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Knowing what you know now.....

Would you have voted for Ron Paul?


I voted for McCain in the Primaries and General Election but let's face it. They guy is a dipshit. The whole "what would McCain" do is pointless because, IMHO, he would have done mostly the same economic shit that Obama is doing now.

But we ALL know that Ron Paul would have done something completely different. Not only that, but there would be absolutely NO talk of touching your guns. Frankly, the only policy I disagreed with him on was Iraq. I think he could have been persuaded to do exactly what Obama is doing now. Pull out by 2011.

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not no but hell no .

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I like what he has to say economically but he's to "if what you do doesn't affect anyone else, it's ok w/ me" on drugs.... but he has qualities that I like.
I personally would like to have seen Thompson do better.





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I ain't that smart and even I knew then what I know now, and I did vote for Ron Paul. I campaigned for Ron Paul. And donated money to Ron Paul. First time I've ever donated money to a campaign. Seemed like now was a good time to do it.

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I think McCain would drag ass and very little would get done , Obama is in too much of a hurry and will probably get burned out quickly . Paul is right on a lot of things but I doubt he could get the democrats to go along with him on very much if any . Remember , the president is not the only person calling the shots .
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Not sure R Paul ever really had enough backing to get the deal done... it's gonna' take a BUNCH of very unhappy people (which we have now) to ever get somebody other than the "chosen" Democratic or republican candidate elected.

McCain was a horrible choice to put up for the Republicans this time, he couldn't have defeated Hillary and damn sure couldn't get by Obama. Whom ever was/is at the helm of the Republican Party strategic planning should have their ass kicked.

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Not sure R Paul ever really had enough backing to get the deal done... it's gonna' take a BUNCH of very unhappy people (which we have now) to ever get somebody other than the "chosen" Democratic or republican candidate elected.

McCain was a horrible choice to put up for the Republicans this time, he couldn't have defeated Hillary and damn sure couldn't get by Obama. Whom ever was/is at the helm of the Republican Party strategic planning should have their ass kicked.

We're damn sure screwed now, for several years, if not decades to come.

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Yeah, I'm really big on Ron Paul, but he never had a chance. My current roommate is a college grad, Republican, will inherit his family business, and until I started showing him some Ron Paul vids he had never heard of him . :hs:

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I like what he has to say economically but he's to "if what you do doesn't affect anyone else, it's ok w/ me" on drugs
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No, I just think that illicit drugs should stay that way. I say him on TV or interwebs saying if a pot head isn't bothering him he doesn't care what they do. I disagree w/ this.





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if we had the vote tomorrow ron paul would walk everyone else.

he was the only man for the job.he puts america and americans first.no stupid shit like the rest.

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No, I just think that illicit drugs should stay that way. I say him on TV or interwebs saying if a pot head isn't bothering him he doesn't care what they do. I disagree w/ this.
"This is the Mexican cartels and we approve of this message."

If pot were legal there would be few smoking then that are not smoking now. And it ain't like the war on drugs is anything but a waste of money.

In my opinion there is only one way to stifle the Mexican cartels moving in. Remove their supply of customers.

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No, I just think that illicit drugs should stay that way. I say him on TV or interwebs saying if a pot head isn't bothering him he doesn't care what they do. I disagree w/ this.
How? That's a basic tenant of true conservatism; the government should have no say in what you do/put in your body as long as you're not disrupting anyone else's way of life.

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In my opinion there is only one way to stifle the Mexican cartels moving in. Remove their supply of customers.
That means legalizing cocaine and heroin, as well as marijuana. Is America ready for this?

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As tangible as Ron Pauls idea's are, they are unrealistic in the real world.
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That means legalizing cocaine and heroin, as well as marijuana. Is America ready for this?
No. I wasn't clear but I meant just pot customers. Let's not get stupid with it. I know RP says go for the gusto cause he aims high and sometimes needs to be "trimmed", but by legalizing just pot you've removed their major cash flow. Then focus on curbing crack and meth. I don't how bad the heroin situation is. You should of seen it during and after Viet Nam.

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I like what he has to say economically but he's to "if what you do doesn't affect anyone else, it's ok w/ me" on drugs.... but he has qualities that I like.
I personally would like to have seen Thompson do better.
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As tangible as Ron Pauls idea's are, they are unrealistic in the real world.
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Do you think that a RP administration would currently be doing a better job of running and repairing the country?

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Couldn't have been any worse than the excuse for a campaign that McCain ran. I hold that blue-haired fucker largely responsible for the clusterfuck we're sitting in today.

Then again, had McCain won, we'd still be sitting in the same clusterfuck with the government making the same retarded moves over and over again.

So yes, I would have. Mainly because I would have voted for just about anyone that wasn't McCain or Obama.

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I worked for ron, so yes!

I dont know that he would ever be president, but I do believe he has opened up a lot of peoples eyes to what the republican party is suppose to be. Right now the republican party is dead in the water, the only thing the party has going for it is tax cuts, and one issue alone is not going to get you elected.

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Voted for him in the primaries and the election. Maybe some of his ideas are radically different than what is happening today, but I don't think anyone could argue he is not the most genuine and principled. If he could not get anything done it would still be better than doing the wrong thing.

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I'm not saying that to slap Ron Paul, but more the senate and house. Pelosi and Reid are running things, not Barry.

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lol...look at the McCain fan boys still denying Ron Paul would have been the right choice. He just didn't stand a chance because as much as he is a republican he is not what is today's republican. We don't need or want today's republican anymore.

