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Sums up our entire situation.

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Gun control mainly about the the control

By Dave Shadow

What don’t you understand about gun control?

When thinking about this subject, two words come to mind that relate to our condition or position on the subject of gun control.

Some of us fall into one category, and others may slip into the other.

Unfortunately, most of what we think of and how we behave as the average American certainly falls into one of these categories.
I believe that we are very fortunate to live in the best of times, in the best country and finest society that has ever existed since time began. But I also believe that it’s slipping away while we sit idly by and watch it happen. I am not a doomsday prophet or anything like that, but I’d like to think that I see our personal freedoms and constitutional rights situation either more clearly or with more interest than the vast majority of our voting neighbors. Actually, that’s not exactly right; I don’t want to see the situation more clearly. I want to share some thoughts that may make you look at our positions in a different light.

First of all, get the ideas out of your mind that our elected politicians have everything under control and all have of our best interests at heart. Secondly, bear in mind that they work for us; we are not subject to their personal agendas and wishes based on lobbying efforts. We can make differences if we will pay attention, be vocal and vote accordingly.

If we as average, normal, working class citizens will think and talk about subjects that our forefathers felt so imperative to our rights and the eventual survival of our society, we can make a difference. The liberal activists on these subjects are vocal and very active. We must be also!

The two words mentioned above are “apathetic” and “pathetic.”

Most of us have become apathetic over time. The thesaurus defines this word as being “indifferent, lethargic, listless and unconcerned.” We simply let others take charge of the decisions in the everyday workings of our worlds and we rest assured that our legislators will all make those decisions that are good for us. Isn’t that about where we are? We get excited and even upset over bad calls in sporting activities such as ball games, but we let our politicians erode our personal freedoms without even a groan. It’s time to get excited about those things that affect our Second Amendment rights and other personal freedoms before it’s too late!

Just in case you’ve forgotten your grade school class that discussed the Constitution, the Second Amendment was designed to give us the right to bear arms. It says: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” This and the Christian principals that were the basic foundations of our country are being misinterpreted and undermined by groups and individuals with undesirable intentions while we sit back and say nothing.

Radical individuals and groups seeking to destabilize the very and basic principals that our great country was based upon make a lot of very elegant noise while we sit back quietly and think that all of this stuff really means nothing to us. Unfortunately, many of these campaigners of “control” speak very eloquently, very loudly, and relentlessly. Couple that with the recruitment of many celebrities and Hollywood stars and you get a very believable group of control advocates, many of who do not see the whole picture or realize the eventual effect that the demonizing of our freedoms will have.

In summary, all of this proposed additional legislation is not about gun control. It’s not about guns for hunting or personal protection. It’s not about ammunition. It’s not about reducing violent crime. It’s not about protecting children. It’s not about animal rights. It’s not about hunting. It is about control! It makes all of us more dependent on government and less self-sufficient. It diminishes our personal freedoms and reduces us to subjects who are controlled by and indebted to our government rather than citizens who control our governments actions through the constitutional processes of free elections, freedom of speech, etc.

The second word was “pathetic,” meaning wretched and miserable. All of those who continually undermine our personal freedoms with items such firearm legislation fit this description. Many of these individuals and groups have agendas designed for their own purposes, not the overall good of individuals and our country. It is only through individual freedoms and rights that our country can gain back and strengthen the country as a whole. If individuals are stronger, then the country is inherently stronger.

Regain a voice in your local community and among your friends and relatives.

The route to proper success in maintaining your personal freedoms is through the actual use of the freedom of speech not just the existence of the same.

Watch how your politicians vote on important issues and make educated judgments rather than believing in their televised rhetoric. In short; Judge the tree by the fruit it bears!

Parting thought:

“Honor, justice and humanity forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.”

— Thomas Jefferson, “Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms,” 6 July 1775

It’s faith, family and freedom.

