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Best President EVER!?

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WASHINGTON – Just days after the nation honored the 200th anniversary of his birth, 65 historians ranked Abraham Lincoln as the nation's best president.
Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive by the end of 2008, according to a survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN.
Bush scored lowest in international relations, where he was ranked 41st, and in economic management, where he was ranked 40th. His highest ranking, 24th, was in the category of pursuing equal justice for all. He was ranked 25th in crisis leadership and vision and agenda setting.
In contrast, Lincoln was ranked in the top three in each of the 10 categories evaluated by participants.
In C-SPAN's only other ranking of presidents, in 2000, former President Bill Clinton jumped six spots from No. 21 to 15. Other recent presidents moved positions as well: Ronald Reagan advanced from No. 11 to 10, George H.W. Bush rose from No. 20 to 18 and Jimmy Carter fell from No. 22 to 25.
This movement illustrates that presidential reputations are influenced by present-day concerns, said survey adviser and participant Edna Medford.
"Today's concerns shape our views of the past, be it in the area of foreign policy, managing the economy or human rights," Medford said in a statement.
After Lincoln, the academics rated George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt and Harry Truman as the best leaders overall. The same five received top spots in the 2000 survey, although Washington and Franklin D. Roosevelt swapped spots this year.
Rated worst overall were James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison and Warren G. Harding.
The survey was conducted in December and January. Participants ranked each president on a scale of one, "not effective" to 10, "very effective," on a list of 10 leadership qualities including relations with Congress, public persuasion and moral authority.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/...ing_presidents

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That's some of the funniest bullshit I've ever seen.

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I'm surprised they didn't go ahead and put Hussein Obama in there.

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Lincoln the best ever? Habeus-corWAT?!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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HAHAHHAHA... How the hell is JIMMY CARTER ranked so high?


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Folks don't know shit about Obama, much less Warren G. Harding or James Buchanon. I'm not sure which is the silliest: the author of that poll, or the people that answered it.

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Lincoln the best ever? Habeus-corWAT?!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
No shit. Lincoln also didn't give 2 shits about freeing the slaves, only keeping the Union together.

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No shit. Lincoln also didn't give 2 shits about freeing the slaves, only keeping the Union together.
I laughed this morning when I heard his quotes from the 1858 debates, and how he didn't consider negro's equal to anyone, and didn't think we should even be living among each other. His ONLY objective was to keep the Union together, and he stated several times that he would do whatever was necessary for that to happen.

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Stupid ass poll taken by a bunch of stupid ass people .
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Presidents during our isolationist period scored higher than Bush on international dealings, that makes total sense.

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I'm surprised they didn't go ahead and put Hussein Obama in there.

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Presidents during our isolationist period scored higher than Bush on international dealings, that makes total sense.
...and the fact that Jimmy Carter is on that list at all, makes it totally bogus.

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Yet right now there are hundreds of thousands of dumbasses talking about that poll as if it were the gospel...
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Yet right now there are hundreds of thousands of dumbasses talking about that poll as if it were the gospel...
There's a reason Barry is making himself into a reincarnated Abe Lincoln...he's about as far from being a slave as Lincoln was.

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Presidents during our isolationist period scored higher than Bush on international dealings, that makes total sense.
they still had dealings with the UK, France, Mexico, etc... so yea that does make sense.

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Lincoln the best ever? Habeus-corWAT?!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
I am curious who you would put at the top, shoot give us your top 10

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I laughed this morning when I heard his quotes from the 1858 debates, and how he didn't consider negro's equal to anyone, and didn't think we should even be living among each other. His ONLY objective was to keep the Union together, and he stated several times that he would do whatever was necessary for that to happen.
You're skipping his second inaugural speech, where he pointed out his changing beliefs, and talked about equal rights between races. Also, his position in 1858's American political scene was a tenuous one, and he had to say whatever he could to get elected in 1860. I'm thinking that will be the real similarity between him and Obama: we won't see his real agenda for a while yet, just blind populism.

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they still had dealings with the UK, France, Mexico, etc... so yea that does make sense.
I forget, which ones of those we were occupying at the time? Which ones did we have a mutual hatred with?
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