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California State Employees on furlough

This story has so many trainwrecks that I don't know where to start...

http://www.kcra.com/politics/18655586/detail.html

Furloughs Begin For Calif. State Workers
California Faces Huge Budget Deficit

POSTED: 5:52 am PST February 6, 2009
UPDATED: 10:51 am PST February 6, 2009


SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- More than 200,000 state government employees were off the job Friday as California imposed its first-ever furloughs to save money during an unprecedented fiscal crisis.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered employees to take two unpaid days off a month, closing most state offices, including about 180 Department of Motor Vehicles offices, the Department of Public Health and the governor's Office of Emergency Services.

State parks and unemployment centers remained open.

The days off, expected to be the first and third Fridays of each month, will trim the average state worker's salary by 9.2 percent as Schwarzenegger and lawmakers try to solve the state's $42 billion budget shortfall through June 2010, when the furloughs end. The governor projects the furloughs will save the state $1.3 billion over that period.

Rhonda Wagner, a DMV employee, said mandated furloughs are hurting workers.

"We're here to do our job," said Wagner, who was among several Service Employees International Union members protesting outside of the Sacramento DMV office Broadway in Sacramento. "We're here to work for the citizens of California, provide them with the services that they greatly need. The reason that we're not at work today is because our governor and our (legislators) hasn't done their job."

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Shelia Byars, 47, a hearing officer at the DMV in downtown Los Angeles, said she would lose $200 in pay on Friday and about $400 a month. She was among about a dozen union members who protested under drizzling skies outside the office.

"It feels like we're being punished because we chose a career in state government," she said.

Byars said it didn't make sense to close DMV offices because they collect revenue for the state through licenses and registration fees.

The California furloughs began as the latest national unemployment numbers gave a fresh reminder of how quickly the recession is accelerating. The nation's employers shed 598,000 jobs in January, the highest number in 35 years. In all, 3.6 million Americans have lost their jobs since the start of the recession.

California's unemployment rate is 9.3 percent, a 15-year high.

Some state agencies considered to be revenue-generating or critical to the state were staying open, including fire stations, parks and employment centers where people can access job training services.

A handful of engineers for the state Department of Transportation also were working Friday, although they weren't being paid.

Mark Sheahan, a transportation surveyor in the department's Marysville office, said the road and infrastructure projects he works on would be set back as employees take off 16 hours a month.

"We lay asphalt and pour concrete and get people back to work," Sheahan said. "Why would you ever want to stop those things when we have a budget crisis?"

State agencies scrambled in the days before the furloughs took effect to avoid confusion for the public, such as people trying to register vehicles or obtain professional licenses.

Mark Rogers of Los Angeles said he arrived at the Department of Motor Vehicles office near the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum to pay $143 in court fines for infractions -- parking tickets and minor traffic offenses.

The 47-year-old security guard was expecting to get his license back, but the office doors were closed. Rogers said he disagreed with the decision to close state offices twice a month.

"People need jobs. People need licenses to get to their jobs," he said. "You can cut back on a lot of things, but DMVs, courthouses, jails, hospitals, these have got to stay open."

California is pursuing a strategy that also is being tried in a few other states to preserve cash as tax revenue plunges. Furloughs, pay cuts, reduced benefits or shorter work weeks for state government workers have been implemented or requested in Ohio, Maryland, Hawaii and elsewhere.

Schwarzenegger had hoped his order would apply to some 238,000 state employees, but each of the seven other constitutional officers have said they will not comply. Employees of the Legislature also are not under his authority.

Schwarzenegger's legal affairs secretary, Andrea Hoch, said the administration was prepared to sue the state controller if he did not reduce paychecks for more than 15,000 workers in the other constitutional offices, which include the attorney general, secretary of state and insurance commissioner.

A judge who affirmed Schwarzenegger's authority to order the furloughs said his ruling did not apply to constitutional officers because they were not a party to the lawsuit. The administration has maintained that employees of constitutional offices are covered by the furlough order.

Labor leaders said the furloughs could have been prevented. Jim Zamora, spokesman for SEIU, Local 1000, said the administration did not respond to the union's latest contract proposal, which he said included alternatives.

"More than a week ago, Local 1000 presented the governor's negotiators with a deal that would have prevented the closure of state offices, created an orderly, flexible and manageable furlough process, prevented chaos and saved the state hundreds of millions of dollars," Zamora said in a statement.

