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California's new enemy...TV's

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Economy booster: California looking to ban plasma TVs
posted at 2:49 pm on March 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

California has a rapidly-expanding budget shortfall, unemployment going above 10% for the first time since the early 1980s, and perhaps the worst business climate in the nation, excepting Michigan. How does the state plan to boost the economy, create jobs, and build consumer confidence? They want to ban plasma TVs because they’re not green enough:

In their continuing quest to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, state regulators have uncovered a new villain in the war on global warming : your big screen TV

Couch potatoes, beware.

The California Energy Commission is considering a proposal that would ban California retailers from selling all but the most energy-efficient televisions. Critics say the news standards could take 25 percent of televisions off the market — most of them 40 inches or larger.

“The larger the television, the more at risk it is of being banned unnecessarily in California,” said Douglas Johnson, senior director of technology police for the Consumer Electronics Association.

Association officials say the standards are not only unnecessary – because the federal government already regulates energy efficiency through the voluntary Energy Star program — but also ill-timed. The last thing our economy needs now is products taken off the market, they say.

The state energy commission denies it wants to ban any kind of television sets. They claim that they just want to limit the market only to those models that provide better energy efficiency in order to save costs and cut down on emissions. The Orange County Register notes that the annual savings in energy costs between comparable plasma and LCD models amounts to a grand total of $30 per year.

Buried farther in their FAQ on this action, though, readers can find out what their intent really is, emphasis mine:

Who is supporting these proposals?

The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), the LCD Manufacturers Association, television component manufacturers such as 3M and Agoura; television manufacturer Vizio, and all three major California electric utility companies (Pacific Gas & Electric, San Diego Gas & Electric, and Southern California Edison) endorse the proposed regulations. Many well-known retailers including Wal*Mart, Sears, Costco, Sam’s Club, and Frys have all agreed to emphasize selling energy efficient TVs. Additionally, a recent survey showed California households overwhelmingly (89%) want their next television to be more energy efficient.

In other words, it’s a protection racket for LCD manufacturers. They want the state to intervene in the market, as plasma currently undercuts the price for LCDs. Eventually, LCDs will win this format war anyway, as plasmas have more propensity for burn-in and don’t last as long as LCDs. However, consumers should make that decision, not the state.

OC Register reporter Brian Joseph notes that the commission denies that they’re trying to limit the size of televisions in general, but …

Gottlieb insisted that the regulations wouldn’t eliminate big screens from California stores. But the commission’s own draft report says TV energy use is “proportional to the screen size.” And there’s no doubt the regulations will limit energy use.

So if you’re in the market for big screen TV, now might be the time to buy. The regulations are expected to be approved this summer.

And what will happen when the regulations go into effect? California consumers will buy their TVs from on-line retailers out of state, which will force electronics retailers to close, jobs to disappear, and tax revenues to drop. The economy will continue to decline, budgets will continue to show shortfalls, and the California legislature will continue to press for more tax increases. In other words, it will be business as usual for the increasingly anti-business Golden State.
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I'm all for it. The sooner that California collapses into a state of chaos the better off the rest of us will be.
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I never thought I'd see the day where tv's were going to be banned! LOL

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I can't believe there's not a mass exodus out of that state...

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I can't believe there's not a mass exodus out of that state...
There is but it is not enough to offset illegal immigration and the birthrate. It needs to increase.
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There is but it is not enough to offset illegal immigration and the birthrate. It needs to increase.
Who cares? When all the payers leave, the payees will cause the state to collapse.

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Who cares? When all the payers leave, the payees will cause the state to collapse.
I'm just saying that it needs to happen sooner. When the state government takes a dump and people can't get their "government services" you will see a shift away from all the bullshit progressive thinking.
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I'm just saying that it needs to happen sooner. When the state government takes a dump and people can't get their "government services" you will see a shift away from all the bullshit progressive thinking.
Oh I get that. I'm just saying that it doesn't matter what the state population is due to the actual number count. If illegals are coming in at a rate greater rather than those tax-payers are leaving, the system will collapse even though the population is increasing. Who's gonna pay the illegals? And not like the illegals are paying taxes (outside of sales taxes).

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I swear I would not miss anyone in that state if it fell into the ocean.

and LOL @ the irony of this. All of those Hollywood fucks would be out of a job with no TV's, yet their leftist agenda serves these types of groups. so funny.

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Brilliant! That wouldn't do shit except hurt businesses inside California. I'm sure people would just start ordering their TVs from internet based companies in other states. God damn they are smart.
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what a bunch of dumbfucks. If they thought about it, the energy is still there whether it's used or not. Now since it's already there, and i'm quite sure the utilities are taxed, wouldn't a less efficient TV make the shithole fuck state more money?

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I'm just saying that it needs to happen sooner. When the state government takes a dump and people can't get their "government services" you will see a shift away from all the bullshit progressive thinking.
I'm out here for work, and I can tell you that the state government has taken a shit, and continues to take a shit. Whether they'll turn away from spending on illegals remains to be seen.
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I'm all for it. The sooner that California collapses into a state of chaos the better off the rest of us will be.
Please elaborate ...how a "collapse" of California will help out the rest of the USA in ANY way?

It's the largest state economy in the USA, even bigger than Texas. So if it collapses, it's just another black hole the Federal Government will have to throw money into....money we don't have.
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fucking cali...... unfortunately, their liberal disease is spreading to the rest of the country.

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Please elaborate ...how a "collapse" of California will help out the rest of the USA in ANY way?

It's the largest state economy in the USA, even bigger than Texas. So if it collapses, it's just another black hole the Federal Government will have to throw money into....money we don't have.
Are you suggesting that our tax payer dollars aren't already being thrown into that sinkhole? If they have the largest state economy, how come they are broke and begging for money?

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fucking cali...... unfortunately, their liberal disease is spreading to the rest of the country.
Well guess what? Reports have shown theres been a large migration of Cali people to the south.

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Please elaborate ...how a "collapse" of California will help out the rest of the USA in ANY way?

It's the largest state economy in the USA, even bigger than Texas. So if it collapses, it's just another black hole the Federal Government will have to throw money into....money we don't have.
I think it would show a massive failure in the liberal agenda and a lot of what Obama is trying to do to ruin this country would be walled off. Would it hurt the country? In the short term. But you would see a massive clean up orchestrated to right the ship.

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Please elaborate ...how a "collapse" of California will help out the rest of the USA in ANY way?

It's the largest state economy in the USA, even bigger than Texas. So if it collapses, it's just another black hole the Federal Government will have to throw money into....money we don't have.
It would illustrate what happens when you let leftist ideaology, rather than sound economic ideas, dictate what your state government should do.

I agree, they would go crying to the federal government to save them, it would be a mess. I'd get a big kick out of it too.

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