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Abortion and illegals in healthcare proposals

There has just recently been a Democratic Congressman who has come out and said that Obama is either lying or doesn't know the bills if he is claiming abortion won't be paid for by tax dollars or covered in the plan.

I also heard a woman reading a house bill and the bill says it will cover "American residents". Why would it say that? Shouldn't it say "American citizens" so that it is clear that illegals are not covered?

Please post up if you want government healthcare coverage, if you want it to cover abortions, and if you want it to cover illegals immigrants.

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Government paying for abortions will cause abortion rate to rise dramatically, I am a pro-choice person, and that would seem to make it too much of an easy way out of pregnancy.

And the thought of my tax money going to people who don't even belong here pisses me off..

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EMTALA act of 1986 already gives illegals a black check when it comes to healthcare. of the 3 main healthcare bills being proposed none of them have anything to do with illegals, in fact all the bills purposely exclude any money for illegals from the bill because the dems know that any new bill would cap or void EMTALA.

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EMTALA act of 1986 already gives illegals a black check when it comes to healthcare. of the 3 main healthcare bills being proposed none of them have anything to do with illegals, in fact all the bills purposely exclude any money for illegals from the bill because the dems know that any new bill would cap or void EMTALA.
So please explain why they have the wording in them that says the bills are for "American residents" and not American citizens. If you actually believe the Dems will not cover abortions and illegals (even when other Dems are now coming out and admitting it), you are definitley drinking the far left koolaid and I wonder why you trust them.

Are you under 20 years old?

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So please explain why they have the wording in them that says the bills are for "American residents" and not American citizens. If you actually believe the Dems will not cover abortions and illegals (even when other Dems are now coming out and admitting it), you are definitley drinking the far left koolaid and I wonder why you trust them.

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Remember...we're dealing with habitual liars here, so "intent" means a lot more than words. What it they pass the bill, then Barry grants amnesty to all illegals?

On the gov't paid abortion issue...Planned Parenthood will be getting millions in gov't funds. What does Planned Parenthood do? See, the bill is not going to intentionally spell out these things, because they want to leave as much as they can up to "interpretation". People better have a vivid imagination when it comes to this steaming turd of a bill, because it's so convoluted and open-ended, the possibilities are endless.

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So please explain why they have the wording in them that says the bills are for "American residents" and not American citizens. If you actually believe the Dems will not cover abortions and illegals (even when other Dems are now coming out and admitting it), you are definitley drinking the far left koolaid and I wonder why you trust them.

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the bill clearly reads: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

have you read the EMTALA act? the democratss could not write a better bill for illegal's healthcare, no-way in hell would any liberal want mess that up, it requires hospitals to provide care for illegals, but (and here is the real kicker) it mentions nothing about how to pay for it. probably the most liberal piece of legislation that has ever passed with a republican president.

your term "American Resident" applies to legal aliens

I have read much off the bill, and seen nothing with regards to abortion, what section is it?

as a conservative, this bill does something far worse then the lies would have you believe. this bill is simply the first step in a redistribution of wealth, it takes from the richest Americans and gives to only the poorest, and it takes a bill the size of a phone book to restrict everyone else from getting a piece of it.

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the bill clearly reads: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

have you read the EMTALA act? the democratss could not write a better bill for illegal's healthcare, no-way in hell would any liberal want mess that up, it requires hospitals to provide care for illegals, but (and here is the real kicker) it mentions nothing about how to pay for it. probably the most liberal piece of legislation that has ever passed with a republican president.

your term "American Resident" applies to legal aliens

I have read much off the bill, and seen nothing with regards to abortion, what section is it?

as a conservative, this bill does something far worse then the lies would have you believe. this bill is simply the first step in a redistribution of wealth, it takes from the richest Americans and gives to only the poorest, and it takes a bill the size of a phone book to restrict everyone else from getting a piece of it.
Do you ever read other posts'? Through Planned Parenthood, the public will pay for abortions. That's what they do. They will be getting gov't subsidies (our money) and performing abortions.

