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Wounded? Soldier? Uncle Obama says tough...

shit. Go to private insurance carriers for your care, as the gov't no longer gives a damn if you got shot in the line of duty...

The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment


WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.


"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."


The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"


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The man clearly does not give a rat's ass about our service members, past, present and future.
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With as many folks as Obama is pissing off I sure as hell wouldn't want to be on his Secret Service Detail.




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WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.

"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."

The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"

Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."

Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.

"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.

"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.

SOURCE The American Legion
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So it's all about the money ($540m)? What a scumbag, especially after all the money they're spending on BULLSHIT! 9000 "earmarks", and he can't find $540m for the folks that really deserve it? Bail out any worthless piece of trash because they can't pay for a house they have no business in, but let's just piss on our Vets? It makes me sick to my stomach...

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So it's all about the money ($540m)? What a scumbag, especially after all the money they're spending on BULLSHIT! 9000 "earmarks", and he can't find $540m for the folks that really deserve it? Bail out any worthless piece of trash because they can't pay for a house they have no business in, but let's just piss on our Vets? It makes me sick to my stomach...
Earmarks are not the enemy. Earmarks add transparency to the budget. The funds are allocated and congress earmarks it to designate where the money will go. If they don't earmark it the money will still be spent. We the people will just not know where. Earmarks are not the problem. I do agree we have money for every social program under the sun but cannot fund this. It is sickning. What private insurance are they expecting to pay? I am active duty and have no private insurance. I have Tricare which is provided. So I guess if I get shot on my next deployment I am up shit creek?

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However, if you're an illegal in the US you get free health care.

Obama done pissed off the AL. The AL had TRIED to give Obama a chance, but he has pissed them off. Although the AL does not have a MASSIVE audience, it has millions of members that do vote and a lot of them are from the vietnam/korea era who also need VA assistance.

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Earmarks are not the enemy. Earmarks add transparency to the budget. The funds are allocated and congress earmarks it to designate where the money will go. If they don't earmark it the money will still be spent. We the people will just not know where. Earmarks are not the problem. I do agree we have money for every social program under the sun but cannot fund this. It is sickning. What private insurance are they expecting to pay? I am active duty and have no private insurance. I have Tricare which is provided. So I guess if I get shot on my next deployment I am up shit creek?
My point is with all the "earmarks", why not have one for $540m to fix this? Hell, they about covered every rediculous thing they could think of...

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My point is with all the "earmarks", why not have one for $540m to fix this? Hell, they about covered every rediculous thing they could think of...
Agreed.

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With as many folks as Obama is pissing off I sure as hell wouldn't want to be on his Secret Service Detail.




I'd bet money the Secret Service draws straws to see who's going to be on Obama's Detail. I'd also go double or nothing the guys you see on Obama's Detail are the same ones that drew the short straws.
No shit. The list keeps mounting, people in his own party are turning and we're not even 2 months in. He even has a look about him like he doesn't want to do this anymore.

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Guess I need to renew my membership with the American Legion...

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proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries.
Is he dumb enough to think that private insurance will keep Veterans on their books if they're injured and require care? Does he think they'll just eat the cost?

Oh wait, I know how he's going to do it. This makes perfect sense as a Socialist.

Insurance will no longer be part of the private sector. He'll nationalize it and then dictate who, how and what they cover. They can dictate how much something is worth and we'll end up with two classes of health care, those on federal insurance and those that can pay cash.
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Guess I need to renew my membership with the American Legion...
About the easiest thing you can do. The money and membership count helps them throw their weight around.

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I read this as soon as it was posted this morning. Didn't comment as I really didn't know what to say. I've stirred on it a little and still am speechless.
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What a fucking joke.

Our government needs our help, they have an addiction. Our government is addicted to our money. Since they always have our best interest at heart it's time we return the favor. We need to have an intervention, for the governments own good of course. It's just irresponsible for us to let people with a known money addiction continue to handle our money. Lets have an intervention now so we can help these sick individuals.
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Let me see if I understand this. I had a head injury so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Illegal immigrants get free health care
2. Private health care becomes free for everyone because "it's a right all Americans have"
3. Vets have to go pay for their own health care because it's too expensive?
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Look at it like this: he figured out the quickest way to reduce troops in Iraq! This kind of BULLSHIT should send our troops running for the hills! It should knock the shit out of "re-ups" for damn sure.

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Look at it like this: he figured out the quickest way to reduce troops in Iraq! This kind of BULLSHIT should send our troops running for the hills! It should knock the shit out of "re-ups" for damn sure.
That and the fact that a lot of the re-enlistment bonuses are going away this year and early part of next year.

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That and the fact that a lot of the re-enlistment bonuses are going away this year and early part of next year.
Thats mostly because the job market sucks so much ass. Recruiting goals are being exceeded and no one can get out of the service in this shitty ecomomy. The promise of life long health care is one of the biggest reasons I have stayed in for 12 years, and plan on doing 20, WTF is happening to this Nation????
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Wonder what the obama lovers think about all this stuff. I mean, they were on here hating Bush for years, but nothing for Obama.

C'mon Obama lovers, show some love. Or...ya regretting that decision?

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Wonder what the obama lovers think about all this stuff. I mean, they were on here hating Bush for years, but nothing for Obama.

