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Richardson withdraws bid to be commerce secretary
by NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler – 49 mins ago

WASHINGTON – New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Sunday announced that he was withdrawing his nomination to be President-elect Barack Obama's commerce secretary amid a grand jury investigation into how some of his political donors won a lucrative state contract.
Richardson's withdrawal was the first disruption of Obama's Cabinet process and the second "pay-to-play" investigation that has touched Obama's transition to the presidency. The president-elect has remained above the fray in both the case of arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and the New Mexico case.
A federal grand jury is investigating how a California company that contributed to Richardson's political activities won a New Mexico transportation contract worth more than $1 million. Richardson said in a statement issued by the Obama transition office that the investigation could take weeks or months but expressed confidence it will show he and his administration acted properly.
"I have concluded that the ongoing investigation also would have forced an untenable delay in the confirmation process," Richardson said. "Given the gravity of the economic situation the nation is facing, I could not in good conscience ask the president-elect and his administration to delay for one day the important work that needs to be done."
Richardson said he will remain as governor and told Obama, "I am eager to serve in the future in any way he deems useful."
The announcement came ahead of Obama's Monday meetings with congressional leaders on a massive economic recovery bill he wants lawmakers to pass quickly.
Obama said he has accepted Richardson's withdrawal, first reported by NBC News, "with deep regret."
"Governor Richardson is an outstanding public servant and would have brought to the job of Commerce Secretary and our economic team great insights accumulated through an extraordinary career in federal and state office," Obama said. "It is a measure of his willingness to put the nation first that he has removed himself as a candidate for the Cabinet to avoid any delay in filling this important economic post at this critical time. Although we must move quickly to fill the void left by Governor Richardson's decision, I look forward to his future service to our country and in my administration."
A person familiar with the proceedings has told The Associated Press that the grand jury is looking into possible "pay-to-play" dealings between CDR Financial Products and someone in a position to push the contract through with the state of New Mexico.
State documents show CDR was paid a total of $1.48 million in 2004 and 2005 for its work on a transportation program.
Richardson ran against Obama in the Democratic presidential primary, but withdrew after a poor showing in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary.
He is one of the most prominent Hispanics in the Democratic Party, having served in Congress and as President Clinton's ambassador to the United Nations and energy secretary. As governor, he has kept up an international profile with a specialty in dealing with rouge nations. Obama also considered him to be secretary of state.
CDR and its CEO, David Rubin, have contributed at least $110,000 to three political committees formed by Richardson, according to an AP review of campaign finance records.
The largest donation, $75,000, was made by CDR in June 2004 — a couple of months after the transportation financing arrangement won state approval — to a political committee that Richardson established before the Democratic National Convention that year.
In the Illinois case, Blagojevich is accused of trying to sell the Senate seat that Obama gave up to become president. Obama and two of his top aides have been interviewed by the U.S. attorney's office pursuing the case but have denied any knowledge of such a scheme and have not been accused by prosecutors of any wrongdoing.

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Who's surprised by this?

Better yet what are the leftist douchebags going to try and say to make it all go away?
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This kind of shit happens all the time on both sides . Why else would someone want to go into politics ???
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So a politician withdrawing rather than causing trouble is a bad thing?

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So a politician withdrawing rather than causing trouble is a bad thing?

No. The awarding of lucrative contracts to supporters is.

Somehow I'm not in the least surprised that you evidently missed that...
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Y'all don't act surprised about all this. We knew all along that shit like this was going to go down when he got into office. Its not a matter of if it is going to get bad or even if when it is going to get bad (Jan. 20 2009), it is a matter of how bad. How bad is this man going to fuck up? He has unlimited, unchecked power since the whole gov't is dem. What he wants he will get. Call me racist or whatever since I don't like the black man. I can assure you that if Alan Keys was running against some white guy that had the same ideals as Obama then I would be voting for Keys. It is not a matter of race as some people try to mold it, it is a matter of values and principles.
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This kind of shit happens all the time on both sides . Why else would someone want to go into politics ???
get that truth out of here

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No. The awarding of lucrative contracts to supporters is.

Somehow I'm not in the least surprised that you evidently missed that...
I didn't miss it asshole. Surprise *this*.

Somehow I'm not surprised you missed the "privileged" lucrative contracts being awarded during the last administration and causing controversy and distrust?

I fail to see how this is an Obama scandel.