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Do you ever read other posts'? Through Planned Parenthood, the public will pay for abortions. That's what they do. They will be getting gov't subsidies (our money) and performing abortions.
I read plenty of posts, did you read the bill? show me the section of the bill that provides money for abortions.

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your term "American Resident" applies to legal aliens
No, American Resident refers to ANYONE residing in America. Illegal or not. American Citizen, applies to legal aliens.
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I read plenty of posts, did you read the bill? show me the section of the bill that provides money for abortions.
I think he just explained this.

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the bill clearly reads: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

have you read the EMTALA act? the democratss could not write a better bill for illegal's healthcare, no-way in hell would any liberal want mess that up, it requires hospitals to provide care for illegals, but (and here is the real kicker) it mentions nothing about how to pay for it. probably the most liberal piece of legislation that has ever passed with a republican president.

your term "American Resident" applies to legal aliens

I have read much off the bill, and seen nothing with regards to abortion, what section is it?

as a conservative, this bill does something far worse then the lies would have you believe. this bill is simply the first step in a redistribution of wealth, it takes from the richest Americans and gives to only the poorest, and it takes a bill the size of a phone book to restrict everyone else from getting a piece of it.
You may claim to be a conservative, but you defned the bill and trust the Dems like a typicl liberal.

The writing of the bill allows for accepted medical procedures, and abortion is an accepted and legal medical procedure.

And if you don't think the Dems want unfettered abortions and citizen rights given to illegals, you are pretty naive, and maybe even stupid.

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I read plenty of posts, did you read the bill? show me the section of the bill that provides money for abortions.
It's all around you, read this thread again and pay attention.

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I read "Welcome to Obamaland: I Have Seen Your Future and It Doesn't Work" and it outlines exactly what we're in for if this socialist BS passes. It covers the "healthcare" in England and discusses how people from other countries come to England for a medical vacation since they can get free healthcare on the backs of the English. Obamacare is not good for the United States of America.
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I read plenty of posts, did you read the bill? show me the section of the bill that provides money for abortions.
Like you, I read a lot of it, and I explained how abortion will be subsidized. Planned Parenthood (and other organizations) will be getting funds from this bill. Why is it hard for you to understand the explanation? You can't be that thick. How do you think alot of stimulus money goes to ACORN? "ACORN" is not mentioned BY NAME in the stimulus. Through earmarks and vagueness, it gets there. Keep burying your head in the sand...it seems to work well for you.

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EMTALA sucks in its current form...as stated above, we have to see everyone that comes in the doors of emergency rooms across the country but we get no help from the govt as far as protection from litigation and guarantee of payment. If we are required by law to see everyone then we should get compensated and/or immune from litigation...when they dont pay and/or are proven not to have an emergency medical condition. Some hospitals are placing PA's in triage and they are performing the mandatory emergency screening exam and if they do not have an emergent condition, then they are required to pay a fee...$50-100 to get to see the doctor. I like this idea. The good thing about where I work now is that 96% of our patients have some form of insurance...
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If a baby is born in the United States then it is a legal resident. So why wouldnt the fetus be covered by health care? And if an illegal wants to get an abortion, shouldnt we let her?

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If a baby is born in the United States then it is a legal resident. So why wouldnt the fetus be covered by health care? And if an illegal wants to get an abortion, shouldnt we let her?
According to you liberals, anyone who wants an abortion, at any time, trimester, or age, should be allowed to have an abortion.

You have become the new gpamp dude.

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If a baby is born in the United States then it is a legal resident. So why wouldnt the fetus be covered by health care?
You answered your own question.

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And if an illegal wants to get an abortion, shouldnt we let her?
They can do what ever they choose, as long as they do it somewhere else and I don't have to pay for it.

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If a baby is born in the United States then it is a legal resident. So why wouldnt the fetus be covered by health care? And if an illegal wants to get an abortion, shouldnt we let her?
I hope to see you at the Chet Edwards town hall meeting this Saturday. Surely you'll be there to support socialized medicine...
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I think we should just take the VA hospital system and expand it to all other health care providers. Since the system works so well for veterans and all.
Take the VA, Social Security, Medicare, and the USPS, and you'll have a pretty good idea how well socialized medicine will work.

