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But all these dipshit liberals we have around here insist that gun control is not on the agenda. That we're overreacting.


Then I see a poll earlier today on drudge saying that only 53% of the population think capitalism is better than socialism. Socialism. The project that has failed in every single country to try it. Not even ONE success story.


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Whoa whoa whoa whoa take it easy.

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its on the agenda,bet your ass on that.

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That's what they said in England and Australia, right after they passed gun registration laws and before they started taking them away.


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Nobody's taking your guns.
Stick your head back up obamas ass and check back in with us in about a year to see where we are on this.
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Stick your head back up obamas ass and check back in with us in about a year to see where we are on this.
Fuck i dont wana know...

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa take it easy.

Nobody's taking your guns.
in order to take them, you have to know where they are.
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in order to take them, you have to know where they are.

Which is fucked in and of itself as you should not have to hide your possessions from the jack booted thugs we call our government...
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Which is fucked in and of itself as you should not have to hide your possessions from the jack booted thugs we call our government...
Since the economy is so shitty, I sold all mine.

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in order to take them, you have to know where they are.
That's the one concern I have about my CHL...they KNOW I'm packing.

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Nobody's taking your guns.
Yeah, not as long as I have a pulse and ammunition.
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Nobody's taking your guns.
The people in charge now have all iterated this intention in the past, repeatedly, and in the face of overwhelming opposition to the idea. They watched their colleagues get voted out over it in 1996, and they still haven't figured out how unpopular this idea is. I realize they said they wouldn't do anything earlier, but you have to remember that when an election is on, and a politician is changing his/her tune, they're probably lying. The party leadership on both sides is a joke, anyway.

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Which is fucked in and of itself as you should not have to hide your possessions from the ...government.
Correct sir!

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The party leadership on both sides is a joke, anyway.
Amen. Republicans (note that I didn't identify them as conservatives) had control and did jack-squat with it.

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa take it easy.

Nobody's taking your guns.
They may not be taking my guns, but it's no ones business what I keep in my home. Is she going to try and reverse the reciprocal agreement between most states for CHL holders? Once you give them control over your guns (registration) then they will start CONTROLLING how many you are entitled to own. I think the NRA has plenty of money to have the lobbyists fight this one down.
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It's a shame I lost all my firearms and ammo in that boating accident last week.

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I still think regulating the ammo is the route they will take in the end . There are way too many guns on the street to have all of them registered . If you force the ammo manufactors to put serial numbers on the casings , this will drive up the prices on the ammo . Tax the shit out of it on top of that and most people will stop buying it . Without affordable ammo , guns are worthless .

Personally , I can only hope none of the above takes place but America wanted change so here is it .
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Even after the election. Holder jumped the gun a few weeks ago and Pelosi back tracked, basically stating they were not doing anything. They used the media outlets to publicize gun violence over the past few weeks as ammunition to fuel their anti-gun tirade.
Everyone knew this was on their agenda from the start.
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Problem is, they should have started this 100 yrs ago.
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What ever bill they tee up will not pass. There are alot of Democrat Representatives and Senators who are gun owners themselves. I can't wait for the 2010 elections!
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I think your probably going to see a cost increase on ammo, part of that is for the numbers, the other part is just an opportunity for the manufactures to make more money.

the other thing that is coming: insurance companies are lobbying legislatures all over the country to require gun owners to have insurance

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Nobody's taking your guns.
You honestly think that gun registration isnt going to lead to confiscation? Look at the rest of the world that has implemented gun registration. Just off the top of my head you have Australia and England that put registration programs in place and it led to the government telling gun owners that there firearms are now illegal and must be turned in. Gun crime has skyrocketed in these countrys like crazy. Besides, why would the goverment need to know who has guns? The only reason I can think of is confiscation. If you really think that registration will keep criminals from breaking the law you are sadly mistaken. Whats breaking one more law to them?

Your right, they aren't taking our guns .... yet. But if registration is put in place, its only a matter of time.
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You honestly think that gun registration isnt going to lead to confiscation? Look at the rest of the world that has implemented gun registration. Just off the top of my head you have Australia and England that put registration programs in place and it led to the government telling gun owners that there firearms are now illegal and must be turned in. Gun crime has skyrocketed in these countrys like crazy. Besides, why would the goverment need to know who has guns? The only reason I can think of is confiscation. If you really think that registration will keep criminals from breaking the law you are sadly mistaken. Whats breaking one more law to them?

Your right, they aren't taking our guns .... yet. But if registration is put in place, its only a matter of time.
exactly. I've got 5 words for whoever wants to take my guns - give it your best shot.
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exactly. I've got 5 words for whoever wants to take my guns - give it your best shot.
Could always slim it down to three words ..... Chest or Face







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Bad timing Hoss.
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Most of you have the right attitude. Yes you need to keep you weapons, this is the only reason your still free, or at least have the illusion of freedom. To those who say, "they will never get mine" Really? you need to think about that long and hard. I know a few folks in Louisiana that said the same. But when the U.S. military was called in under martial law, and they went house to house taking them, no one pulled a Charleston Heston. You really need to do a few things first. One you need to think long and hard about dieing for what you believe in. Me personally, I'm assuming I will die when they come to "Unconstitutionally" take my weapons by force. But I will follow the Constitutions laws. This means I have the right to use my weapons against foreign and domestic enemy's of the people.