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I didn't miss it asshole. Surprise *this*.

Somehow I'm not surprised you missed the "privileged" lucrative contracts being awarded during the last administration and causing controversy and distrust?

I fail to see how this is an Obama scandel.
It's not...yet. Birds of a feather, my brother. Birds of a feather...

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I didn't miss it asshole. Surprise *this*.

Somehow I'm not surprised you missed the "privileged" lucrative contracts being awarded during the last administration and causing controversy and distrust?

I fail to see how this is an Obama scandel.
Lmao @ you! And wth is *this*?

Care to show me where I missed the lucrative contracts awarded during the last administration? Don't recall that convo. When did that happen? Better yet, post links to the stories on those contracts. In that you and your ilk hate Bush as much as you do it shouldn't take you to long.

What's that? Can't find any? Oh, that's right. You can't be bothered with trying to find a link to back it up, can you?


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Lmao @ you! And wth is *this*?

Care to show me where I missed the lucrative contracts awarded during the last administration? Don't recall that convo. When did that happen? Better yet, post links to the stories on those contracts. In that you and your ilk hate Bush as much as you do it shouldn't take you to long.

What's that? Can't find any? Oh, that's right. You can't be bothered with trying to find a link to back it up, can you?


Get out your tinfoil hat, he's going to talk about KBR and Halliburton now. Nevermind the fact that there wasn't another company on the planet that could do what Halliburton did. I suppose we should have awarded contracts to rebuild Iraq to Starbucks.
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Which came first, the nomination to the post or the contract? I'm betting that this contract came under investigation after the nomination and that he withdrew as a form of damage control.

Which is the only reason it is not a full blown obama scandal at this point. Are you not seeing a pattern here? Are you not starting to see how he accomplished his meteoric rise to the position?
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Which came first, the nomination to the post or the contract? I'm betting that this contract came under investigation after the nomination and that he withdrew as a form of damage control.

Which is the only reason it is not a full blown obama scandal at this point. Are you not seeing a pattern here? Are you not starting to see how he accomplished his meteoric rise to the position?
That's precisely why all of Barry's rats are scurrying about D.C. right now. Their little governor buddy in Illinois, is about to drop a dime on all those bastards, and they are in "damage control" mode as we speak. There's a reason he's going about his business like nothing has happened, because as far as he's concerned, it's business as usual.

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That's precisely why all of Barry's rats are scurrying about D.C. right now. Their little governor buddy in Illinois, is about to drop a dime on all those bastards, and they are in "damage control" mode as we speak. There's a reason he's going about his business like nothing has happened, because as far as he's concerned, it's business as usual.
There have been so many closed door deals hammered out to accomplish this annointment that we will never know about it's not even funny, and it will no doubt be interesting as hell if he does drop a dime and others follow suit...


Now to filter through the myriad "yeah buts" we no doubt have coming at us...
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Get out your tinfoil hat, he's going to talk about KBR and Halliburton now.
Oh man I forgot about those.
You guys keep working at it. Move that mountain a little at a time. Before long you will have convinced someone that BUSH/CHENEY was just..."misunderstood", and really didn't destroy the republican party.


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Oh man I forgot about those.
You guys keep working at it. Move that mountain a little at a time. Before long you will have convinced someone that BUSH/CHENEY was just..."misunderstood", and really didn't destroy the republican party.


Notch, not to be left out in 4..3..2..

PS - Looks like Tom Craddick (another great republican ) hit the wall.

And... As expected... You have jack shit in continuation of the topic at hand!
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Oh man I forgot about those.
You guys keep working at it. Move that mountain a little at a time. Before long you will have convinced someone that BUSH/CHENEY was just..."misunderstood", and really didn't destroy the republican party.


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PS - Looks like Tom Craddick (another great republican ) hit the wall.
Two months ago you weren't even going to vote. Now you're just another Barry apologist...is that Kool-Aid grape or Cherry?

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Which came first, the nomination to the post or the contract? I'm betting that this contract came under investigation after the nomination and that he withdrew as a form of damage control.
So..you're saying that removing corruption from the White House is not good? Not surprised. We probably should have left Richardson and his questionable antics in "for the greater good" huh?

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Two months ago you weren't even going to vote. Now you're just another Barry apologist...is that Kool-Aid grape or Cherry?
Tecate or Tezon. Got proof of that "Barry apologist" business?