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lol...look at the McCain fan boys still denying Ron Paul would have been the right choice. He just didn't stand a chance because as much as he is a republican he is not what is today's republican. We don't need or want today's republican anymore.

RP is no the conservative I want. The reasons are well documented and most with common sense see it.

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RP is no the conservative I want. The reasons are well documented and most with common sense see it.
we all know, you are with the rest of the nut job "new" republicans

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we all know, you are with the rest of the nut job "new" republicans
I am a conservative who has voted Democrat and Republican. You think you know stuff and you actually know very little.

I couldn't care less what label a decent conservative runs as, I just want a conservative who isn't a complete nut like RP and his supporters like you.

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we all know, you are with the rest of the nut job "new" republicans
You are way over your head. Please don't tell us what we "need", when you barely have a track record of taking care of yourself...

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Hell yes I would have.

And lol at all the Republicans that think McCain or ANY Republican would do something different than what Obama is doing right now.

It is the divisive, attacking, two-party system that drug our country into the mess we are in today. BOTH THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DID IT TOGETHER. If you think otherwise, then you are as crazy as you claim Ron Paul supporters to be. They had you arguing over abortion and gay marriage and when the core fundamentals of our economy were being sold out from underneath us. They BOTH allowed greed to overcome sanity in the markets. They did nothing to protect our country's assests.

Really, I don't give a shit about anyone's drug policy. If anyone were to pressure me into an answer, I'd say legalize the sale and use of it all and make public intoxication the crime. You know, just like alcohol. Anyone got a moral problem with that? (as if it matters when the stock market loses 10% in a day)
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The important issue is not "Would McCain have done the same thing?". He most likely would have done something that involved spending federal dollars. The thing is, he would have spent the money in different ways. That is the most important detail.
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Ron Paul's "movement" is the only situation to give the US Citizens any chance of getting our government and country back. You and I both know he recieved critical attention from the "handlers" of our country that knew it was vital to their success that they squash his message. Granted, by being honest and transparent he gave em plenty of ammo but, it was squash him before he could squash them. We're living proof that a politician cannot be honest and non-ruthless. It's used against him.../her.

Question is, would we be better off? We would have a lot more control of our own destiny. It's my firm belief that RP would slap the shit out of some motherfuckers holding guns to our heads. I think it's their belief also.

But...maybe we'll be OK with Obama et al, while the repubs start on their own long piss fight.

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Just because someone throws out some opinions that are agreeable makes a person qualified to be POTUS??? He runs the Texas 14th Congressional District where the largest town is Galvestion.

He hasn't been able to waive a magic wand in his district to take care of things after the huricane. What would make me believe he could handle the issues going on right now in the U.S. There is a 30 mile long trash pile in Chambers County that nobody seems to want to take ownership of in order to get it cleaned up to start.
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Just because someone throws out some opinions that are agreeable makes a person qualified to be POTUS??? He runs the Texas 14th Congressional District where the largest town is Galvestion.

He hasn't been able to waive a magic wand in his district to take care of things after the huricane. What would make me believe he could handle the issues going on right now in the U.S. There is a 30 mile long trash pile in Chambers County that nobody seems to want to take ownership of in order to get it cleaned up to start.
What do you think of Chicago?

How is that surging economy in Arizona?

Give me a break, Galveston just suffered a natural disaster not seen in a CENTURY this past September and you want to grade his entire performance on a trash pile? Wow, you're an idiot.

So you must think that Obama or McCain would have the "right" ideas for the future of this country? lol
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[QUOTE=46Tbird;5601194]What do you think of Chicago?

How is that surging economy in Arizona?

Give me a break, Galveston just suffered a natural disaster not seen in a CENTURY this past September and you want to grade his entire performance on a trash pile? Wow, you're an idiot.

So you must think that Obama or McCain would have the "right" ideas for the future of this country? lol[/QUOT

So you assume that I agree with either Obama or McCain because I don't necessarily agree with all that Ron Paul says.... I voted for McCain because I felt his views were more in line with mine although he was not the candiate I had hoped would be nominated.

I am not grading his entire performance on a trash pile...you just assumed that. He sure does talk a big game but I have yet to see it.

<---I live right next to his district and went thru that hell in Septemeber
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How? That's a basic tenant of true conservatism; the government should have no say in what you do/put in your body as long as you're not disrupting anyone else's way of life.
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Ron Paul is the closest thing we have to a secessionist politician. He knows the system is broken beyond repair. I believe he could be a stepping-stone to what needs to come next: Southern secession and a FREE South.
I have never read anything on him encouraging or promoting secession. I have read 2 of his books and frequent his site campaignforliberty.com . When people afix ideas to a person without merit I think it should be called so please link and article of him saying or promoting said ideas. People make him out to be a radical and all I see him propose is obeying the constitution.

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Just because someone throws out some opinions that are agreeable makes a person qualified to be POTUS??? He runs the Texas 14th Congressional District where the largest town is Galvestion.

He hasn't been able to waive a magic wand in his district to take care of things after the huricane. What would make me believe he could handle the issues going on right now in the U.S. There is a 30 mile long trash pile in Chambers County that nobody seems to want to take ownership of in order to get it cleaned up to start.
Even tho he keeps em simple, uncluttered, and to the point, obviously his opinions are not so agreeable.
You need to send your complaints to Governor Perry. I think Dr. Paul is rightfully more concerned with our free falling economy and preservation of our constitution than he is with a local trash pile.

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