If they come to take my weapon by force, they are breaking the 2nd, 4th, and 14th amendments. If they come and bring the U.S. military, it is because Bush Brain over turned the The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.... Now why would he do that?

Why would the Obama want to let the 30+million illegals stay here and give them a pardon, during a full blown ression/depression? Why would he take our hard earned money and give it to some of the wealthy financial institutions? There is a lot of things every one need to look up for them selves. Like why would all of these presidential orders get passed? What does all these orders together add up to? Here is a list to get you started.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051
specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310
grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049
assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921
allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...
National Security Act of 1947
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1950 Defense Production Act
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Act of August 29, 1916
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International Emergency Economic Powers Act
enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.


If you think these are bad.... Look up who is in control, if the Prez. declares a national emergency, and puts us under martial law.


These things need to be reversed. Wright your congressman. http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cg...e=ctc&state=tx

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Interesting. Lot to hit Snopes with right there...
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Interesting. Lot to hit Snopes with right there...
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Bad timing Hoss.
I didn't sell mine. I've been fine tuning them.
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This brings up a good point: everybody says "yeah they'll get the bullets first...," including me. But at what point do you really make the decision to pull that trigger and officially become a marked man? If the government showed up at your door today would you really do it, give up everything you know and be a killer and a fugitive for the rest of your life, or would you hand them over and hang onto the life you know at least for a little while longer?

I think everybody has this situation in their mind like it's the civil war, where the enemy government army is advancing in uniform and the whole family and the neighbors are holed up in the house with the rifles sticking out of the windows, but I have a feeling it won't happen like that. I think it will definitely happen by degrees, and everyone will have that decision to make: At what point do I make that call that I can't turn back from?
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This brings up a good point: everybody says "yeah they'll get the bullets first...," including me. But at what point do you really make the decision to pull that trigger and officially become a marked man? If the government showed up at your door today would you really do it, give up everything you know and be a killer and a fugitive for the rest of your life, or would you hand them over and hang onto the life you know at least for a little while longer?

I think everybody has this situation in their mind like it's the civil war, where the enemy government army is advancing in uniform and the whole family and the neighbors are holed up in the house with the rifles sticking out of the windows, but I have a feeling it won't happen like that. I think it will definitely happen by degrees, and everyone will have that decision to make: At what point do I make that call that I can't turn back from?

Exactly!

False Bravado is all any of us have. No matter how loudly we proclaim that they will only be taken from our "cold, dead hands" we know deep down that if that boot ever takes our doors from it's hinges we'll cower in the corner like the spineless little sycophants we have become...
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Exactly!

False Bravado is all any of us have. No matter how loudly we proclaim that they will only be taken from our "cold, dead hands" we know deep down that if that boot ever takes our doors from it's hinges we'll cower in the corner like the spineless little sycophants we have become...
I doubt it will even be a boot, I expect a knock followed by a polite inquiry as to why they got a tip that I have unregistered weapons. Do I: a) hand them over, b) go to jail, or c) start killing government agents?
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I doubt it will even be a boot, I expect a knock followed by a polite inquiry as to why they got a tip that I have unregistered weapons. Do I: a) hand them over, b) go to jail, or c) start killing government agents?
D. Plead the fif!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I plead da fif...fif...fiiiiiiiiif.

However on a more serious note i will deny deny deny and mine will be very well hidden yet accessible (if possible maybe just well hidden).

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D. Plead the fif!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I plead da fif...fif...fiiiiiiiiif.

However on a more serious note i will deny deny deny and mine will be very well hidden yet accessible (if possible maybe just well hidden).

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Then you get charges for obstruction filed on you as well.

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It would be one thing if the bastards were giving us back all the hard earned money that every gun owner has spent on them, but to want to confiscate them and leave us high and dry, that's just flat out theft. Wait.. why am i surprised at this thought? this is the fucking government we're talking about here.

Regardless... knock knock... "We're here for your guns" "sorry man.. Sold them a few months ago to pay my mortgage. you're too late. I can't remember the guy's name that i sold them too either. Sorry."

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Surely I'm not the only one that saw Obama's speech today? He was in Mexico City with Felipe Calderon, and declared his intention to move forward with an assault weapons ban, and restated every weird new myth about gun violence in Mexico that's been propogated lately. What a fucking liar.

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WEATHERFORD - A Weatherford man pleaded guilty to stealing a purse from a Parker County church while dressed in drag, and it's not the first time he's been in trouble with the law.

Robert Thurman Mills, 44, waived a jury trial and pleaded guilty to debit card abuse Monday, according to law enforcement.

He was arrested on August 17 last year after sneaking into a Weatherford church and allegedly stealing a purse. Police say he used a debit card from that purse at a shop directly across the street.

The assistant manager of the store remembers Mills because he was 6 feet 2 inches tall, and wearing makeup, feminine clothes, and carrying a purse.

According to the Parker County Sheriff's office, Mills has been arrested at least five other times in the past two years on charges ranging from theft of service to forgery.

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