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What source of news should I be watching?

Ok, being new the the politics game, I'd like to know who I should be watching for news?

Like most of the general population living their life in a haze, I've just been watching any channel that was easy blowing off some news stories that seem to be just for ratings. After reading alot of the comments here on DFWstangs, I've realized what I never noticed before, how slanted some networks are. Some stations are WAY obvious if they are pro/con Obama.

After a suggestion from a friend here on DFW, I watched Glenn Beck for the first time. Is this guy nuts or is he for real? Whatever he is, he's....intense and obviously very slanted.

So what would you guys suggest for a politics newbie? Is there any unbiased, unpartial news outlets out there that will inform me rather than try to sway me? Who should I be watching? Should I be watching all of it?


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Drudge Report is what I always check first.

I really Don't watch the news. I just go to all the websites. CNN, NBC, Fox, yahoo, etc.

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There is no such thing as an unbiased news source. Just depends on who you agree with more. Liberals, or conservatives.

NBC, CNBC, ABC, Chicken Noodle Network, and the rest are HEAVILY liberal. Fox is about the only conservative news source.



FWIW, I don't watch Beck, or any of those others but every once in a while. I think all of them are a bit extreme.
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Watch one of them or watch them all. The important thing is to think about how they can slant the story to their ends. And no matter what, form your own opinion. Also, read the foreign news sites, you would be suprised about all the things we never hear about.
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Drudge Report is what I always check first.

I really Don't watch the news. I just go to all the websites. CNN, NBC, Fox, yahoo, etc.
same here. TV is to staged anymore......I like the online stuff with Drudge being my first to check...

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There is no such thing as an unbiased news source. Just depends on who you agree with more. Liberals, or conservatives.

NBC, CNBC, ABC, Chicken Noodle Network, and the rest are HEAVILY liberal. Fox is about the only conservative news source.



FWIW, I don't watch Beck, or any of those others but every once in a while. I think all of them are a bit extreme.
That's just it. I'm not sure who I agree with, I don't have enough information to make a decision quite yet. But I can tell you the little bit I do know so far, I'm not a fan of Obama so far. I really don't like that mandatory "volunteer workforce" thing he is trying to force on our kids. I've only begun to scratch the surface on the healthcare and stimulus things. THere is SO much information, it's overwhelming.

Another thing that gets me, is how in the fuck does this President have so much time on his hands to be stirring shit up like he does when he has a fucking WAR to be running?! Shouldn't that be his first and foremost issue right now?

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Watch one of them or watch them all. The important thing is to think about how they can slant the story to their ends. And no matter what, form your own opinion. Also, read the foreign news sites, you would be suprised about all the things we never hear about.
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Another thing that gets me, is how in the fuck does this President have so much time on his hands to be stirring shit up like he does when he has a fucking WAR to be running?! Shouldn't that be his first and foremost issue right now?


Obama has made no mistake about it. He wants nothing to do with this war. He doesn't know how to run it.


He's only pushing HIS agenda. He quickly figured out once he got in to office, that he couldn't end the war immediately like he promised during his campaign. Doing so will only cause more casualties, and bigger problems down the road. It's almost as if he's throwing a hissy fit in protest. He doesn't understand it, was shot down, and now he's just going to ignore it all together.


Your best bet is just to read the news sites online. You still get the tone, but it's not as bad as radicals on the networks shoving it down your throats. And Al's right, as well. Make sure and read the foreign news sources as well. The media controls what we hear about, and what we don't. The foreign sources have no vested interest either way, so they have no qualms about putting it ALL out there. The domestic media will only tell you about the things that further the liberal agenda.
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Obama has made no mistake about it. He wants nothing to do with this war. He doesn't know how to run it.


He's only pushing HIS agenda. He quickly figured out once he got in to office, that he couldn't end the war immediately like he promised during his campaign. Doing so will only cause more casualties, and bigger problems down the road. It's almost as if he's throwing a hissy fit in protest. He doesn't understand it, was shot down, and now he's just going to ignore it all together.


Your best bet is just to read the news sites online. You still get the tone, but it's not as bad as radicals on the networks shoving it down your throats. And Al's right, as well. Make sure and read the foreign news sources as well. The media controls what we hear about, and what we don't. The foreign sources have no vested interest either way, so they have no qualms about putting it ALL out there. The domestic media will only tell you about the things that further the liberal agenda.
You're definetly right he doesn't know what he's doing with the war. During his campaign he made a stop at MTV to talk to the youth. One of the questions was about how long the soldiers would be there and what are their chances of being extended. He stated that it wasnt fair to extend tours, telling troops they would be there 12 months and then tell them they had to be be there 14 or 15 months and that he would NOT do that. Then, two days ago he did that very thing extending troops tours. That fucker only told people what they wanted to hear to get into office. Maybe he should assign a 35th Czar to run the war for him. <--rhetorcal.

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He's only pushing HIS agenda. He quickly figured out once he got in to office, that he couldn't end the war immediately like he promised during his campaign. Doing so will only cause more casualties, and bigger problems down the road. It's almost as if he's throwing a hissy fit in protest. He doesn't understand it, was shot down, and now he's just going to ignore it all together.

Not to disagree, but I do have an issue with this statement. The POTUS is the commander and chief of the armed forces. He can order them all home any time he wishes.

But if your trying to point out there are greater forces compelling him to follow the previous administrations plan. This, I would assume to be true. And this would also validate my feeling of the POTUS......All of them since 1913 are just puppets.


Edit: To the original question. I don't think it matters any more. If you see something that is interesting to you, research it your self. Include searches to relating laws, or actual evidence.