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You may claim to be a conservative, but you defned the bill and trust the Dems like a typicl liberal.

The writing of the bill allows for accepted medical procedures, and abortion is an accepted and legal medical procedure.

And if you don't think the Dems want unfettered abortions and citizen rights given to illegals, you are pretty naive, and maybe even stupid.
I define the bill as it is because I have read it, its a redistribution of wealth, its not about illegals, or abortions, or death panels. the special interests groups have a lot a stake on both sides of this debate, and so far they have done a good job clouding this debate with social issues. such a good job that everyone on both sides has failed to see that this is just the first step in redistribution of wealth.

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I define the bill as it is because I have read it, its a redistribution of wealth, its not about illegals, or abortions, or death panels. the special interests groups have a lot a stake on both sides of this debate, and so far they have done a good job clouding this debate with social issues. such a good job that everyone on both sides has failed to see that this is just the first step in redistribution of wealth.



I can read a piece of legislation for myself, I dont need to other people to me their interpretation of what they heard from some special interest group.
If you can't read it and see what they intend then your comprehension is poor at best. I also wonder why you trust the Dems.

I can see the redistribution but I also see the abortion and illegal immigrant agenda in these bills. If you can't read the proof in this thread and then re-read the bills and see it, I bet you are a RP type conservative and don't realize you are not really a conservative. A true conservative cares about all conservative values including social issues, but you RP types are pseudo conservatives at best.

Are you a RP supporter or not?

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If you can't read it and see what they intend then your comprehension is poor at best. I also wonder why you trust the Dems.

I can see the redistribution but I also see the abortion and illegal immigrant agenda in these bills. If you can't read the proof in this thread and then re-read the bills and see it, I bet you are a RP type conservative and don't realize you are not really a conservative. A true conservative cares about all conservative values including social issues, but you RP types are pseudo conservatives at best.

Are you a RP supporter or not?
He's waaaay too gullible to be a true conservative. He's correct about the "redistribution of wealth", but hell, that's what Barry's all about. That's not a shocker to me. It's all the "undefined" parts of the bill (loose ends, if you will) that will allow for money to go to all sorts of "non-profit" groups that are really all about special interest. It's just like that shitty stimulus bill. We have no way of knowing where any (or all) of that money is going, because it was never defined in the bill. Therefore, those in power just send it wherever they want...like special interest groups, for example?

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He's waaaay too gullible to be a true conservative. He's correct about the "redistribution of wealth", but hell, that's what Barry's all about. That's not a shocker to me. It's all the "undefined" parts of the bill (loose ends, if you will) that will allow for money to go to all sorts of "non-profit" groups that are really all about special interest. It's just like that shitty stimulus bill. We have no way of knowing where any (or all) of that money is going, because it was never defined in the bill. Therefore, those in power just send it wherever they want...like special interest groups, for example?
Don't these self proclaimed conservatives who don't care a bit about social issues always seem to be RP supporters though? I think I will start calling the RP types who claim to be conservative CINO's. How can you be conservative and not care about social issues?

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Why attack people that do not think and believe the same as you? Seems like the theme of this site, no? I havent really given a damn about politics as I always felt that it was something out of my control and it never really affected me until this fool was elected. Now I wouldnt care if he caught a bullet...but there is a long line of people from the same mold as him standing in line to take over if that happens...but it sure would send out a message though.
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Why attack people that do not think and believe the same as you? Seems like the theme of this site, no? I havent really given a damn about politics as I always felt that it was something out of my control and it never really affected me until this fool was elected. Now I wouldnt care if he caught a bullet...but there is a long line of people from the same mold as him standing in line to take over if that happens...but it sure would send out a message though.
You, for one, better give a damn now. His proposed health care plan could have you working 100 hours a week, and making $70k a year.

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Would you mind putting out your opinions for all to see? If you have already done so, I missed it, sorry.

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LOL! I think he means how you feel about "ObamaCare", or "TeddyCare", or whatever the hell they're calling it this week.

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Of course I am against that BS he is pushing. I am still dumbfounded how easy the pussification of America really was...I am actually scared about my children's future.
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Very succint and to the point.