Dave Shadow is the Journal Gazette/Times-Courier’s hunting and fishing columnist.
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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 09-19-2009, 05:06 PM
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While I think the guy's heart is in the right spot. I think the time for voting is gone. People are apathetic because they vote and see that is doesn't do anything. They call their reps and still they push forward. It's hard to play politics over the course of years for regular people. That is better left to the weasels. If they were abiding by the constitution they would have very little power anyways. That was the idea. The time to push back is present. Just a matter of time now before this liberal agenda backfires. I will not be surprised one bit when cities start to burn. People need to start confronting these POS on the street. They need a little fear in them. There are no repercussions for their actions. People think they are worried about getting reelected..... Don't they make something like $15,000 a month for the rest of their lives after serving one term? They are not worried about anything. Their bipartisan compromises are way more damaging than doing nothing at all.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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76 reasons to own a gun.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/gillespie1.1.1.html





1. The simple act of having a gun is its own best use. Like a battleship parked off the coast its mere presence changes the dynamic of the situation without having to fire a single shot. By having a gun you become too dangerous to your predators. Criminals interviewed in jail say they don’t want anything to do with an armed civilian. That change in my human predators is exactly what I want to accomplish.
2. A right exercised is a right retained.
3. It's the best single tool for protecting your life and the lives of your loved ones. (JFPO)
4. You detest American gun laws based on 1938 Nazi weapons laws. (JFPO)
5. Armed societies are polite societies. (Switzerland).
6. Switzerland is armed to the teeth with virtually no crime (Stephen Holbrook).
7. Because of the patience and discipline you acquire while learning about the tool.
8. So you can de-bunk Hollywood gun myths for your kids.
9. So you’ll know that not using toy guns when playing is an important step in teaching kids to respect and handle the real thing safely and appropriately.
10. It removes force from the equation of human interaction.
11. Home Invasion Robberies. And your gun tool should be easy to get to (Since it will be in the holster you’re wearing).
12.
"Robbery and assault victims who used a gun to resist were less likely to be attacked or to suffer an injury than those who used any other method of self-protection or those who did not resist at all." according to Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Florida State University, Gary Kleck, in Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America.
13. We call the police because they have guns, not pens to document what already happened to us.
14. Cougars in the backyard – Happens all the time where we live.
15. Coyotes on the streets – My wife has seen five, this year. Only a danger if they’re in packs or for small children and dogs, alone.
16. Rattlesnakes in the hills – Signs all over the trails around here. Put snake shot in the first two chambers of your trail gun.
17. Police Budget Cuts – Sacramento County in CA will reduce the number of squad cars from 39 to 8 due to budget cuts (Channel 3, Sacramento, air date 6/30/2009).
18. Early Release of Violent criminals from overstuffed jails – Happens more than you think. Check your local news. There’s no more room left at the Inn.
19. Economic Meltdown. Was Argentina more or less safe when their currency collapsed? And don’t forget the other 30 countries whose currency has collapsed in the last 100 years. Happens all the time to those other countries we tend to ignore. It could never happen in the US, right?
20. Hurricane Katrina and the next natural disaster.
21. Better than a knife past 2 yards.
22. The only sure victim-prevention lies with the victim-to-be.
23. Police only document crimes after they happen. They might investigate. But, they have no legal responsibility to prevent crime.
24. Saying, "Police are not your bodyguard," is quite an understatement.
25. According to the Dalai Lama, "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001).
26. When seconds count, the police arrive in minutes (Or hours).
27. How many police does it take to give one speeding ticket to a dangerous soccer mom? Five! No punch line, here. It’s just how many I saw it take, last week. That’s five police not available for a real crime happening somewhere else.
28. The L. A. riots – For which the shotgun I had in the back seat on the way home from work was the right tool. We counted 22 plumes of smoke on each side of the freeway on the way home, that day. And the US troops on the streets for the next 3 days must have thought the M-16’s they were carrying were the right tool for the job, too. Now why would myself and those troops think it was useful to have a gun if neither of us actually fired? Because having a gun is its own best use. Guns are in full use even when they’re not being fired.
29. NYC Blackouts. I predict more blackouts as more cities and counties go bankrupt and don’t have the money to maintain their electricity grids.
30. The official role of police is to investigate, not prevent crime.
31. Self-defense is an inherent human right. It is given to you by God, not the government.
32. Since Criminals will always have guns, there’s no reasonable expectation of self-defense if law-abiding citizens don’t have them, too.
33. Meat on the table – Or do you only eat meat that other people kill for you?
34. 1 in 4 chance of being on the receiving end of a violent crime (and that was before the economic meltdown).
35. Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Sonia Sotomayor. If you were impressed with Clinton’s torture of the word "IS" wait ’til you see what this bunch will do to the 27 words of the 2nd amendment. By the time they’re done they’ll have us believing the amendment has something to do with toaster ovens. Don’t laugh: I should have made each one of these people their own separate reason.
36. If history is any guide we should now expect increased "gun-control" (Victim Disarmament) laws passed under the guise of "protecting us." With the Government takeover of all banks, GM and Chrysler the US has now crossed over into the dictionary definition of fascism. Possession of firearms by private citizens threatens fascist governments that have always sought coercion and control.
37. Gun control laws increase violent crime as only law abiding citizens abide by the law. That makes "Gun Control" into effective "Victim Disarmament."
38. Last line of defense for family while traveling.
39. Clean-cut young men like Ted Bundy.
40. As a hobby to improve self-discipline and the understanding of physics.
41. To bring your physical preparation for resisting non-initiated force in line with your spiritual and intellectual efforts to avoid it.
42. The Virginia Tech Massacre – Cho killed 32 people and wounded another 17. Gun-Control (Read Victim Disarmament) has turned our schools into killing zones. Don’t those darn psychos know that guns are not allowed on campus? Actually, people like Cho do know and that’s why they choose school campuses for their shooting rampages.
43. School officials called the police when they heard Cho gunning people down at Virginia Tech. They called the police because they had guns that could stop Cho. Were guns the problem or the solution that day? The answer is that Cho was the problem and guns were the solution. If law abiding students were allowed to carry then their guns would have been the solution delivered long before so many innocent students were killed waiting for the police to arrive and "cordon off the area."
44.
Camping among dangerous 4-legged creatures.
45. Camping among dangerous 2-legged creatures.
46. To equalize physical strengths in a confrontation.
47. Carrying a gun is a lighter burden than regret.
48. The Zodiac Killer. They never caught him. He claims 37 victims and is probably between 60 to 70 years old now, if alive. There’s an active website where you can submit tips.
49. If violent crime is not a factor then why do we still need police? (Boston T. Party)
50. You’re several more times likely, in your lifetime, to need a handgun to deal with a lethal threat than you are to need fire insurance on your home . . . yet more people carry fire insurance than carry a gun. (Boston T. Party)
51. Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 per day. You don’t hear about them because they never happened, silly.
52. Violent offenders shy away from houses and people who are likely to be armed.
53. Your security is not your neighbors' responsibility.
54. Your security is not legally the police’s responsibility.
55. To increase criminal expectations that you may have a gun.
56. To bear your share of the responsibility and burden of the proven gun deterrence of crime.
57. Because criminals fear entering your House because of my gun. Get your own and spread the non-violence.
58. Because there are evil people in the world that can’t be talked or reeducated out of trying to kill you.
59. To convert force into persuasion.
60. To remove fear from human interaction.
61. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. (Marko Kloos).
62. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. (Marko Kloos)
63. To promote equality.
64. Every living creature has the natural right of self-defense.
65. There are people in this world to whom you’re not a human being. You are merely an obstacle to obtaining your possessions.
66. After you hand over the money, they’ll still kill you for being a witness.
67. YouTube videos of people being killed after they give up the money or open the safe.
68. As a communication device for someone who’d kill you to get the latest playstation or XBox or iphone.
69. Because every citizen in Switzerland has an automatic weapon in their basement and they have almost zero violent crime.
70. To appeal to the better nature of a man who doesn’t have one.
71. So that you can protect yourself against criminals who use guns as a deadly extension of their inability to deal with people.
72. Because there are people out there who would use a gun against you just to avoid the "hassles" of persuasion or the "inconvenience" of fair trade.
73.
"According to the FBI, states with 'shall-issue' right-to-carry laws have a 26 percent lower total violent crime rate, a 20 percent lower homicide rate, a 39 percent lower robbery rate and a 22 percent lower aggravated assault rate than those states that do not allow their citizens to legally carry guns."
74. "The Bureau of Justice’s national average states that I have a 1-in-4 chance of being a victim of violent crime in my lifetime. The risk conferred by living in a major population center . . . . – where index felonies (rape, robbery, homicide, aggravated assault, etc.) number 200 a day – increases my chances of being a predator’s lunch stack to 1-in-9 annually." Mark F. Twight, "Eat or Be Eaten" S.W.A.T., March 2000 (p. 60)
75. Genocide frequently follows government disarmament of private citizens. The JFPO calls this type of government disarmament Death by Gun Control.
76. "Liberty or death," the meaning of which is clear and absolute, is but a trivial phrase if you do not carry a gun (Living with Glocks by Robert H. Boatman).



All men should know Honor first, above all else!

Honor is not holding your hand out for something you did not earn.
Honor is not forcing your ideas, or belief on others.
Honor is not something given to you by way of job, or title.

Honor is learned, earned, practiced and respected by all decent men and women.
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