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Where is the BILL and where are our 5 days?

Obama said he would post the bill in it's entirety for 5 days for the US public to review prior to him signing it- where is the bill Obama and where are our 5 days you promised?
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Obama said he would post the bill in it's entirety for 5 days for the US public to review prior to him signing it- where is the bill Obama and where are our 5 days you promised?
Well...after rushing around to get it passed by the senate so Comrade Pelosi and her "crew" could get to Italy, it has sat on Barry's desk until today. The entire time, it could have been put on line. The man is a straight up liar. He's already taken more "vacation" and "date" days in a month, than Dubya took in a year. He will be in Denver to sign that turd, and they will have a huge PR event for him. That's the reason they've waited for him to sign it, so they could set up the stage. Poor Barry is still campaigning, even though he won! He's going to "sell it" to the American people.

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He's already taken more "vacation" and "date" days in a month, than Dubya took in a year.
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Obama said he would post the bill in it's entirety for 5 days for the US public to review prior to him signing it- where is the bill Obama and where are our 5 days you promised?
He lied. You act as if you are surprised by this.

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Stimulating Work
by Andrea Coombes
Tuesday, February 17, 2009
provided by Market Watch


Credit for Workers
Those taxpayers eligible for the "make work pay" credit -- up to $400 for single workers and $800 for couples -- may want to assess their withholding before this credit starts showing up in their paychecks.
The credit, available in 2009 and 2010, was trimmed to $400 per worker per year, from a draft stimulus bill's $500 payout.
The credit begins to phase out for single filers with adjusted gross income of $75,000 and married-filing-joint filers with AGI of $150,000. The credit isn't available to taxpayers with AGI topping $95,000 for single filers and $190,000 for joint filers, according to CCH.
It's still uncertain exactly how the credit will be paid out. While some tax experts say employers will automatically adjust workers' paychecks, others say that's not so.
"There's supposed to be a choice between having it as a credit on your tax return or having it deducted from your payroll taxes," Luscombe said. "I would think the employee would have to make some input on that regard, rather than having the employer automatically start the deduction. Some people have suggested maybe a revised W-4 would have to be submitted [to] reflect the employee's choice."
That means workers will need to decide whether they want the money in their paycheck or as a tax refund later. Given the variability of individual's tax situations, some taxpayers could find the credit leads to a larger-than-expected refund come tax time in April 2010 -- or a bill for money owed (if, say, a couple's overall income picture means they're not eligible for a credit but a spouse received one anyway).
Meanwhile, some fixed-income people -- including those who receive Social Security, railroad retirement benefits and veterans' benefits -- will get a one-time $250 payment, a decrease from $300 in an earlier draft of the bill.


Please can anyone quess how this will really work? This was just a part of the post from Market Watch. Like all of the things that the new Pres. has promised, this excert from his bill looks like double talk also.
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The problems are as follows:

1. There has been very little, if any, emphasis by the Obama admin, Senate, or the media on "Buy American" and other types of support or pride for our country. Where is the pride in the country that elected you Mr. President!?

2. There has been very little explanation of the benefits of this bill or how it will affect the bottom line for our country, yet we are seeing the president herd people into rally's to try to garner support for it. (Most people will not ask why if they are just told to support it by someone of power and the president is exploiting this)

3. The Bama admin has been galavanting around like "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" at the taxpayers expense to promote a bill that so few people have seen or understand. No one seems to be asking how much it is costing to fly around and pay for rallies for this thing.

4. The majority of the media is guilty of covering and hiding the details of the biggest check ever written by our government. Where is the investigative journalism?

5. This is not the first bill he has signed without "giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ore-signing-b/ This is not the first time nor the last that our president has lied to the people he works for. It will not be the last because not very many people, including the media, will hold him accountable.

6. The media and many americans are not bringing up the fact that this president is a hypocrite for chastising corporate execs for their integrity on spending while knowing that he himself agreed to accept public campaign financing and reneged on his promise and raked in $750 million while exploiting a exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the Bama admin because many of his contributions are from questionable foreign or illegal sources. Again, Bama gets "The Pass".

In his defense, the president promised that he "will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days." Thus giving him an out because this bill could be considered by many to be an emergency. He could have gone ahead and followed through with his promise as a good faith gesture, emergency or not.
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You are so right on all counts. If his lips are moving you know he is lying.

Video:Obama Promises Help for States ABC News

Cities may have to wait longer for stimulus money
By PATRICK WALTERS, Associated Press Writer Patrick Walters, Associated Press Writer – Tue Feb 17, 3:43 am ET
PHILADELPHIA – Ever since Barack Obama was elected, Mayor Michael Nutter and his big-city counterparts nationwide have held out hope that a promised economic stimulus package would inject much-needed cash directly into their battered municipal budgets.
But most of the funding in the $787 billion package approved by Congress is being filtered through federal, state and county programs — not directly to cities. That leaves Nutter and other city leaders worried about how much they will get — and how long it will take after Obama puts his signature on the stimulus bill.
"The concern about that is when dollars go up into state Capitols and get kind of subsumed into the vortex of state politics," Nutter said in an interview with The Associated Press. "The dollars end up getting spread wide and thin."
Cities are destined to benefit once the money trickles down, but officials predict it will take longer for them to see funding for things like police officers, infrastructure improvements and health programs.
"We can't rely or plan on any specific amount we may be getting," said David Edwards, senior policy adviser to Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin. "We're just going to operate as if we aren't getting anything. We can't pencil in any money."

Here is another example of his lips moving and the bill not keeping his word.
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You really believed they were going to post up this shit for the American people to dicect?
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He lied. You act as if you are surprised by this.

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Im not in the slightest-- im trying to show those "PRO-OBAMA" "OBAMA IS OUR SAVIOUR" folks that he is the same as every other politician.
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You really believed they were going to post up this shit for the American people to dicect?
Not in the slighest- I laughed when I originally heard it. Im trying to show the PRO-BAMA's that he is a liar.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_...public_review/
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Just to add to post # 8 above, I just heard Greta Van Susteren mention that hasn't the president "ever heard of video conferencing?" There were still no figures given on exactly how much this is costing the taxpayers to fly the Bama admin around, protect them, and organize these rallies etc.
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Man this "stimulus" is going to be great i will get 13.00 extra in my check from june to december and in 2010 I will get 7.70 a week extra for the whole year.

Now that is stimulating.

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Man this "stimulus" is going to be great i will get 13.00 extra in my check from june to december and in 2010 I will get 7.70 a week extra for the whole year.

Now that is stimulating.
When Barry's energy policies make gas go back up to $4 a gallon, you're going to need every bit of that $13 a week...

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Democrat White House Chief of Staff speaking about the stimulus package:


"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do before".

– Rahm Emanuel


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Democrat White House Chief of Staff speaking about the stimulus package:


"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is itís an opportunity to do things you couldnít do before".

Ė Rahm Emanuel
...or, in other words, any time the going gets tough, Uncle Sam should make a "power grab", so they can make us rely on them even more.

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