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Very succint and to the point.
Hell, compared to this current ass-clown, I'm starting to miss Jimmy Carter!

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I have read this bill....... This is the reason I have not been on here much latley.


My conclusion.

This bill is as clear as mud. From start to finish.

There is a lot of power left up to the people or person in charge of this mess. (The Czar)

Now keep this in mind. If most of the power is in the hands of the Czar, then you must assume that the care given during the time any one czar will be on his terms, and line of thinking.

The current czar has written a few books on eugenics. <----- This means population control.

What ever happened to the U.S. being the land of the Free and the Brave?
The "Free and the brave" would never endorse socialized anything!

Socialization = stealing from hard working people to give to the people that would hold their had out for something they did not, have not, or will not earn them selves !



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If you can't read it and see what they intend then your comprehension is poor at best. I also wonder why you trust the Dems.

I can see the redistribution but I also see the abortion and illegal immigrant agenda in these bills. If you can't read the proof in this thread and then re-read the bills and see it, I bet you are a RP type conservative and don't realize you are not really a conservative. A true conservative cares about all conservative values including social issues, but you RP types are pseudo conservatives at best.

Are you a RP supporter or not?
explain to me why you think that this bill will give illegals anything? knowing that the EMTALA act already gives illegals everything they could want with regards to healthcare, and that any new bill would actually restrict EMTALA.
To many people are being blinded by the special interest surrounding this legislation, and are not seeing it for what it really is, those who want to continue living in darkness be my guest.

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I hope to see you at the Chet Edwards town hall meeting this Saturday. Surely you'll be there to support socialized medicine...
It's at the Convention Center in Waco from 10am till noon.
I have to work, so I can't be there. Tell them to take their health care bill and shove it for me? I sent him an e-mail, but I think saying it in person works a bit better.
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I have read this bill....... This is the reason I have not been on here much latley.


My conclusion.

This bill is as clear as mud. From start to finish.

There is a lot of power left up to the people or person in charge of this mess. (The Czar)

Now keep this in mind. If most of the power is in the hands of the Czar, then you must assume that the care given during the time any one czar will be on his terms, and line of thinking.

The current czar has written a few books on eugenics. <----- This means population control.

What ever happened to the U.S. being the land of the Free and the Brave?
The "Free and the brave" would never endorse socialized anything!

Socialization = stealing from hard working people to give to the people that would hold their had out for something they did not, have not, or will not earn them selves !
That is EXACTLY what I've been saying about this turd of a bill. There are very few absolute's, and it is done in a devious manner. It leaves too many unanswered questions about who/where the funds can go too, and what they can be used for.

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explain to me why you think that this bill will give illegals anything? knowing that the EMTALA act already gives illegals everything they could want with regards to healthcare, and that any new bill would actually restrict EMTALA.
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It will give illegals the same status as a citizen. The wording says all "American residents" will be covered. I have heard many Democratic leaders and liberal talking heads call them "residents" and taxpayers, and many other terms, but never illegal aliens.

This is why the bill will cover them once it gets enacted. They will never admit it will cover illegals, but it will. They won't admit it because even some so-called conservatives like you will drink their koolaid. Just because you refuse to see it doesn't mean it won't happen dude.

I knew you were a RP supporter "conservative", which means you aren't a conservative at all, proven by your trust in and support for the Dems health care plan. If you are such a true conservative, tell us your stance on gay marriage, abortion, illegal immigration, the death penalty, taxes, and many of the social issues facing us today.

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I have thought of this as a giant money grab from the beginning. Grab all the money going into insurance companies and spend (redistribute it) however the socialists want. This and every other piece of BS legislation thrown out there by the left needs to be killed.
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It will give illegals the same status as a citizen. The wording says all "American residents" will be covered. I have heard many Democratic leaders and liberal talking heads call them "residents" and taxpayers, and many other terms, but never illegal aliens.

This is why the bill will cover them once it gets enacted. They will never admit it will cover illegals, but it will. They won't admit it because even some so-called conservatives like you will drink their koolaid. Just because you refuse to see it doesn't mean it won't happen dude.