Lynelle Jolley, a spokeswoman for the Department of Personnel Administration, which is negotiating with the union, declined to respond.

Other employees questioned how much money the furloughs would save taxpayers.

Dan Gurule, a police officer at the state mental hospital in Norwalk, said the state would have to pay overtime at 24-hour facilities to those workers who backfill the shifts of people on furlough.

Five state mental hospitals and 33 adult prisons are required to provide constant care to patients and inmates.

"We still have to have a minimum staffing. That's going to be someone on overtime, being paid time-and-a-half," Gurule said.

But the furlough may not be all that bad for state workers.

Squaw Valley ski resort at Lake Tahoe was offering $30 lift tickets -- a $49 savings -- on furlough days to state employees who show a valid state identification card or recent pay stub. Boreal ski resort also has a promotion in which state employees can ski or snowboard every Friday for the rest of the season for $20.
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-06-2009, 01:06 PM
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It's time for the state of California to take a serious look at the entitlements and programs they fund and start trimming that shit up.

Mandate a balanced budget like Texas does, and you don't have this catastrophe.
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Shelia Byars, 47, a hearing officer at the DMV in downtown Los Angeles, said she would lose $200 in pay on Friday and about $400 a month. She was among about a dozen union members who protested under drizzling skies outside the office.
She makes 25 bucks an hour to work at the fucking DMV. That's half the problem right there.

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What blows my mind is every person I come across that has moved away from California swears how great it is. I love the look they give me when I ask them, " if California was so great why'd you ever leave."

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She makes 25 bucks an hour to work at the fucking DMV. That's half the problem right there.
Holy fuck! That's absurd.

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It feels like we're being punished because we chose a career in state government.
No shit, Sherlock. It's not as if what you're doing takes much, if any, skill.

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Holy fuck! That's absurd.



No shit, Sherlock. It's not as if what you're doing takes much, if any, skill.
And she's getting paid $25/hr to do that job that didn't require any training or real skills.

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And she's getting paid $25/hr to do that job that didn't require any training or real skills.
Since the cost of living is so ridicously high in Calif... what is 25/hr comparative in TX? 15-20/ hr? Still too much.
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And she's getting paid $25/hr to do that job that didn't require any training or real skills.
I'd pay a UAW worker $25/hr. before I paid a lazy ass DMV work $25/hr. That's just stupid.

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Since the cost of living is so ridicously high in Calif... what is 25/hr comparative in TX? 15-20/ hr? Still too much.
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Ludicrous minimum wage FTL!
Maybe there is an angle to this we haven't thought of, it could be that she is only making like $10/hr and just doesn't know how to calculate how much money she will be losing.

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Maybe there is an angle to this we haven't thought of, it could be that she is only making like $10/hr and just doesn't know how to calculate how much money she will be losing.
True... I mean it would be embarassing raising hell and complaing about losing 160 a month.
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The cost of living out here is outrageous, that's why they are paying $25/hour for a clerk. You cant buy shit on $7.85 an hour; they would have no employees at that wage.

This deal is all over the news, and the employees are not happy. And why should they be? The budget mess is being taken (literally) out of their paychecks.
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Hopefully this will knock some sense into the california people and knock some of the Liberal out of 'em.
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Hopefully this will knock some sense into the california people and knock some of the Liberal out of 'em.
Yep, liberalism is just fine until you have to start paying for it.

The definition of a new conservative? A liberal that's just been robbed LOL.....
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I love the look they give me when I ask them, " if California was so great why'd you ever leave."
I've been asking people from Mexico why they left if it was better for years.
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yep, liberalism is just fine until you have to start paying for it.

The definition of a new conservative? A liberal that's just been robbed lol.....
lol!!!
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I don't know how California is going to keep going the way that it is. Raising taxes on the rich, while giving entitlements to the poor. As the over taxed rich leave the state, the tax burden will become heavier on those that stay. Best thing that could come out of the situation is a tax payor revolt.
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I don't know how California is going to keep going the way that it is. Raising taxes on the rich, while giving entitlements to the poor. As the over taxed rich leave the state, the tax burden will become heavier on those that stay. Best thing that could come out of the situation is a tax payor revolt.
Hopefully that is exactly what happens. The Rich get so fed up with the crap, that they take their toys and go home.

I have no sympathy, they did this to themselves, by either voting for it, or not voting against it, or abstaining and not voting at all.
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And we have a president in office with the full backing of the people of California!

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