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Oh man I forgot about those.
You guys keep working at it. Move that mountain a little at a time. Before long you will have convinced someone that BUSH/CHENEY was just..."misunderstood", and really didn't destroy the republican party.


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PS - Looks like Tom Craddick (another great republican ) hit the wall.
I never said they didn't hurt the Republican party. I just said your bit about awarding contracts was horseshit.

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And... As expected... You have jack shit in continuation of the topic at hand!
Sorry, your "topic at hand" ain't goin nowhere.

Obama appoints Richardson to cabinet.
Richardson has a questionable past dealing found in vetting.
Appointment won't happen.
No scandel.
Next.

LMAO. You should leave it to the pros at Fox News.

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Tecate or Tezon. Got proof of that "Barry apologist" business?
A bit of tap-dancing about how Barry's guys aren't doing much wrong, since your "perception" is that Bush and Cheney are totally corrupt. Richardson is dirty, and we all know it. He wouldn't even think about pulling the plug unless he was cold-busted.

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simmer down now,everyone knows 99% of politicians are dirty and the goverment no longer works for the people.dont act suprised to hear shit like this.it is business as usual and until dirty politicians get delt with by the people,on a regular basis and scare the shit out of the rest of them,nothing will CHANGE.

we are being fucked by both sides,business as usual.

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A bit of tap-dancing about how Barry's guys aren't doing much wrong, since your "perception" is that Bush and Cheney are totally corrupt. Richardson is dirty, and we all know it. He wouldn't even think about pulling the plug unless he was cold-busted.
Nah, no dancing. Barry is Barry. Bush/Chaney are Bush/Cheney. Don't know about Barry..it's early and I don't believe everything I hear. We'll see. You know who I wanted to see as our leader. and that doesn't exactly lend itself to Barry's philosophies. But I am 100%"convinced" that Bush/Cheney are the most corrupt motherfucking slimes to ever occupy the White House and they should be prosecuted. In case there is a question about how I feel about American traitors, I hope I've made my "convictions" about Bush and Cheney clear enough...

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This thread went the way of most where blackie shows up, he gets owned and shows himself to be nothing but a hate filled idiot.

All that hate will burn you up dude, let it go.

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So..you're saying that removing corruption from the White House is not good? Not surprised. We probably should have left Richardson and his questionable antics in "for the greater good" huh?
Removing corruption from the White House, only to stuff someone in there that has done nothing but flirt with corruption?

You crazy fucking baby boomers!

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simmer down now,everyone knows 99% of politicians are dirty and the goverment no longer works for the people.dont act suprised to hear shit like this.it is business as usual and until dirty politicians get delt with by the people,on a regular basis and scare the shit out of the rest of them,nothing will CHANGE.

we are being fucked by both sides,business as usual.
Let me guess, RP is the 1% who is not and the only way this country would have been saved? LOL

Hell, even I know he would have been better than Obama, but he was way worse than every other Republican who ran and he sure isn't anything other than a life long politician.

<-- waits for the RP nuthuggers to try and argue he is not a politician after they have said all politicians are corrupt. LOL

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Paladin, how is this an Obama scand... oh wait, that's right. You're unashamedly biased and will use any excuse to slam the future President of America.

You should take off your Obama hate goggles and see this for what it really is. A Bill Richardson issue.
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Paladin, how is this an Obama scand... oh wait, that's right. You're unashamedly biased and will use any excuse to slam the future President of America.

You should take off your Obama hate goggles and see this for what it really is. A Bill Richardson issue.
I am shocked that you don't see a scandal this close to Obama as any big deal! Is it as direct as the Rezko indictment, or the Rev. Wright scandal, or the domestic terrorist scandal, or the Gov. who was trying to sell his seat? NO, but the stench is getting pretty bad around Obama from where I sit. Hell, if the other scandals, indictments, and other issues associated with Obama don't bother you why would another one, right?

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This thread went the way of most where blackie shows up, he gets owned and shows himself to be nothing but a hate filled idiot.

All that hate will burn you up dude, let it go.
Thanks for your concern Notch. I'm touched.

Yep..looks like I was clear enough.

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Thanks for your concern Notch. I'm touched.

Yep..looks like I was clear enough.

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Removing corruption from the White House, only to stuff someone in there that has done nothing but flirt with corruption?

You crazy fucking baby boomers!
I suspect dementia.