I knew you were a RP supporter "conservative", which means you aren't a conservative at all, proven by your trust in and support for the Dems health care plan. If you are such a true conservative, tell us your stance on gay marriage, abortion, illegal immigration, the death penalty, taxes, and many of the social issues facing us today.
first off I do not support the democrats or their bill, if you can not figure that out by reading my posts then you need to go back to what ever university you received a degree from and ask for your money back.

obviously you have not even glanced at the bill,or you would have this passage: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." there is also a full page in section 246 that reiterates how and why this bill can not be applied to illegals. and if you have read the rest of the bill then you would already know how much documentation will be required to even apply for this program, in addition to background checks and credit checks, plenty of red tape before anyone can join this program, let alone an illegal.

did you even bother to look up the EMTALA act? or have your special interest friends not yet told you what your opinion on the matter should be? if you did look it up, then you would understand, that illegals could not possibly receive a better deal when it comes to healthcare. thus the Democrats would never ever come up with a bill that would threaten to change the EMTALA act.

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Neither is in the proposal.

However... ALIENS ARE GOING TO GET YOU!
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first off I do not support the democrats or their bill, if you can not figure that out by reading my posts then you need to go back to what ever university you received a degree from and ask for your money back.

obviously you have not even glanced at the bill,or you would have this passage: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." there is also a full page in section 246 that reiterates how and why this bill can not be applied to illegals. and if you have read the rest of the bill then you would already know how much documentation will be required to even apply for this program, in addition to background checks and credit checks, plenty of red tape before anyone can join this program, let alone an illegal.

did you even bother to look up the EMTALA act? or have your special interest friends not yet told you what your opinion on the matter should be? if you did look it up, then you would understand, that illegals could not possibly receive a better deal when it comes to healthcare. thus the Democrats would never ever come up with a bill that would threaten to change the EMTALA act.
So you trust your special interest groups that claim there is no way "American resident" will ever be redefined as all people who reside in America, right? Say waht you want, but trusting the Dems and their lying ways on this issue and abortion make you look foolish.

My only special interest is what I think is best for me, ny family, and the country. It is called being an American.

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Neither is in the proposal.

However... ALIENS ARE GOING TO GET YOU!
I know you haven't read shit because you can't read. Now leave...

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Neither is in the proposal.

However... ALIENS ARE GOING TO GET YOU!
Hey douchebag, where have you been? I think we have a few questions for you about Obama. Are you up for them? If so, I will start a thread where you can respond about how you think things are going for your Messiah.

The topics will include, but not be limited to:

When is Obama totally responsible for everything? (Remember you and your liberal friends sure claimed Bush was completely responsible for 9/11, and that date is fast approaching for the Messiah!)

How is Obama doing so far on taxes, the deficit, the bailouts, his promises from the camapign that have turned out to be lies.

Your opinion about Obamacare.

The econmy under Obamanomics.

The polls about his approval rating, both politically and personally, dropping like a stone.

I have others, but that will suffice for now. I a sure others will follow if you promise to answer in a thread about your opinions on these topics.


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Hey douchebag, where have you been? I think we have a few questions for you about Obama. Are you up for them? If so, I will start a thread where you can respond about how you think things are going for your Messiah.

The topics will include, but not be limited to:

When is Obama totally responsible for everything? (Remember you and your liberal friends sure claimed Bush was completely responsible for 9/11, and that date is fast approaching for the Messiah!)

How is Obama doing so far on taxes, the deficit, the bailouts, his promises from the camapign that have turned out to be lies.

Your opinion about Obamacare.

The econmy under Obamanomics.

The polls about his approval rating, both politically and personally, dropping like a stone.

I have others, but that will suffice for now. I a sure others will follow if you promise to answer in a thread about your opinions on these topics.



Way to go. You ran him off.
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I was wondering when he'd get back in here.
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Way to go. You ran him off.
Is that a bad thing?

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Is that a bad thing?
Hell, no. But it's funny how the biggest scumbag in the democratic party kicks the bucket, and he appears. Coincidence? I don't think so...

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