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so why are the gas prices going up again?

last time they went up all i heard was ''it's Bush raising the gas prices!" and blah blah blah

well now what's the excuse?

i know this could have gone in the Political Forum but i'm a simple man that needs a simple awnser damn it!
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Ding Ding Ding. People gotta put gas in their boats, and go on vacations. Legal price gouging, in other words.
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Doesn't have anything to do with the commodities markets making a comeback over the last few months...
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Doesn't have anything to do with the commodities markets making a comeback over the last few months...
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What I want to know is why is diesel staying cheap? All of last year diesel was always more expensive than regular gas and this summer so far its stayed down in price

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haha i love it, can not blame bush now, it is simple supply and demand!
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haha i love it, can not blame bush now, it is simple supply and demand!
its not supply and demand... it is speculators just as it was last year. Bush had nothing to do with it then and Obama has nothing to do with it now... except for him trying to push his Green energy agenda and canceling any offshore drilling exploration/ projects.
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Greed of a small few = High prices for me and you.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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last time they went up all i heard was ''it's Bush raising the gas prices!" and blah blah blah

well now what's the excuse?

i know this could have gone in the Political Forum but i'm a simple man that needs a simple awnser damn it!
bush is still doing it from beyond the grave....ooooooo

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good grief.....move this shit to the political forum!!!

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haha, yea that's part of why i started the thread. cause bush was in office it was all his fault, now that obama is in office it's normal
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and with this being the beginning of hurricane season; just wait until the first hint of a possible hurricane...... it will shoot up fitty-cent over night.

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What I want to know is why is diesel staying cheap? All of last year diesel was always more expensive than regular gas and this summer so far its stayed down in price
Several refiners increased their production capacity to make more low sulphur diesel. We were a net diesel exporter for years because it couldn't be sold here thanks to the EPA and their horseshit. Now the refiners have added capacity so diesel is going to be priced more appropriately. It should stay priced under regular gas just like it used to be.

Just another example of how the government and the EPA fucked every diesel owner out of thousands of dollars with their green bullshit. Fucking maggots.
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Actually its Obama's policies.

With all the fucking stupid corporate bailouts to whomever asks, Obama's administration is printing money like its going out of style. This has caused our dollar to plummet in the interational markets. Since the dollar is worth a lot less, it requires more of it to buy the same fucking oil.

STOP BAILOUTS JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

And this Cap and Trade bullshit he wants pass will only drive it up more.

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Its summer. There are still ships circling in the ocean waiting for the price to go up. Oil went to $70+ a barrel today but went back down to $68.

It is estimated that oil will go up to $85 a barrel by the end of summer. With Obama shutting down over half of the leases I would expect higher, maybe even close to what it was last summer.

If Obama does not open up more leases gas will sore. I am almost scared that we will see shortages within the next year or so. I need a truck for work but I am hesitant because I know the gas prices will sore.
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I saw $2.93 today in san diego.

I think what we're gonna see in the next couple of years is going to make $4/gallon gas look cheap.
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I saw $2.93 today in san diego.

I think what we're gonna see in the next couple of years is going to make $4/gallon gas look cheap.
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Correct me if I heard wrong...but I was told once that gas for the summer was more expensive to produce than gas used during the winter.

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I dont think the government controls gas prices but does anyone remember when right before the congress elections came up, gas prices dropped like crazy? Makes ya wonder

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What I want to know is why is diesel staying cheap? All of last year diesel was always more expensive than regular gas and this summer so far its stayed down in price
This is because drilling rigs, workover rigs, etc. are not using diesel up anymore because of no work. Think of all the diesel the oilfield was using when it was booming. It was supply and demand the last 2 years now there is not much demand.

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This is because drilling rigs, workover rigs, etc. are not using diesel up anymore because of no work. Think of all the diesel the oilfield was using when it was booming. It was supply and demand the last 2 years now there is not much demand.
There isn't a summer blend of Diesel.

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bush is still doing it from beyond the grave....ooooooo
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Greed of a small few = High prices for me and you.
This is right on the money and its fucking bullshit.....
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arent there still oil tankers sitting in the gulf and in ports loaded with oil still?
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There isn't a summer blend of Diesel.
Funny, there is a winter blend?

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arent there still oil tankers sitting in the gulf and in ports loaded with oil still?
that's what i was thinking...


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Funny, there is a winter blend?

i don't know for sure that there is actually a "winter blend" or "summer blend", but i've always heard that diesel prices go up during the winter because of heating fuels being used so much up north.
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Something to ponder

When oil was in the 140's, gas hit 4.00

When oil was at 35, gas was 1.25.

