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Fucknuts want to raise gas tax now

We really need TERM LIMITS and to vote morons out of office.


http://www.star-telegram.com/189/story/1362750.html

D-FW needs 10-cent gas tax increase for transit projects, official says
By GORDON DICKSON [email protected]

It would take a 10-cents-a-gallon gas tax increase across greater Dallas-Fort Worth to raise $370 million a year for a 200-mile commuter rail system and improvements to area highways, an official said.

The potential nine-county gas tax increase was discussed Wednesday at the Tarrant Regional Transportation Coalition, whose members are watching intently as state lawmakers negotiate a local-option-funding measure in the final weeks of the 2009 legislative session. The measure, if approved, would allow voters in metropolitan counties to consider tax and fee increases to pay for better mobility.

The latest proposal calls for an unspecified gas tax increase in Tarrant, Collin, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, Johnson, Kaufman, Parker and Rockwall counties.

Supporters say the amount would fall short of the estimated $457 million a year needed to build the entire road and rail system but would still be workable.

"It doesnít quite get us there, but it gets us going in the right direction," said Dan Kessler, assistant transportation director for the North Central Texas Council of Governments.

Voters could be sold on a gas tax increase if they understood that the funds would stay in the area that generated them, unlike state and federal gas taxes, Tarrant County Judge Glen Whitley said.

Lawmakers have refused to specify what amount of increase they might allow to go before voters. In the past, lawmakers have talked about an increase of as little as 2 cents a gallon, which would pay for relatively little work.

Another option would be not to raise the gas tax immediately but to index it so that it rises gradually with the cost of living, providing a long-term source of revenue.

Texas motorists pay a 20-cents-a-gallon statewide tax, which hasnít increased since 1991, and an 18.4-cents-a- gallon federal tax, which hasnít increased since 1993.

The original local-option plan, as created by area leaders, was to go to legislators ó and then voters ó with up to six funding options, including gas taxes, driverís license fees and vehicle registration fees. But this week, Rep. Joe Pickett, D-El Paso, began working on a compromise that would allow only a higher local gas tax.

Pickett is chairman of the House Transportation Committee. A vote on the issue could come next week.

A gas tax increase would generate the most revenue of all the options, Whitley said.

Fort Worth Mayor Mike Moncrief told members of the regional transportation coalition that now is the time to pressure business leaders to call their state representatives and urge approval of the bill ó and to make sure opponents donít sway supporters.

"This is the time to act," said Moncrief, a former state legislator. "If we donít act now, we give them an excuse to kill this bill."

Tarrant County leaders have talked mostly about spending their portion of the money on commuter rail lines. But on Wednesday, Whitley said a better strategy may be to spend some of it on road projects such as expanding Interstate 35W north of Fort Worth and working on U.S. 287 and Texas 360 in the Arlington/Mansfield corridor.

Such a move could make the higher gas tax more palatable for voters, Whitley said.

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They won't rest until they collect every dime we make. Sad as they can care less about any quality of life for the masses, but instead only care to take it all...
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And I'll bet we still will have toll roads.

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Sounds like he just made his own term limits.

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And I'll bet we still will have toll roads.
You bet your ass!! The days of state-funded roadways are long fucking gone!

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Somebody say term limit?

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Additions or maintenance of "a 200-mile commuter rail system?" WTF, most roads in this area are in excellent shape and normal taxes should keep them up just fine.

Most days I wish they'd let average citizens that are patient and good with math sit down and look at local, state and federal budgets. I understand infrastructure costs have gone up with the population booms in these areas, but damn it they should have plenty of money if spent wisely.

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And therein lies the problem...

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How about if they get the federal tax money back from Washington and use it? We've been getting IOUs from the feds for years on that money. I guess it is easier to just raise taxes than it is to take a stand.

And don't even get me started on the toll road horseshit.
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I personally believe that before the 2012 elections, all registered voters should have to take a standardized test to prove competance before they can vote again.

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I personally believe that before the 2012 elections, all registered voters should have to take a standardized test to prove competance before they can vote again.

That might help weed out the fools.
You know, I'm guilty of some of our problems. Local voting, the people we get put in positions other then POTUS actually have more to do with our problems then POTUS.

Problem is I don't know a single one of those candidates or their competition.

Either way, term limits should be enacted.

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Mike Moncrief was re-elected just the other day with only 6 percent of the voters voting. Where were you Fort Worth residents? Did you vote? Bitching about does nothing. The problem is apathy. Vote that man out next time!

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Wow...

I wouldn't be worried about this except for all the morons that approved turning 121 into a toll road.

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The problem with a tax hike is that the money gets diverted and split up too much. From the office of the state comptroller:

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Texas Tax Code Section 162.503 allocates one-fourth of the
tax to be deposited to the available school fund, one-half of the tax to be
deposited to the state highway fund for the construction and maintenance of the
state road system, and from the remaining one-fourth of the tax the comptroller
is required to deposit into the county and road district highway fund a total
of $7,300,000 each fiscal year and after that amount has been deposited, the
remainder of the one-fourth of the tax is used by the Texas Department of
Transportation for the construction, improvement, and maintenance of
farm-to-market roads.
http://aixtcp.cpa.state.tx.us/opendo...00509386l.html

So schools get 25%, the state gets 50%, and the county fund gets $7,300,000. Whatever is left over goes toward maintenance of farm to market roads.

This is too much splitting of a finite resource. I think that most people would be OK with a tax hike if every penny was designated for road projects, but that doesn't happen and will not happen.

AND, we will still have toll roads for which we essentially get charged twice for.
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