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Frankly, you shouldn't "WATCH" any news if you want to be informed.

I usually start my news gathering at Ed Wallace's Inside Automotive. It posts links to news from all over, just like Drudge does. However, IMHO Ed gives a bit more balance to it than Matt Drudge does and I feel that he does a better job picking articles. I still use Drudge report but InsideAutomotive.com is my primary.

Another thing I like about that site is that Wallace has links to newspapers from all over the world. You can get to newspapers for Saudi Arabia, Japan, The United Kingdom, etc, etc, etc... I like reading other viewpoints on different matters. It is always eye opening to see how different other countries report the same stories.

Oh, and almost any newspaper is going to give you more information than TV news. TV new is almost strictly entertainment with some news thrown in. Frankly, it is mostly a waste of my time.

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I watch all of them. I watch Olberman, Matthews, and Maddow (MSNBC) to see what the crazy left is up to. I watch O'Reilly (Fox) to see what a traditional conservative has to say, and I listen to Mark Davis to hear what a local conservative has to say. I watch Hannity (Fox) to see what a hard core conservative has to say.

I make my own decisions and can see both sides, but want to keep up to date with what each side and the middle is saying. I would tell you to watch the shows for a few weeks before deciding. I remember hearing Rush when he made fun of some liberal crazies who were upset by some homeless people getting arrested for stealing shopping carts. The crazies had a fund raiser, bought some shopping carts, and gave them to the homeless so they wouldn't get arrested. He pointed out how stupid this was and how it mainly was a feelgood event for some soccer mom types. I then listened to him a few more times and didn't like what I heard.

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Get yourself a good variety of shows and websites to watch. Make your own decisions based on what you see and hear. As said, there is no such thing as an unbiased news outlet.
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It would really be too easy if someone just reported the truth?

Our media is very responsible for many of our problems with their "spin."
Replace the word "spin" with "lies" and you will have the right picture of the manipulations the media is perpetrating.

The sensationalism of relatively unimportant issues is as irresponsible as yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater.

Notice I am not blaming conservatives or liberals but the media as a whole. They are a large part of our problem in this country.

And WTF are Obama's advisors czars?
Couldn't we just call them "unaccountable government officials?" Anything is better than a Russian word associated with communist leadership or the Russian monarchy.


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Besides the obvious slants on stories, some just flat omit some and never cover others, i.e. Tea Party coverage, town hall meeting coverage, etc. Just because those aren't covered, doesn't mean they never happened...

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It's too bad NPR can't deliver unbiased news and opinion, given that they are non-profit. As far back as I can remember though, they have always had a liberal slant.
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At the end of the day, none of them are worth a shit. US citizens have made it so any credible news source would never survive and make a ton of money.

Two issues that are always important to me are OIF/OEF.

1. They never report on them now. (Why?...you'll see)

2. Solider/US Military death counts are decreasing drastically. Really? Do US citizens get off over our dead military personnel?

3. Improvements are happening leaps and bounds, at least in the OIF theater of operations.

How do I know any of this? I dig through military sites and the AL sites. They are not sensationalized and many of these reports are generated on personnel on site (CG, etc...etc). The same people that would scream about how bad it is if it were.

That is just ONE issue in modern times that is completely forgotten about and/or mistold by the US media. In general the media is 100% worthless and public enemy #1 IMO. Waaay above illegal immigration.

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I don't watch much TV at all just don't have time. I am a big fan of Glenn Beck not so much of him himself but a lot of the things he is about. He is resposible for so many people waking up including myself when he started the WE SURROUND THEM and 9-12 project stuff that has taken on a life of its own. I do listen to his radio show and a few others in the background at work. I also find myself less and less on car sites and more on news and political blogs latley.

One thing I suggest is reading. Read Dreams of my Father by Obama. Read Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinski. Read The 5000 Year Leap , Read Common Sense by Glenn Beck. Read Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin. Read the Forgotten Man and there are many more.

You will start to understand whats going on and you will also realise Bush was taking us in same direction it just the Obama is in a full sprint while Bush was just jogging.



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Most of the news stations are sounding more and more like Alex Jones.
Fox news can be truthful just depends who is on, Fox news still has a few chicken shits trying to suck ass to the Gov.

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Everyday on my way into class I'll grab a copy of the WSJ and read it through.

Outside of that, I just go to Google News. They post a bunch of articles up, but the nice part is that for every article they post up they'll put links to 5 or 6 similar articles about the same story but from different sources. Very useful.

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Yeah, it's really nice to have, especially with the free online subscription.

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You shouldn't be watching any news. You should read news articles online and form your own opinion.
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i usually go to ABCnews.com first, NBCnews second, Foxnews.com third. Usually out of all three i have a good understanding of a story.
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i usually go to ABCnews.com first, NBCnews second, Foxnews.com third. Usually out of all three i have a good understanding of a story.
not really.

All three are very capable of fucking the whole story up. They still get most of their economic and business news wrong. They regularly take corporate press releases and pass them as news. They watch CEO's and investment analysts come on an tell outright lies but almost never challenge any of them. One of the reasons I like John Stewart is because he regularly throws all of them under the bus for the bullshit they spew forth.

A huge example is the oil and gas story from last summer. Not a damn one of those news outlets reported that speculation was driving the price of oil. Instead they put on investment analysts from the various investment houses that have a vested interest in having oil prices remain high. Shit, those fuckers couldn't even tell you what a contango is.

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Yes, regardless of the news source - they don't tell the whole story - much less the whole story in an unbiased manner.

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