Now oil is at 70 and and gas is 2.50.


If the correlation continues, the next time oil is in the 140's you will be paying 5.00 a gallon instead of 4.00.



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We go through this every time gas goes up...very few folks on this site really know the refining process and how it works. Consequently, a lot of parties are blamed for things that are not their fault.

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We go through this every time gas goes up...very few folks on this site really know the refining process and how it works. Consequently, a lot of parties are blamed for things that are not their fault.

True , but in 2008 from jan to jun gas prices increased 50% compared to 100% in the same period this year.

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Like it was said earlier... diesel prices are down since refineries are now able to keep up with demand for ULSD...... Before they had to pay for changes to upgrade equipment and production was lower thus prices went up due to demand.

Hell my mom is loving the diesel prices right now. in LV the price of diesel is almost .25 lower than regular gas. Plus my Grand Cherokee is still knocking down 23.5 mpg (mix driving). My biggest bummer now is that she wants to buy my jeep oh and the fact it has 10k miles already in 2 months of ownership.

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I just think it is funny that the Democrats are going to be the last people who do anything about big oil and the speculators manipulating the market. $6 or $7 per gallon of gas goes great with the Democratic Congress' hidden agenda of forcing alternative energy on the American people no matter the cost. The amusement comes from them crying for the past eight years about big oil when it is now their new best friend.
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its not supply and demand... it is speculators just as it was last year. Bush had nothing to do with it then and Obama has nothing to do with it now... except for him trying to push his Green energy agenda and canceling any offshore drilling exploration/ projects.
Truth. Gasoline is one of the few things that isn't working with supply and demand.
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Truth. Gasoline is one of the few things that isn't working with supply and demand.
It hasn't been for at least 9 years in my opinion and it probably never will again. In 2008 you had 27 contracts trade hands for every physical barrel of oil that traded. These idiots are doing the same sort of shit with oil that they did with credit default swaps.
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True , but in 2008 from jan to jun gas prices increased 50% compared to 100% in the same period this year.

I suddenly feel all warm and fucked on the inside knowing that it only went up half a fucking from what it was last year at this time...
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Several refiners increased their production capacity to make more low sulphur diesel. We were a net diesel exporter for years because it couldn't be sold here thanks to the EPA and their horseshit. Now the refiners have added capacity so diesel is going to be priced more appropriately. It should stay priced under regular gas just like it used to be.

Just another example of how the government and the EPA fucked every diesel owner out of thousands of dollars with their green bullshit. Fucking maggots.
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Actually its Obama's policies.

With all the fucking stupid corporate bailouts to whomever asks, Obama's administration is printing money like its going out of style. This has caused our dollar to plummet in the interational markets. Since the dollar is worth a lot less, it requires more of it to buy the same fucking oil.

STOP BAILOUTS JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

And this Cap and Trade bullshit he wants pass will only drive it up more.
Yes and No.. mainly no.

Oil prices have grown over 100% this year. The dollar hasn't even dropped 10%.


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I just think it is funny that the Democrats are going to be the last people who do anything about big oil and the speculators manipulating the market. $6 or $7 per gallon of gas goes great with the Democratic Congress' hidden agenda of forcing alternative energy on the American people no matter the cost. The amusement comes from them crying for the past eight years about big oil when it is now their new best friend.
I think that is correct to a point. The Democrats do want higher gas prices to force people into more economical cars. However Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame because both are owned by the financial lobbies that are behind the rise in prices.

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It hasn't been for at least 9 years in my opinion and it probably never will again. In 2008 you had 27 contracts trade hands for every physical barrel of oil that traded. These idiots are doing the same sort of shit with oil that they did with credit default swaps.
You are dead on correct. The only thing that can change this is if the Commodities Modernization Act of 2001 is repealed. Take WTI off those dark exchanges and we'll see something closer to sanity in the markets. But that isn't going to happen because, as I stated earlier, both the Democrats and Republicans are OWNED by financial lobby.

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Everything's about money, and that's disappointing.

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We're now over 50 days straight in which the prices have gone up. Heard an article yesterday talking about how it's actually good because last year at this time we were $1.40 higher...
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Also a lot of invstors are running to oil for the fear of inflation... The weaker dollar doesn't oil prices either

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you know that guy on the hwy who has the 4x4 diesel jacked to the sky pulling his twin 454 baja behind it? its his fault

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you know that guy on the hwy who has the 4x4 diesel jacked to the sky pulling his twin 454 baja behind it? its his fault
haha, nice. i saw one of those guys today
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