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ATF raids Wallingford mobile home
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http://www.myrecordjournal.com/site/...d=592709&rfi=6

05/15/2009 ATF raids Wallingford mobile home By: Mary Ellen Godin , Record-Journal staff

WALLINGFORD - A usually quiet mobile home park was shaken Friday morning when about 15 officers from the U.S. bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local police descended on one of their neighbor's homes with force.

"They had their guns drawn and were surrounding the house," said Jennifer Monroe of Hosford Bridge Road. "These weren't small guns, they were machine guns. It wasn't normal."

Lynne Boynton, of 15 Hosford Bridge Road, went to her husband's truck for coffee money at about 6 a.m. and was pushed to the driveway and handcuffed with an officer's knee in her back and a gun to her head.

ATF officers surrounded her father-in-law's home at Western Sands Mobile Home Park and used a battering ram to enter the unlocked home in the rear, Boynton said.

"They were pouring out of there like crazy," said Monroe, who can easily see the front door. "They had Lynne in handcuffs. We were like 'What are they looking for?' "

Once inside, officers pulled Gilman Boynton and Paul Boynton out of bed, the men said. Paul Boynton said three or four officers threw him to the floor and put a gun to his head. Gilman Boynton, 76, who suffers from a heart condition, was made to sit in the living room, he said.

"Don't I have any rights?" a visibly shaken Gilman Boynton said. "I've been living here for over 40 years. The police have been here and seen my guns."

The family was told by ATF officers that the agency received a tip six weeks ago that a convicted felon was living at the home and had access to guns, Lynne Boynton said. Paul Boynton was arrested 34 years ago at the age of 17 with a friend who had forged a check. He hasn't been arrested since, he said.

Gilman Boynton is a gun collector, who keeps his rifles in a locked case on the wall, and a Beretta pistol in a safe. On Friday, ATF officers confiscated 14 rifles from the gun case and took his permits, he said. After breaking the safe, the ATF officers left the Beretta with a magazine cartridge still in the safe in Boynton's dresser.

"If they are so worried about guns, why did they leave a pistol in the safe and the holster?" Lynne Boynton said. "It was humiliating; I've never been handcuffed in my life."

According to a search and seizure warrant signed by U.S. District Court Judge Joan G. Margolis in New Haven Thursday, the agents were authorized to seize firearms, ammunition, holsters and destructive devices. They were also looking for personal property that identified the residents, including canceled mail, deeds, leases, rental agreements, photographs, personal telephone books, diaries, utility and telephone bills, statements, identification documents and keys.

The confiscated guns and the arrest warrant must be presented to Margolis in court.

There were no arrests during Friday's raid.

Paul Boynton said he is not a gun enthusiast and didn't make the connection between his 34-year-old conviction and his father's collection.

"This could have been handled so much easier," Boynton said. "All they had to do was have an officer come to my door and tell me."

The Boynton's rear door was bashed and has to be secured. Garbage bags, clothing, jewelry, a television and other household items were dumped in heaps in the various rooms. Paul Boynton, who suffers from herniated discs and other back problems, was having difficulty walking.

The officers called a medic for Gilman Boynton to check his vital signs, and asked if he wanted to be hospitalized. He refused.

"At the end of it when they didn't find nothing, they were real nice," Gilman Boynton said.

Neighbor Natalie Monroe, mother of Jennifer, said in the 21 years she's lived there, she's never seen any disturbances across the street and was shaken at the sight of her neighbor lying in her driveway in handcuffs. She was also concerned about the effects all the excitement would have on Gilman Boynton's health.

"We were floored," Natalie Monroe said. "We were like what the heck is going on? I've never seen anything like this. They went through all their vehicles."

A Wallingford Police Department detective said the department sent several officers to the scene at the request of the ATF. But the department had no knowledge of the details in the case, and referred questions to the bureau. Telephone messages left at the ATF's field offices in New Haven and Boston were not returned.

The officers told the family that Paul Boynton could still be arrested because the keys to the gun rack were hanging up in the kitchen, Lynne Boynton said.

"But I had to help them open it," Gilman Boynton said.
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because that man power and effort could not have been used against a meth lab or crack house.
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It's easier to take down a house where an old man lives and to take down his old lady who's in the truck getting coffee money than a meth house
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and they wonder why we fear our government......

its still "we the people"right?

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34 years ago he forged a check. 34 years. No repeats. And this happens. Is there no longer any common sense at work in this nation?


The government is out of control and this type of occurence will continue to happen, with ever increasing frequency. And we will do nothing at all to stop it.

I'm thinking more and more that Denny hauling ass to a certain island in the Pacific is a smart move. Sure wish I could talk my wife into it...
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Glad they got that dangerous criminal off the streets.
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34 years ago his friend forged a check.
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And that my friends is why I don't support gun registration.
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picking up a g23 today,i must go....

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And that my friends is why I don't support gun registration.

Registration had nothing to do with this, though I'm right there with you...
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And that my friends is why I don't support gun registration.
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You have to love the ATF, those guys really do their homework.
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I have to get out of this thread until my tax stamps return for my 3 suppressors. They have already cashed my checks and the paperwork is on someones desk as they eye threads like this.


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You have to love the ATF, those guys really do their homework.
I'm surprised it wasn't the Waco field office.

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Registration had nothing to do with this, though I'm right there with you...

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The family was told by ATF officers that the agency received a tip six weeks ago that a convicted felon was living at the home and had access to guns, Lynne Boynton said. Paul Boynton was arrested 34 years ago at the age of 17 with a friend who had forged a check. He hasn't been arrested since, he said.

Gilman Boynton is a gun collector, who keeps his rifles in a locked case on the wall, and a Beretta pistol in a safe. On Friday, ATF officers confiscated 14 rifles from the gun case and took his permits, he said. After breaking the safe, the ATF officers left the Beretta with a magazine cartridge still in the safe in Boynton's dresser.
Note the part about gun permits? No required registration means no permit when means the ATF wouldn't have known about his guns to begin with...
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Note the part about gun permits? No required registration means no permit when means the ATF wouldn't have known about his guns to begin with...



Your kidding right....

Every gun purchased is registered. I don't care what they say, they have your info, and they will keep it forever.



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Note the part about gun permits? No required registration means no permit when means the ATF wouldn't have known about his guns to begin with...

My bad, overlooked that...


Bet you're spot on now that I do see it. But then again, living in a trailer and all, how serious a collection could he really have had?
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Your kidding right....

Every gun purchased is registered. I don't care what they say, they have your info, and they will keep it forever.
Have you ever been to a gun show? You could probably say "a good portion of guns purchased are registered" but not every gun.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.

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