C'mon Obama lovers, show some love. Or...ya regretting that decision?
LOL Last time I checked, the President (Bush or Obama) never had a vote in Congress to pass bills into laws. Not that I agree with the policy direction coming from the excecutive office, but you had better check your local representation in the House and Senate first. That's where the real action happens, but the Executive office is what garners all the attention. Notice how nothing has been reported on how people voted on a bill. If you are pissed about it, don't post on here bashing our President, write letters and make calls to your congressmen.

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If you are pissed about it, don't post on here bashing our President, write letters and make calls to your congressmen.

The whole thing is his idea dipshit. We can bash him all we want. It doesn't matter who does or doesn't vote on it. The fuckhead shouldn't be proposing it in the first place.

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This can't possibly go through. Obama is truly a dumbass. Does he not realize how many vets live among him? How many of them were snipers? LOL this is like POTUSide.
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LOL Last time I checked, the President (Bush or Obama) never had a vote in Congress to pass bills into laws. Not that I agree with the policy direction coming from the excecutive office, but you had better check your local representation in the House and Senate first. That's where the real action happens, but the Executive office is what garners all the attention. Notice how nothing has been reported on how people voted on a bill. If you are pissed about it, don't post on here bashing our President, write letters and make calls to your congressmen.

Rant off.
Just the fact that he's even entertaining the idea is crap. I'd tell him he's a fucking jerk-off to his face. Doesn't matter, he wouldn't listen to a "commoner" like the rest of Congress.
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Just the fact that he's even entertaining the idea is crap. I'd tell him he's a fucking jerk-off to his face. Doesn't matter, he wouldn't listen to a "commoner" like the rest of Congress.
Amen, unfortunately.

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LOL Last time I checked, the President (Bush or Obama) never had a vote in Congress to pass bills into laws. Not that I agree with the policy direction coming from the excecutive office, but you had better check your local representation in the House and Senate first. That's where the real action happens, but the Executive office is what garners all the attention. Notice how nothing has been reported on how people voted on a bill. If you are pissed about it, don't post on here bashing our President, write letters and make calls to your congressmen.

Rant off.
Yeah, I'm doing nothing. Just because I'm posting on here does NOT fucking mean I am not taking action in my own little way. A person does not have to rally all fucking day in Austin with a sign and write letters all night. Support of organizations that have similar views, more pull and better direction is more efficient in my point of view. On occasion an email maybe sent, but overall I think that does absolutely nothing.

Either way, as a person who votes - I can bitch as much as I want about the person I did not vote for doing fucked up things. Hell, I'll bitch about the person I voted for on occasion.

The point of THIS particular bitch session is not that local reps did anything, it's that the POTUS did it. When the AL Commander manages to make the news, you know he's spun up. The AL never makes the news.

I feel your points are valid, although you've made assumptions. Also, you seem to be deflecting.

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LOL Last time I checked, the President (Bush or Obama) never had a vote in Congress to pass bills into laws. Not that I agree with the policy direction coming from the excecutive office, but you had better check your local representation in the House and Senate first. That's where the real action happens, but the Executive office is what garners all the attention. Notice how nothing has been reported on how people voted on a bill. If you are pissed about it, don't post on here bashing our President, write letters and make calls to your congressmen.

Rant off.
What about a "veto"...the ultimate power?

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wow and to think i just volunteered last week to go to Afghan.... that doesnt make me feel like he is grateful for living in a free country that he has never fought for. or as far as i know anyone in in family has fought for.(correct me if im wrong) i know some people that would like to be on his SS for one day maybe the one driving the limo????
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The good guys won.... fuck you Obama...

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Obama Drops Controversial Health Care Plan for Wounded Veterans

President Obama, after an uproar by veterans groups, has scrapped a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service.

"In considering the third-party billing issue, the administration was seeking to maximize the resources available for veterans," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday in a written statement. "However, the president listened to concerns raised by the [veteran service organizations] that this might, under certain circumstances, affect veterans' and their families' ability to access health care.

"Therefore, the president has instructed that its consideration be dropped," Gibbs said.

Obama met with 11 veterans service organizations on Monday and explained his plan to increase funding for Veterans Affairs by $25 billion over five years and bring more than 500,000 eligible veterans of modest income into the VA health care system by 2013.

But the American Legion, the nation's largest veterans group, said the president's plan would have increased premiums, made insurance unaffordable for veterans and imposed a massive hardship on military families. It could have also prevented small businesses from hiring veterans who have large health care needs, the group said.

The American Legion applauded Obama's decision to drop the plan on Wednesday.

"We are glad that President Obama listened to the strong objections raised by The American Legion and veterans everywhere about this unfair plan," Cmdr. David K. Rehbein of the American Legion said. "We thank the administration for its proposed increase in the VA budget and we are always available to assist by providing guidance to ensure a veterans health are system that is worthy of the heroes that use it."

The American Legion wants the existing system to remain in place. Service-related injuries currently are treated and paid for by the government. The American Legion has proposed that Medicare reimburse the VA for the treatment of veterans.
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President Obama, after an uproar by veterans groups"
Woot! That is why it makes more sense to support those that have similar ideas.

Either way, it speaks volumes that he talked about do it. He's probably only backing down due to votes. Hell, the normal citizen probably does not agree with such treatment of veterans.

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What about a "veto"...the ultimate power?
veto is not the ultimate power, if he does so, congress can still go back and revote on the issue and get it passed, once the supreme court rules on it, it becomes a dead issue. Well, until somebody else finds good enough reason to have it brought up before the courts again.

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I just got off the phone with my senator. He said that there is so much opposiition to this that it'd never pass
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