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By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 48 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Attorney General Eric Holder is considering whether to appoint a criminal prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's interrogation practices, a controversial move that would run counter to President Barack Obama's wishes to leave the issue in the past.

Holder plans to make a final decision within the next few weeks, a Justice Department official told The Associated Press on Saturday night. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on a pending matter.

Justice Department spokesman Matt Miller said Holder planned to "follow the facts and the law."

"We have made no decisions on investigations or prosecutions, including whether to appoint a prosecutor to conduct further inquiry," he said. "As the attorney general has made clear, it would be unfair to prosecute any official who acted in good faith based on legal guidance from the Justice Department."

A move to appoint a prosecutor is certain to stir partisan bickering that could create a distraction to Obama's efforts to push health care and energy reform. Obama has repeatedly expressed reluctance to having a probe, saying the nation should be "looking forward and not backwards" when it came to Bush-era abuses.

Newsweek magazine, which first reported the development on Saturday, said Holder was aware of the political implications of having a probe and preferred not to create unnecessary trouble for the White House. Still, the attorney general was troubled by what he learned in reports about the treatment of prisoners at the CIA's "black sites."

The probe would focus in part on whether CIA personnel tortured terrorism suspects after Sept. 11, 2001. Holder has said those who acted within the government's legal guidance will not be prosecuted, but has left open the possibility of pursuing those who went beyond the guidance and broke the law.

Holder has discussed with his staff the possibility of a prosecutor, saying he needed someone with "gravitas and grit," the magazine reported. In the end, the attorney general asked for a list of 10 candidates, five from within the Justice Department and five from outside.

"I hope that whatever decision I make would not have a negative impact on the president's agenda," Holder told Newsweek. "But that can't be a part of my decision."
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I think Obama saw his falling approval ratings and decided he needs a little voter distraction..

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I think Obama saw his falling approval ratings and decided he needs a little voter distraction..
A headline that says,"Meteor the size of California headed for earth", couldn't save this guy...

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Pelosi could have personally pushed bamboo splinters under the nails of every detainee there ever was and she would still get a pass...

It's going to be a witch hunt, plain and simple. Personally, let it happen. It will be one more thing that pushes the temperature in the boiling cauldron that is our society up a degree or two.

My muse is that I wonder how far from that point we truly are...
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A headline that says,"Meteor the size of California headed for earth", couldn't save this guy...
I wouldn't say that this early in his term. Of course I hope he ends up being a one term President but a lot can change in a very short period of time. Just look at how high the approval ratings were for the first President Bush. People were predicting the end of the Democratic party but in the end he lost to Clinton because Perot got into the election. Just one thing ended his political career.

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I wouldn't say that this early in his term. Of course I hope he ends up being a one term President but a lot can change in a very short period of time. Just look at how high the approval ratings were for the first President Bush. People were predicting the end of the Democratic party but in the end he lost to Clinton because Perot got into the election. Just one thing ended his political career.
"Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES"....THAT is what ended his career. One mis-speak, or "lie", if you're a democrat. Barry's are mounting as we speak.

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"Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES"....THAT is what ended his career. One mis-speak, or "lie", if you're a democrat. Barry's are mounting as we speak.
Bush would have likely won if Perot hadn't entered the race. Of course if he hadn't raised taxes or negotiated NAFTA Perot probably wouldn't have ran in the first place.

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Bush would have likely won if Perot hadn't entered the race. Of course if he hadn't raised taxes or negotiated NAFTA Perot probably wouldn't have ran in the first place.
Honestly, I voted for Perot, or "my conscience". Never again...

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This is going to wind up McCarthy hearings more than anything. I bet zero democrats get caught up in it. Seriously we need to focus on the economy and Iran and NK right now
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This is going to wind up McCarthy hearings more than anything. I bet zero democrats get caught up in it. Seriously we need to focus on the economy and Iran and NK right now
I think Barry's focus is to keep us unfocused on his atrocious policies. If folks are watching "witch trials" on Clinton News Network, they won't pay attention to the real issues at hand.

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I think Barry's focus is to keep us unfocused on his atrocious policies. If folks are watching "witch trials" on Clinton News Network, they won't pay attention to the real issues at hand.
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It's all a show.... So once again, Dick Cheney is the boogie man... I could have written the script for this. These people think we are idiots....

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It's all a show.... So once again, Dick Cheney is the boogie man... I could have written the script for this. These people think we are idiots....

If we, as a collective, fall for it there must be some truth in the thought process...
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I was wondering who they were going to crucify. No surprise in the dick cheney choice. They have been wanting to vilify him for years.

And we really need a witch hunt right now with two wars going on, the economy going to hell, and the unemployment figures shooting off of the chart. Like someone said, obama needs a distraction to take the focus off of his failed policies.
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