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First of things to come from closing Gitmo?

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Abdallah Ali al-Ajmi was transferred back to his home country of Kuwait after his release from Guantanamo in 2005. Last April he blew himself up in a homicide attack that killed 12 people in Mosul, Iraq.
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In the video, translated by the NEFA Foundation, a non-profit that tracks terror groups, al-Ajmi mentions Guantanamo Bay right away. For many jihadists, having served time at Guantanamo is seen as a badge of honor.
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Sixty-two detainees released from the U.S. Navy base prison in Cuba are believed to have rejoined the fight, said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell, citing data from December. That's up from 37 as of March 2008, Morrell said.
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Those happened under Bush's watch. Why did "W" let 66 terrorists go?
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Those happened under Bush's watch. Why did "W" let 66 terrorists go?
Pressure from the left. Good news is Obama has sent your trailer rent payment.
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Pressure from the left. Good news is Obama has sent your trailer rent payment.
...and pressure from other countries. Unlike Clinton, who just chose to ignore al qaeda and Bin Laden.

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The left will ignore that the releases were done because of their pressure and for no other reason and they will blame Bush. I have seen several "historians" comment on how we have never released prisoners of war before the war was over. It has always been assumed that they would return to the war and kill with a vengeance. Duh!

Hell, it happened in the movie Saving Private Ryan, so it's not like it is some surprise.

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Pressure from the left. Good news is Obama has sent your trailer rent payment.
I don't rent, and I have a real home, and I'm not an Obama supporter. The OP mentioned things that happened 4 years ago.
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I don't rent, and I have a real home, and I'm not an Obama supporter. The OP mentioned things that happened 4 years ago.
Did you see his answer though? Any thoughts about it?

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Did you see his answer though? Any thoughts about it?
If you're talking about the Fox link, it's standard media hype. They did state it was "unlikely Obama could shut down Gitmo any time soon". Whether slant to the left or the right, the media is always after shock value, since scared people turn on the news.

IMO if we had proper border security, 9/11 would have never happened and we wouldn't need Gitmo. Our open borders can be squarely blamed on Democrats AND Republicans.
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If you're talking about the Fox link, it's standard media hype. They did state it was "unlikely Obama could shut down Gitmo any time soon". Whether slant to the left or the right, the media is always after shock value, since scared people turn on the news.

IMO if we had proper border security, 9/11 would have never happened and we wouldn't need Gitmo. Our open borders can be squarely blamed on Democrats AND Republicans.
No, I wasn't. You asked why W released them and he answered because of pressure from the left. Do you think W would have released them without pressure from the hard core left, all the lawsuits, and such?

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No, I wasn't. You asked why W released them and he answered because of pressure from the left. Do you think W would have released them without pressure from the hard core left, all the lawsuits, and such?

OK. I see what your getting at. I wasn't aware that W had a habit of pandering to the left. Still had a Republican Congress then, so why would he coddle the left?
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OK. I see what your getting at. I wasn't aware that W had a habit of pandering to the left. Still had a Republican Congress then, so why would he coddle the left?
Actually, it was pressure from the Brits and other european leaders that did it. He was "pandering" to our allies...

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Former Guantanamo Prisoners, Leaders of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Threaten Western and Arab Countries.

These guys are ready to get back to business of attacking Israel and American interests.

With this philosophy. Why not just release all the incorrigibles in the SuperMax prisons and put them back in free society. Really what's the point anymore?


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Former Guantanamo Prisoners, Leaders of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Threaten Western and Arab Countries.

These guys are ready to get back to business of attacking Israel and American interests.

With this philosophy. Why not just release all the incorrigibles in the SuperMax prisons and put them back in free society. Really what's the point anymore?

I said this in another thread, and I'll say it again...If these "detainee's" had anything what so ever to do with terrorism against the U.S., they should be given a fair, speedy trial, and hung by the neck until they are dead. Make sure it's broadcasted world-wide, and that al jazeera gets a video of it.

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I said this in another thread, and I'll say it again...If these "detainee's" had anything what so ever to do with terrorism against the U.S., they should be given a fair, speedy trial, and hung by the neck until they are dead. Make sure it's broadcasted world-wide, and that al jazeera gets a video of it.
I pretty much agree with that. Combined with proper border security, it would virtually eliminate terrorist problems.
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I pretty much agree with that. Combined with proper border security, it would virtually eliminate terrorist problems.
The whole border security thing still pisses me off. Why nothing has been by anyone (regardless of political ilk), is beyond me.

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I said this in another thread, and I'll say it again...If these "detainee's" had anything what so ever to do with terrorism against the U.S., they should be given a fair, speedy trial, and hung by the neck until they are dead. Make sure it's broadcasted world-wide, and that al jazeera gets a video of it.
no, that would rile up the arabic world.

Better to have a public trial and a private execution, with maybe a video where the perp cannot be identified but what is happening is clear. Bury them with a slice of bacon in their mouth to get rid of that martyr/virgin thing.
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Why nothing has been by anyone (regardless of political ilk), is beyond me.
I've been wondering that since 1986, when Reagan granted amnesty to illegals, but was going to shut down the border. Hell, they threw it wide open!
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Bury them with a slice of bacon in their mouth to get rid of that martyr/virgin thing.
Pershing did it best, firing squad with bullets dipped in pigs blood. He always let one go, so they could run back to the mosque & tell all the others.
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IMO if we had proper border security, 9/11 would have never happened and we wouldn't need Gitmo. Our open borders can be squarely blamed on Democrats AND Republicans.
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It wasn't open borders persay. The Hijackers were here on Visas (expired though). But I do agree with tighter borders, and yes I am a Republican.
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It wasn't open borders persay. The Hijackers were here on Visas (expired though). But I do agree with tighter borders, and yes I am a Republican.
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no, that would rile up the arabic world.

Better to have a public trial and a private execution, with maybe a video where the perp cannot be identified but what is happening is clear. Bury them with a slice of bacon in their mouth to get rid of that martyr/virgin thing.
OK. I can live with that.

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