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I am shocked that you don't see a scandal this close to Obama as any big deal! Is it as direct as the Rezko indictment, or the Rev. Wright scandal, or the domestic terrorist scandal, or the Gov. who was trying to sell his seat? NO, but the stench is getting pretty bad around Obama from where I sit. Hell, if the other scandals, indictments, and other issues associated with Obama don't bother you why would another one, right?

He is gonna bring change! lol
Trying to tie this to Obama is your final grasp? You should get a new tactic for your Obama Hate Mission. Why do you hate Obama so much? I'm guessing its not because he's black, although you strike me as someone prone to racism. I'm guessing... oh, wait... you're biased & brainwashed to lean right, regardless of fact. Word up.
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Paladin, how is this an Obama scand... oh wait, that's right. You're unashamedly biased and will use any excuse to slam the future President of America.

You should take off your Obama hate goggles and see this for what it really is. A Bill Richardson issue.
And this coming from the guy who blames everything on bush... kinda funny really....
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Trying to tie this to Bush is your final grasp? You should get a new tactic for your Bush Hate Mission. Why do you hate Bush so much? I'm guessing... oh, wait... you're biased & brainwashed to lean left, regardless of fact. Word up.
Hmmmmm, with the simple changing of a few words, you just described yourself to a T.

It's hard to argue with someone who has the same level of belief in their side being right, isn't it?

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Hmmmmm, with the simple changing of a few words, you just described yourself to a T.

It's hard to argue with someone who has the same level of belief in their side being right, isn't it?
Think about that statement for a bit.

Say I blame Bush for everything, and you scream back that I'm wrong. So... if everything I said "describes myself to a T", doesn't that make Paladin (and anyone else screaming his rhetoric) wrong? And... wrap your head around this for a sec... maybe I'm using satirical instances with Paladin's "logic" to show the ridiculousness of his hypocrisy. OMG.
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Trying to tie this to Obama is your final grasp? You should get a new tactic for your Obama Hate Mission. Why do you hate Obama so much? I'm guessing its not because he's black, although you strike me as someone prone to racism. I'm guessing... oh, wait... you're biased & brainwashed to lean right, regardless of fact. Word up.
The guy hasn't even gotten into office and he is becoming the most scandal ridden president-elect in history. Wait until he gets into office and the scandals get larger.

Yeah, the guy who has voted straight ticket Democrat his whole life accuses the guy who has voted for a Democrat for President in 2 of the last 5 elections as biased and brainwashed. You crack me up dude.

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Think about that statement for a bit.

Say I blame Bush for everything, and you scream back that I'm wrong. So... if everything I said "describes myself to a T", doesn't that make Paladin (and anyone else screaming his rhetoric) wrong? And... wrap your head around this for a sec... maybe I'm using satirical instances with Paladin's "logic" to show the ridiculousness of his hypocrisy. OMG.
You want everyone to grasp your "logic" and yet you ignore others people arguments? Yeah, you are the enlightened, well informed, educated one, right? You silly liberal hypocrties all cry the same lame story.

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The guy hasn't even gotten into office and he is becoming the most scandal ridden president-elect in history. Wait until he gets into office and the scandals get larger.

Yeah, the guy who has voted straight ticket Democrat his whole life accuses the guy who has voted for a Democrat for President in 2 of the last 5 elections as biased and brainwashed. You crack me up dude.
None of the scandals involve him, so how... oh you!! You almost got me with that lie.

Dude, you can't just say whatever you want and pretend it to be true, then expect everyone to just assume it's true. You're a biased liar who tends to be a hypocrite. Your words are finer than a grain of salt.
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None of the scandals involve him, so how... oh you!! You almost got me with that lie.

Dude, you can't just say whatever you want and pretend it to be true, then expect everyone to just assume it's true. You're a biased liar who tends to be a hypocrite. Your words are finer than a grain of salt.
and my words are depleted uranium, straight out of the mouth of victory.


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None of the scandals involve him, so how... oh you!! You almost got me with that lie.

Dude, you can't just say whatever you want and pretend it to be true, then expect everyone to just assume it's true. You're a biased liar who tends to be a hypocrite. Your words are finer than a grain of salt.
You will never see the irony of you calling me those things. I will just make fun of you and stop trying to correct all of your lies, hypocrisy, and misstatements. You are too stupid to ever get it.

I am actually glad that people of your ilk find me troublesome.

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