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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-21-2009, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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This is what happens when you don't know what the F your're talking about....

Hey Barry, Why don't you try READING the latest iteration of your socialist created Bullshit before you start going off?

Oh that's right.... NOBODY reads this crap....

God this dude pisses me off....


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Millions upon millions will ignore these issues and still vote for him next election. This will go ignored just like his birth certificate, his Acorn ties, Rev Wright ties, Bill Ayers ties, his lack of experience, the bowing down to the saudi king, saying his bowling is like the Special Olympics on TV, Joe Biden's plethora of ill-conceived comments, the wasted billions of $$$ in "stimulus" spending, all of his horrible cabinet and czar appointments, etc etc.
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Millions upon millions will ignore these issues and still vote for him next election. This will go ignored just like his birth certificate, his Acorn ties, Rev Wright ties, Bill Ayers ties, his lack of experience, the bowing down to the saudi king, saying his bowling is like the Special Olympics on TV, Joe Biden's plethora of ill-conceived comments, the wasted billions of $$$ in "stimulus" spending, all of his horrible cabinet and czar appointments, etc etc.
But the horrible economy won't go away

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But the horrible economy won't go away
It won't matter so much when Uncle Barry is supporting them.

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Millions upon millions will ignore these issues and still vote for him next election. This will go ignored just like his birth certificate, his Acorn ties, Rev Wright ties, Bill Ayers ties, his lack of experience, the bowing down to the saudi king, saying his bowling is like the Special Olympics on TV, Joe Biden's plethora of ill-conceived comments, the wasted billions of $$$ in "stimulus" spending, all of his horrible cabinet and czar appointments, etc etc.
jackpot of truth, give this man a million dollars- you win.
You are exactly right, the american public is incredibly copasetic
people really believe what they see on TV. The have zero inclination to try and learn or understand history or anything for that matter THEMSELVES.

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Millions upon millions will ignore these issues and still vote for him next election. This will go ignored just like his birth certificate, his Acorn ties, Rev Wright ties, Bill Ayers ties, his lack of experience, the bowing down to the saudi king, saying his bowling is like the Special Olympics on TV, Joe Biden's plethora of ill-conceived comments, the wasted billions of $$$ in "stimulus" spending, all of his horrible cabinet and czar appointments, etc etc.
Geez! Enough with this guilt by association rhetoric. So what if just about everything he is associated with seems to be corrupt. You're just being racist.
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But the horrible economy won't go away
It will eventually and then the media will hand the glory to bama.
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Hey Barry, Why don't you try READING the latest iteration of your socialist created Bullshit before you start going off?

Oh that's right.... NOBODY reads this crap....

God this dude pisses me off....


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I don't see what the fuss is about. The President is not lying. It's not the word "tax" that is at issue, it's the phrase "tax increase". If you don't try to the control the word usage then today's media will quickly take it out of context and spin in into something entire different. Political speech is never strait forward. Expecting it to be is pretty immature.


A proposed requirement that all Americans buy health insurance does in fact include a "tax" increase
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I don't see what the fuss is about. The President is not lying. It's not the word "tax" that is at issue, it's the phrase "tax increase". If you don't try to the control the word usage then today's media will quickly take it out of context and spin in into something entire different. Political speech is never strait forward. Expecting it to be is pretty immature.


A proposed requirement that all Americans buy health insurance does in fact include a "tax" increase
--- case in point
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The health bill drafted by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D., Mont.) would fine families up to $3,800 annually if they don't buy health insurance. In an interview with ABC's "This Week" that aired Sunday, President Barack Obama said he rejected the notion that the fee represents a tax increase. "You can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase," Mr. Obama told host George Stephanopoulos.

In describing the penalty, Sen. Baucus's proposal says: "The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax."
obama has not read the bill, or doesn't understand it. THAT's the issue, along with a shitload of broken campaign promises (ie: "no new taxes on people making less than [insert shrinking number]").

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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-22-2009, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
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Exactly Mike...

Look, If you are gonna go across the national airwaves peddling this crap, the absolute LEAST I would expect, as a grown adult, is that you know the subject matter you are speaking of.... this goes for all elected reps (Dem and Rep), as well as our President. If you don't have your shit straight, or even not care if you do, don't expect me or anyone else to take you seriously...

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Political speech is never strait forward. Expecting it to be is pretty immature.
Why is it immature to expect someone to not only KNOW what is in a bill, but to be honest about what IS in the bill? I would think the MATURE thing would be to be honest to the American public. "OK folks, if this is what you want... its going to cost a lot of money... some or most of you will wind up paying more in the long run. Let's debate and see where it leads."

I may not agree with what's in the bill, but at least I can respect him for being straight up, and at least I can feel like we can meet in a "middle" somewhere...

Statements like "We will pay for it by cleaning up the "waste" in our current system", is not an answer, its doublespeak... and its bullshit....

I know, to expect politicians or lawyers to be honest is a pipe dream, they've been that way since there was a thing called Government....but wouldn't it be nice, just for once, know that one of these guys (Dem and Rep) are being straight with you?

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A politician being honest with us would most definitely provide a welcome respite from 'business as usual', as we know it, in the wonderful world of politics...
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Geez! Enough with this guilt by association rhetoric. So what if just about everything he is associated with seems to be corrupt. You're just being racist.
It would be one thing if there was only ONE of these extremists in his past, but to be surrounded by MANY and to select MANY for the czar positions? Where do we draw the line?

And I am sick and fucking tired of being called a racist just because I don't agree with that piece of shit.







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It would be one thing if there was only ONE of these extremists in his past, but to be surrounded by MANY and to select MANY for the czar positions? Where do we draw the line?

And I am sick and fucking tired of being called a racist just because I don't agree with that piece of shit.







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Judging on previous posts from him I will say 110% sarcasm. I agree with the racist BS. In fact I started a thread on it a few days ago here.



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Judging on previous posts from him I will say 110% sarcasm. I agree with the racist BS. In fact I started a thread on it a few days ago here.

Agreed. Just the other day I set my jaw, hit quote, starting banging furiously away on the keyboard....


Then stopped to think about it for a second.


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I don't see what the fuss is about. The President is not lying. It's not the word "tax" that is at issue, it's the phrase "tax increase". If you don't try to the control the word usage then today's media will quickly take it out of context and spin in into something entire different. Political speech is never strait forward. Expecting it to be is pretty immature.
Let's play word games to try and make it look like a new excise tax is not a "tax increase".

It is fucking sad that you are serious.
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