’s 57 regional benefits offices will begin providing on-the-spot emergency payments up to $3,000 to students who have applied for their education benefits but who have not yet received a government payment.

Citing the distance many Veterans would have to travel to apply in person at a VA benefits office, Shinseki announced Veterans can also apply online at www.va.gov, starting Oct. 2. The online application will guide Veterans through the process to supply needed information. Shinseki noted that online applicants will receive their emergency payments through the mail after processing.

“VA is adapting to meet the financial needs of our Veteran-students who are on campus,” Shinseki said. “They should be focusing on their studies, not worrying about financial difficulties.”

Students without their own transportation can also request free van service, provided by volunteers, to carry them to the nearest benefits office. To obtain this service, Veterans would have to call their nearest VA medical center and ask for the “Volunteer Transportation Coordinator.” Transportation will be on a first-come, first-served, space-available basis. Veterans can find a map and list of medical centers at http://www2.va.gov/directory/guide/d...lsh.asp?dnum=1.

Whether traveling by personal vehicle or volunteer van, VA officials suggest students check their mail boxes and banking accounts before leaving home, since some Veterans will find their checks have already arrived. VA would like to recognize the volunteers and Veterans Service Organizations for partnering with the Department to ensure that Veterans’ needs are met.

The emergency checks are an advance on each student’s education benefits, and the amount will be deducted from future benefits payments. Checks will be written at the regional offices for Veterans who bring a photo ID and evidence of their enrollment. VA officials emphasize that $3,000 is the maximum payment, with many Veterans receiving smaller payments based upon their likely monthly education benefits.

A map and list of the participating VA regional benefits offices is available on the Internet at http://www2.va.gov/directory/guide/d...lsh.asp?dnum=3. The most updated information regarding VA issuing emergency checks will be available at VA’s web site www.va.gov starting Oct. 1.

Applications from approximately 25,000 Veterans are currently being processed for Post-9/11 GI Bill education benefit payments to students or schools.
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